Talk:Democratic Party
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I'm nominating all of these for deletion as "not dictionary material" - Obviously Republican and Liberal and whatnot are, I'm just talking about specific entries (see WT:CFI#Names of specific entries). Mglovesfun (talk) 09:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- We need to show attestation per 'Names of specific entities', not idiomaticity. So keep all official names of parties and send to RFV; but Conservative party, which I assume is not its official name, is SoP, so delete that one.—msh210℠ 00:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- I sent Liberal Democrats to RFV before I discovered the others, and nobody looked so I moved them all here. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- Delete, Mglovesfun (talk) 09:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Delete, Mglovesfun (talk) 09:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Delete, Mglovesfun (talk) 09:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Delete, Mglovesfun (talk) 09:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Delete Mglovesfun (talk). Also inconsistent capital letters, compared to the rest. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:44, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Parties of other countries
What should we do with the names of parties of other than English-speaking countries? They do not necessarily have the word Party (or its equivalent in other languages) in their name, and they are certainly stuff that somebody might want to look up in a dictionary. The possible inclusion of Christlich Demokratische Union Deutschlands (CDU) might be discussed as an example. --Hekaheka 14:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- I suppose almost anything can be translated, including proper nouns that don't meet our criteria. I think the current WT:BP discussion (of which I forget the name) is on a similar sort of topic. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Adding two Canadian parties. —Michael Z. 2009-08-25 14:39 z
Cf. New Democrat, New Democratic, NDP. —Michael Z. 2009-08-25 14:39 z
- Not dictionary material, delete, Mglovesfun (talk) 14:43, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Cf. Progressive Conservative, PC.. —Michael Z. 2009-08-25 14:39 z
- Not dictionary material, delete, Mglovesfun (talk) 14:43, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
And the accentless form Bloc Quebecois
- Not dictionary material, delete, Mglovesfun (talk) 14:43, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Also abbreviated BQ, but I suppose we keep abbreviations because of their potentially cryptic nature? Cf. Bloquiste, bloquiste. —Michael Z. 2009-08-25 14:48 z
- I'd just put {{w|Bloc Québécois}} instead of ] Mglovesfun (talk) 17:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
And Parti Quebecois. Cf. PQ, péquiste. —Michael Z. 2009-08-25 14:48 z
Keep them all, I think. WT:CFI allows for the inclusion of names which are "used attributively, with a widely understood meaning." Political party names have widely understood meanings and connotations, and I think abundant attributive usages of any political party name can be found. Wiktionary is supposed to be comprehensive and these names seem to me to fall on the "include" side of the line. The definitions, of course, should be brief and unencyclopedic. -- WikiPedant 04:06, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Kept all, no consensus. Mglovesfun (talk) 06:31, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
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Not going to seek out any other adj+party entries right now, but they're SOP... god knows how many parties there have been throughout the world. Some of them might not be SOP, I can see how a Labour party could potentially warrant inclusion... but these two in particular are pretty obvious to me at least. — — 11:33, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- Note: These were previously kept due to no consensus.—msh210℠ (talk) 15:36, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- Delete per WT:CFI#Company names.—msh210℠ (talk) 15:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- Good spot, delete. --Mglovesfun (talk) 22:17, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- Delete per above, including all that don't meet WT:CFI#Company names; though maybe consider adding one of those templates which link to the entry on Wikipedia as a sister project,
{{in wikipedia}}? Caladon 22:23, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- Redirect Democratic Party and Republican Party to Wikipedia using
{{only in}}, like Caladon suggests. - -sche (discuss) 20:28, 15 September 2011 (UTC)- Yes, that sounds good.—msh210℠ (talk) 14:54, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
- Redirect Democratic Party and Republican Party to Wikipedia using
- democratic party, would seem to merit inclusion.Gtroy 20:33, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- Based on what? And why democratic but not republican? — — 23:01, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- This is not mentioned in CFI, but these two are among the World's most powerful organisations due to one of them always holding U.S. presidency. They also appear in numerous texts, which assume that they are known to the reader. They also have a standard translation to all major languages of the World. keep --Hekaheka 22:10, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
- (Missed this discussion, reposting my opinion) Nominated but not listed. Do the political parties always live up to their names? Is Democratic Party a party, which is democratic and can all democratic parties have a name Democratic Party?. They are just proper names, IMO and we should keep them. --Anatoli 01:06, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- delete, fails the CFI on company names -- Liliana • 01:22, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- If these are company names (and I think they are) then yes, they'd fail an RFV anyway. Mglovesfun (talk) 08:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: A political party is not a company, at least not in my mental taxonomy. Furthermore, WT:CFI#Company names has never been voted on, and a poll showed that a slight majority of editors wants some company names included. Moreover, "Democratic Party" and "Republican Party" are names of specific entities, and thus are not semantic sums of parts; in particular, "Republican Party" is presumably a democratic party in that it supports democracy as a method of government, and is internally run by party elections rather than having a dictatorial structure. --Dan Polansky 08:52, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
deleted -- Liliana • 07:34, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Further reading
- “Democratic Party”, in OneLook Dictionary Search.
- “the Democratic Party”, in Oxford Learner's Dictionaries
- “Democratic Party”, in The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th edition, Boston, Mass.: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2016, →ISBN.
- “Democratic Party”, in Collins English Dictionary.
- “the Democratic Party” (US) / “the Democratic Party” (UK) in Macmillan English Dictionary.