Reconstruction talk:Proto-Indo-European/bʰrewh₁-

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Some comments and potential descendants

I should start with that, in my opinion, the root is a fossilized w-extension of *bʰerH- or ultimately of *bʰer-. If we do not accept this hypothesis, then the relation to *bʰréh₁wr̥ (well, spring) has no place here.

If we do, then we should add some lateral descendants, even if they do not descend directly form *bʰrewh₁-. In this category fall:

  • Latin: ferveō (to be hot)
  • Proto-Celtic: *berw- (to cook)

Second, the semantic association with heat and brewing is not the only possible w-extension from the basic form *bʰer(H)-. Semantic nuances related to swelling, breaking, swift motion, buzzing, color association (specifically brown), etc. are also possible. Pokorny, for example, lists 7 different aspects of *bher- (clearly not all of them equivalent to modern *bʰer(H)-). Descendants which belong to this category are:

I will leave more experienced members (@Victar, @Rua) to decide which of these forms have place in the official thread and which don't. Probably, reconstructing a second meaning besides to brew, boil is necessary. Bezimenen (talk) 14:18, 12 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

  1. ^ De Vaan, Michiel (2008) “ferveō”, in Etymological Dictionary of Latin and the other Italic Languages (Leiden Indo-European Etymological Dictionary Series; 7), Leiden, Boston: Brill, →ISBN, page 215
  2. ^ Matasović, Ranko (2009) “*berw-ā-, *berw-ī-”, in Etymological Dictionary of Proto-Celtic (Leiden Indo-European Etymological Dictionary Series; 9), Leiden: Brill, →ISBN, page 64
  3. ^ Rix, Helmut, editor (2001), “*bʰreu̯H- (II)”, in Lexikon der indogermanischen Verben (in German), 2nd edition, Wiesbaden: Dr. Ludwig Reichert Verlag, →ISBN, page 96
  4. ^ Trubachyov, Oleg, editor (1976), “*brujati”, in Этимологический словарь славянских языков (in Russian), numbers 3 (*bratrьcь – *cьrky), Moscow: Nauka, page 43
  5. ^ Derksen, Rick (2015) “brauti”, in Etymological Dictionary of the Baltic Inherited Lexicon (Leiden Indo-European Etymological Dictionary Series; 13), Leiden, Boston: Brill, →ISBN, page 99
  6. ^ Trubachyov, Oleg, editor (1976), “*brunьka, *brъnъka”, in Этимологический словарь славянских языков (in Russian), numbers 3 (*bratrьcь – *cьrky), Moscow: Nauka, page 47