Talk:after
Note: The adverb is aft, thus; "The after gun is mounted aft"
- I don't think this is an adverb. It tells us nothing of how the gun was mounted but where: towards the after end of the ship or, in the after end of the ship. In these cases it is a preposition.
- But in "The dog bounded after", it is used as an adverb, modifying the verb "bounded". However, since "happily ever after" is idiomatic, this probably should not be used as an example. cwbr77 (talk) 10:12, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Definition needs to be minimized
In the first definition- subsequently to; following in time; later than, should be changed to- subsequent to; following in time or order. Changing "subsequently" to subsequent, adding or order and truncating, later than. The fifth, sixth and seventh definitions are redundant, merely reiterating the concept of "subsequent to".
The seventh is really redundant. The term "in spite of" is very ambiguous, and virtually slang. Inclusion of this definition is going the way of qualifying any synonymous phrase as a definition.
JustaAverageJoe 18:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Seconded
I'd like to reiterate this as having definitions repeated is actually unhelpful, which is not a very good description for a dictionary site. Also, definition 10's only standalone reference (the others being part of definition 3) is actually an idiomatic use, and I don't believe they are valid. cwbr77 (talk) 10:12, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Since we have after dark, why not after work? I'll meet you after work. --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:25, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
Adjective: 1. 2. comparative of aft ?
2. comparative of aft ?">edit]Adjective 1. later; subsequent (cf. afteryears) 2. further aft: the after cabin --Backinstadiums (talk) 11:22, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
"Boot after boot was tried on" -- etc.
(See citation at Crispin.) Is this just preposition sense 1 ("following in time") or is there anything more to be said about this sort of construction? Equinox ◑ 16:49, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
RFV discussion: June 2024
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4. In allusion to, in imitation of; following or referencing.
- We named him after his grandfather.
- This painting is after Leonardo da Vinci.
6. (dated) According to an author or text.
RFV that sense #6 exists and is not a misworded attempt at #4. It could be completely fine, but at the moment I cannot exactly envisage its being used like this. Mihia (talk) 20:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- FWIW, the 1933 OED has these as separate senses, but with only two cites, only one of them from after 1500; perhaps someone can check whether the modern/online OED keeps them as separate senses (or has any more cites). The old OED has " Following as one follows a leader or guide; in obedience to, in compliance or harmony with, according to a ''law, will, word advice''. Obs. In his Name, beg boldly what we need (After his will). ">…] 12.c. In accordance with the statements of; according to (an author). Obs. or ?arch. Oates, after Galen, have like nature as Barlis.", vs "14. After the manner of; in imitation of; like." for "name after". - -sche (discuss) 22:11, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- @-sche: The online OED entry seems to be available to everyone (link to sense). J3133 (talk) 05:27, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- In the OED version that I see online, the definition that seems to correspond to our #6, as distinct from #4, is "On the authority of, as stated by, according to (an author or text)", which is labelled "Obsolete", the last citation that they have being from 1601, "Anacharsis the Scythian, or after some, Hyperbios the Corinthian, invented the cast of turning the roundell or globe." On this basis, I guess we should pass this and change "dated" to "obsolete". Mihia (talk) 17:48, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note we have an entry for name after. Mazzlebury (talk)
- "name after" is sense #4. There shouldn't be any issue with that one. Mihia (talk) 14:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- RFV-passed (as obsolete sense). Mihia (talk) 14:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)