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James Bond

Latest comment: 12 years ago11 comments8 people in discussion

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Moved from RFV, now RFD. DAVilla 11:12, 27 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Rfv-sense: sarcastic: a person who has very poor spying skills. --SusiCantel (talk) 19:35, 26 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Delete. Any verification would be of an ironic use of the first sense, which can be done with any name of a person having a known skill. For example, if you play basketball and you make a good shot, someone might say that you looked like Michael Jordan; if you miss the same shot badly, the person commenting could say the same thing sarcastically. bd2412 T 19:47, 26 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
I agree. Compare Sherlock Holmes: there is a sense for someone with great powers of observation and deduction, but no opposite sense, though the general-purpose device of sarcasm means that this flattering sense can be used sarcastically (just as "genius" can be used sarcastically to mean "idiot"). Same with Einstein. Equinox ◑ 19:49, 26 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
Delete Pretty much anything can be used sarcastically. Do we need "Big: (sarcastic) small" or "Good: (sarcastic) bad"? Smurrayinchester (talk) 11:31, 27 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
(Incidentally, 007 also has the same (sarcastic) sense, which should also probably be included in this RFD) Smurrayinchester (talk) 11:34, 27 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
Added. DAVilla 12:14, 27 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
Delete per SMurray (including sense at ]). DCDuring TALK 12:17, 27 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
Delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:27, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Deleted. DAVilla 04:23, 3 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

RFV discussion: October 2012

Latest comment: 12 years ago4 comments4 people in discussion

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Rfv-sense: sarcastic: a person who has very poor spying skills. --SusiCantel (talk) 19:35, 26 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Delete. Any verification would be of an ironic use of the first sense, which can be done with any name of a person having a known skill. For example, if you play basketball and you make a good shot, someone might say that you looked like Michael Jordan; if you miss the same shot badly, the person commenting could say the same thing sarcastically. bd2412 T 19:47, 26 October 2012 (UTC)Reply
I agree. Compare Sherlock Holmes: there is a sense for someone with great powers of observation and deduction, but no opposite sense, though the general-purpose device of sarcasm means that this flattering sense can be used sarcastically (just as "genius" can be used sarcastically to mean "idiot"). Same with Einstein. Equinox ◑ 19:49, 26 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Moved to RFD per above. DAVilla 11:11, 27 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

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