Talk:Corinthian

It's an adjective, meaning someone who plays sport with the highest possible principles, way exceeding normal sportsmanship. I'm not sure which is the chicken and which is the egg, but there's a link one way or the other with w:Corinthian F.C. - see the talk page there. --Dweller 12:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Senses I've found in glossaries are not quite so positive:

1. a sporting rake, a fast man; a licentious libertine (From , also Bibliomania also Websters 1913, used in Shakespeare.
2. A derogatory term for a boat owner who is grossly self indulgent and cheerfully ignores seamanlike ways. “Oops! Was I going too fast? Sorry! Send me the bill! Bye now!” “Bloody corinthian!”
3. A more neutral sailing term from Webster's 1913: "Of or pertaining to an amateur sailor or yachtsman; as, a corinthian race (one in which the contesting yachts must be manned by amateurs.)"
4. Two dictionaries have something like: (sports) wealthy sportsperson: a wealthy amateur sportsperson, especially somebody fond of yachting (humorous)

An early usage: Corinthian Tom and Jerry Hawthorn in Pierce Egan's Life in London (1821). I don't know which sense if any would connect to this usage and what the realtionship is to the football club. DCDuring TALK 00:06, 14 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

A religious work of 1807 may convey the source of the "rake" sense: Paul's Epistles:

• "He had probably also, if Paul's associate, become well acquainted with the Corinthian Church, where wealth and wisdom had early introduced so much corruption, desire of pre-eminence, a disputatious and factious spirit, and consequently most dishonorable divisions; and these unhappily continued and increased."

Reputedly corinth had some thousand harlots at the temple of Aphrodite. To "act the corinthian" meant to be a harlot, in Aristophanes. They also hosted the w:Isthmian games, one of the three or four major sporting events that occurred every four years (like the Olympics) in Greece. Plenty of ambiguity. The name would have provided cover for the minister and the family, while hinting at more. DCDuring TALK 00:43, 14 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

It's probably an exclusively British (or perhaps Commonwealth) usage, but I found plenty when I googled "Corinthian spirit" in uk sites. This was one of the clearest, being not just a usage, but offering a definition too. --Dweller 10:55, 15 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Corinthian spirit seems to warrant a wiktionary entry, where "Corinthian" alone does not often seem to carry the sense, though it might warrant a sense. google books finds book titles containing "Corinthian spirit". DCDuring TALK 12:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure if Corinthian as an adj is short for the fuller phrase, but as the fuller phrase definitely has strong currency, this seems a good decision! Thanks. --Dweller 15:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

As an example of current usage, see this article in a U.S.-based sailing magazine in which the implication seems pretty clearly to be a dedicated and well-invested, but distinctly non-professional, weeknight-and-weekend amature sailor, certainly with no negative implications:

The owner of is a 60-year-old club racer, and his equally youthful crew is comprised of solid Corinthian-level sailors. the technology can make the crossover to Corinthian raceboats and, soon, the performance cruising market.

In this context, "Corinthian" raceboats would be like a road-going sports cars in contrast to a Formula racer or other track car.

Sharkford (talk) 18:45, 8 March 2016 (UTC)Reply