Talk:emo
Definition, POS, and etymology
Emo is a style of music. Not an adjective.
Emo is also an adjective. 86.131.94.6 19:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Emo does not stand for Emotional! it stands for Emotive Hardcore when classifiying people. —This unsigned comment was added by Megan j09 (talk • contribs) 03:56, 15 May 2007 (UTC).
- Are you sure it's EMOTIVE hardcore? I think emotional hardcore works better. emotive isn't a word, i think. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.92.86.9 (talk • contribs) 03:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
This is definitely a poor definition. Look to Wikipedia's emo article for some guidance. Cheeser1 21:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- Since I became able to edit the article, I wound up fixing it up quite a bit. I think this one gives enough leeway to encompass all usages of the word. Cheeser1 02:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
This is still a poor definition, three years after Cheeser1's comment. The claim that emo is a shortening of emotional is false, despite it being a common misconception. Emo is a shortening of the original terms emocore and emotive hardcore, which were used to describe certain hardcore punk bands in the late 80's. As far as usage, people currently do use the adjective to refer to depressed people or people with a certain style of dress, but this is an evolution of the word and does not have to do with its etymology.Radioburning 07:11, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
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The first and third senses seem like nuance senses of the second and fourth, but maybe citations can attest such specifics:
- (Verification for this usage is being sought)+ (uncountable, music, early 1990s) A particular style of hardcore punk rock
- (uncountable, music, late 1990s-current) Any form of guitar-driven alternative rock that is particularly or notably emotional
- (Verification for this usage is being sought)+ (countable, early 1990s) An individual or group of people associated with the subculture and musical style of definition (1)
- (countable, late 1990s-current) An individual or group of people associated with a fashion or stereotype of definition (2)
Rod (A. Smith) 07:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sure senses 3 & 4 could be covered by one def. Sense 2 is a contentious one, and I think some people (mainly the type of people who actually refer to themselves as "emos") would see it as a misuse of sense 1. RobbieG 11:39, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Senses 3&4 (which can be combined and expanded) are usually adjectives, but you occasionally see reference to "an emo", and "emos". -- Thisis0 17:53, 24 October 2007 (UTC)Dang it, I keep changing my mind. All I mean to say is, this also needs an adjective sense. -- Thisis0 18:03, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Fair to say these have failed RFV, or should they be marked
{{historic}}or something? --Connel MacKenzie 18:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I don't really know either. They had a lot of trouble at WP about this. It starts with being "short for emotional". There is a very vague adjective sense that might mean something like emotional/depressive/depressed and there are various music styles connected with the non-musical concept. Urban dictionary still has 300+ definitions. The word seems to often be used pejoratively. But I have zero intuition about it. DCDuring TALK 18:58, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I took a run at the adjective sense. DCDuring TALK 19:05, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I have added a pile of cites, several of which I believe attest the two contested senses, I am passing for now but feel free to renom, since it technically failed. - DaveRoss 23:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
"Emotard" actually correct?
I came across this entry randomly, but I noticed that under the "English - Derivations" section, the redlinked word "emotard" is listed. Maybe I'm wrong, but I sincerely doubt this is a real term, or at least not one suitable for the Wiktionary. Anybody know if it is/isn't and want to resolve the issue? -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 02:43, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
- We don't omit words just because they are offensive or childish. I think this one would just barely pass our attestation requirements at WT:CFI: there seem to be a few uses on the old Usenet newsgroup system: . Equinox ◑ 02:47, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Finnish
I don't know why the page is protected, but could someone please add "(poetic) mother" of "(poetic or archaic) mother" as the first definition under Finnish?
- The second line is already there. SURJECTION ·talk·contr·log· 11:10, 12 October 2018 (UTC)