Talk:๐จ๐ผ๐ฎ๐๐ฎ
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@Bhagadatta Thanks for creating the entry. Is there a reason why you didn't add {{syn|pra-mah|๐ง๐ผ๐ง๐๐จ}} and {{desc|omr|๐ฃ๐ณ๐ฉ}} + {{desc|mr|เคซเฅเคฒ}}, or did you just forget to do so? Kutchkutch (talk) 08:50, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Kutchkutch: At the time of my creating the page, I only had Turner's dictionary & the Prakrit's DSAL dictionary handy because all the other resources were bookmarked/downloaded on another device & I was a bit too lazy to go looking for those other resources on this one. So there was insufficient evidence for me to add the Sauraseni entry, although I don't at all doubt that the term existed in Sauraseni; I just couldn't source it then. And you're right about the second part, I did forget to add the synonym and Old and Modern Marathi descendants. The latter two are
ย Done now. What do you think about the Sauraseni entry? -- Bhagadatta(talk) 09:47, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Bhagadatta: At
{{R:inc:Pischel|125}}, while describing vocalic sandhi it says:- M. phullelฤ = phulla + elฤ
- @Bhagadatta: At
- So that's evidence that the Maharastri term exists.
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{{R:inc:Woolner|176}}, there's an Avanti Prakrit quote with ๐จ๐ผ๐ฎ๐๐ฎ (phulla):- "ฤvanti."] and Dฤkแนฃiแนฤtyฤ Extract No, 28.
- Vฤซraka and Candanaka (Mแนcch. Act VI)
- Vฤซrakaแธฅ
- ๐ ๐ญ๐ ๐ญ๐ ๐ ๐ญ๐ ๐๐ -๐๐ ๐ซ๐ธ๐ก-๐๐๐ค๐ก๐ -๐ซ๐๐๐ฎ-๐จ๐ผ๐ฎ๐๐ฎ-๐ช๐ค๐๐ค-๐ง๐๐ง๐ซ๐ผ๐ณ๐ธโ
- are re are jaa-jaamฤแนa-caแนdaแนaa-maแนgala-phulla-bhadda-ppamuhฤโ
- Unless ๐จ๐ผ๐ฎ๐๐ฎ (phulla) has another meaning, the term might exist in Avanti Prakrit. However, there seems to be no evidence of Sauraseni attestation (yet). Although creating Sauraseni Prakrit *๐จ๐ผ๐ฎ๐๐ฎ (*phulla) might be a solution, at Talk:๐ฆ๐ธ๐ซ we agreed:
- I don't think any of us are proficient enough in Prakrit to do anything approaching original research yet. Kutchkutch (talk) 10:58, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Kutchkutch: I agree. Now
prk-avtdoesn't have a single lemma yet and this could be its first lemma ever but the fact that it could have another meaning occured to me too. I'm not really comfortable with guessing the meaning, not in the case of a language which is as poorly documented as Avanti Prakrit. Our whole issue stems from the tendency of linguists to consider "Prakrit" as a language based on the Maharashtri variety and the other forms (viz. Ardhamagadhi, Magadhi, Sauraseni et al) as secondary, dialectal variants of it. -- Bhagadatta(talk) 11:47, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Kutchkutch: I agree. Now
- I don't think any of us are proficient enough in Prakrit to do anything approaching original research yet. Kutchkutch (talk) 10:58, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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