Talk:end up

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RFD discussion: January–October 2022

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Rfd-redundant: Three senses redundant to newly added sense 2: "To come to a place, condition, or situation, often unplanned or unexpected."

end up (conclude)

"To conclude, turn out, sometimes unexpectedly."

end up (arrive at a destination)

"To arrive at a destination, sometimes unexpectedly."

end up (culminate in)

"To eventually do or become; culminate in."

Although the new definition is more abstract, I think it is clearer. I hope the eight usage examples showing the range of complements make the application of the definition easier to understand. DCDuring (talk) 17:29, 19 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

  • I would agree as to the first two, but am more ambivalent about the third. I can see a construction like "Everybody thought Jordan would marry Maria, and that's exactly what he ended up doing", where the culmination is the opposite of the unexpected. bd2412 T 03:56, 20 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Delete all three per DCDuring (thanks). I added "final" before "place, situation..." and changed "often" to "sometimes" to possibly address bd2412's concern. Facts707 (talk) 11:40, 20 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

It feels like often is still appropriate. Often allows for exceptions. DAVilla 06:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Delete per merger. DAVilla 06:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Also Delete per merger. Overlordnat1 (talk) 07:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply


RFD discussion: January–October 2022

See Talk:end up#RFD discussion: January–October 2022.