Talk:body
Can anyone tell me what 'body' means in a feminist context? Here's an example: 'We need the power of modern critical theories of how meanings and bodies get made, not in order to deny meanings and bodies, but in order to build meanings and bodies that have a chance for life.' I have trouble understanding this author anyway, but does body mean anything in particular in a feminist context? 83.83.59.46 11:10, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell from the weird text, she is using it in the sense of the physical thing that holds the soul. But it really is psychobabble. SemperBlotto (talk) 11:16, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- I think it just means body (physical torso etc.) but in terms of how it is perceived (by what that kind of writer would call a gaze, e.g. the "male gaze" perceives the female body in certain ways, perhaps as a sex object). So the "making" of a body is the social development of a generally accepted idea of what a body represents. You see the word "race-making" (development of ideas about people of different races) in similar contexts. Equinox ◑ 11:17, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Hair
What does "body" mean in the context of hair? For example, hair volumizer adds "body" to hair. Is it the sense "Comparative viscosity, solidity or substance" already in this entry, or something distinct? – Minh Nguyễn 💬 05:06, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I think it's that sense. Basically it makes the hair bigger, adds perceived volume (AFAIK). Equinox ◑ 05:12, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
As here --Backinstadiums (talk) 19:54, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
English etymology
Looks related to *bandiz (“band, fetter”) Okolo-basii (talk) 23:07, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
ب د ن ; b-d-n
- is it a coincidence ,or what?
"body" in arabic =From the root: ب د ن (b-d-n)... https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/%D8%A8%D8%AF%D9%86
- & in heb. : בטן - beten = eng. belly or ("bottom")
Zoren999 (talk) 07:39, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Looks like a coincidence to me. To start with, the Hebrew is cognate with a different Arabic term, so your two Semitic examples aren't even related to each other. Then there's the fact that the third consonant in Old English is "g". Add to that the lack of contact between Arabs and Old English speakers at that early date, along with the rarity of borrowing of such basic terms in general, and it looks very, very unlikely. Chuck Entz (talk) 19:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Re: EN verb #6
Is it not a special case of #5 ("To utterly defeat someone")? Should it be merged into it, and if so how should the templating be changed? Maybe something like:
4. (transitive, slang, African-American Vernacular) To murder someone.
5. (transitive, slang, African-American Vernacular, by extension, video games) To utterly defeat someone. Frequently used in the passive voice form get bodied by.
Also, just from personal experience, I frequently see it used intransitively as simply "I got bodied" or "I've been bodied". 71.168.173.2 18:10, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
RFV discussion: June–August 2023
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Rfv-sense "to hard counter a particular character build or play style." Too specific, speedy delete? Ioaxxere (talk) 03:29, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Well, Im the one who added the quote we have there. The webcomic uses it without explanation, and I hadn't seen it before, so I went to the only sense we listed that was related to video games. So I'm pretty sure it exists and should not be deleted, but it's possible that, like bleeder, die, and some other word I can't remember right now, this is a video-game related term whose precise definition might be up for debate, and might vary slightly from one gaming community to another. —Soap— 11:24, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Having looked through Reddit a bit, though, I agree perhaps our sense is too narrow. There's a definite connection with the video game community, and with fighting games specifically, but it looks more to me now that the person who added this may have been a player of one game in particular where it had taken on a narrow meaning, and was unaware of the more general use outside the community. I'd be against folding it into the sense above, though, even if we rewrote it, because murdering someone in real life and beating someone up in a video game are to me two clearly distinct concepts that shouldn't be linked even metaphorically. Perhaps a broader definition such as "to beat up; to defeat overwhelmingly" with a label like fighting games would help, even though that label doesnt have a category of its own. —Soap— 13:57, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- That's just sense 4.1. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 11:20, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- Indeed. This probably should be an RFD really but too late to faff about moving it now. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 11:01, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- I would rather see it retained as an independent sense on its own line. I agree sense 5 likely derives from sense 4, but that's just speculation on our part, and when I was looking up information earlier on pages like this and this people had completely different ideas about where it came from, and none of them mention a direct derivation from the sense of murder. —Soap— 12:50, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- That's just sense 4.1. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 11:20, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
RFV Failed Ioaxxere (talk) 21:16, 24 August 2023 (UTC)