Talk:fullend
RFV discussion: March–June 2017
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None of the three existing cites actually has "fullend" in it. Equinox ◑ 22:28, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- It doesn't appear in the Middle English Dictionary, though fulenden does, nor in Lexicons of Early Modern English, nor Century 1911, nor any of the OneLook dictionaries. That leaves only the OED among major dictionary sources and indirect sources suggest they have it. One source says the OED has a cite from 1425, normally considered Middle English AFAICT. Also, fullendian (Anglo-Saxon) appears in A Concise Anglo−Saxon Dictionary and shows it to have been used in Bede's w:Ecclesiastical History. They reference the OED's entry for fullend, if I read their explanation of their entry notation correctly. DCDuring TALK 23:20, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- I can't find anything in Books or Groups that isn't a scanno for full end/full-end, a noun, an adjective (as fullended), or in some other language- with one exception here. Given that there's an adverbial sense for full, I would be skeptical of multi-word spellings being anything but SOP full modifying end. As for the one use, it may be relevant that the author, w:is:Eyjólfur Kjalar Emilsson, is Icelandic- though his English is quite good. Chuck Entz (talk) 00:07, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
- Here are the citations in the online OED - not properly formatted:-
OE tr. Bede Eccl. Hist. (Corpus Cambr.) iii. xvii. 232 He ða bæd Cynebill..þæt he ða arfæstan ongunnennesse fullendode & gefyllde þa he ne moste.
a1225 (▸?a1200) MS Trin. Cambr. in R. Morris Old Eng. Homilies (1873) 2nd Ser. 61 We hauen ure penitence fulended.
a1300 (▸?c1175) Poema Morale (Jesus Oxf.) 239 in R. Morris Old Eng. Misc. (1872) 66 Þeo þat gode were by-gunne and ful-endy hit nolden.
c1300 Life & Martyrdom Thomas Becket (Harl. 2277) (1845) 2205 If he ful in feble stat, that he ne miȝte hit ful ende, The penance he nom upe him silve.
▸a1382 Bible (Wycliffite, E.V.) (Douce 369(1)) (1850) Ecclus. xxxiv. 8 With oute lesing shal be ful endid the wrd of the lawe.
▸a1398 J. Trevisa tr. Bartholomaeus Anglicus De Proprietatibus Rerum (BL Add. 27944) (1975) I. ix. iv. 522 So it is acountid for anon to þe nyntenþe ȝere whanne þe cicle and þe cours of þe mone is fulendid.
a1400 tr. Lanfranc Sci. Cirurgie (Ashm.) (1894–1988) 354 (MED), Wiþout which grace is no þing fulendid .
a1500 Eng. Conquest Ireland (Rawl.) (1896) 43 Such martirdomes..whych in no mannes hert may be thoght to ful end.
1537 Coverdale tr. Goodly Treat. Faith f. xvv, Beynge assured that the worde of God hathe fullended a glorious worke in vs.
SemperBlotto (talk) 06:59, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
- (I've added blank lines above to make it easier to read.) The original NED/OED can be found on the Internet Archive; all but the last volumes were published before 1923 and are PD in the US. This entry doesn't seem to have been updated since 1901, so it matches the entry from the Online OED.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:07, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
- To me only the Coverdale citation is English and spelled as the entry. There is a use in Finnegans Wake, which of course is quite unclear as to its meaning. The following is an indirect citation, but I can't see anything in the tiny6 snippet window:
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RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 06:38, 4 June 2017 (UTC)