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Not that I doubt the 3 definitions (though I don't find the lotus plant def. in OneLook references), but I suspect that we might get more than the usual number of pageviews for this. So, we should gussy it up with cites and pictures and improved wording. DCDuring (talk) 20:27, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
The kamala tree (and its dye) sense seems easily attestable. However, I can't really find good citations for Nelumbo lucifera. There are several works discussing kamala in the sense of "lotus" (chiefly in mythological contexts, e.g. ), but I found no clear uses (e.g. botanical works) in which kamala certainly means Nelumbo nucifera.
By the way, I'm not sure the current etymology is correct. I think the origin of the Mallotus sense might instead be Sanskrit कमला(kamalā, “orange”) (cf. Bengali কমলা(komola), Hindi कमला(kamlā) etc.), which sounds plausible considering the colour of the fruit/powder. (Webster 1923 also suggests a similar etymology.)
Thanks for doing this. The Nelumbo lucifera sense seems to have been assumed from the apparent use of the Sanskrit with that meaning. I couldn't find any English usage. Maybe the ety should go to WT:ES. DCDuring (talk) 21:21, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Could not find any English use or mention for the sacred-lotus sense either, particularly with neither taxonomic synonym, only as a term in some or the other Indian language, so Einstein2 must be right about the etymology. Fay Freak (talk) 22:37, 14 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I recently redid the etymology of Sanskrit कमल(kamala). Classical Sanskrit kamala- meant “lotus”. Vedic kamalá- meant “pale red”. It is unclear whether these words are related. (There is a third word, kamála-, whose meaning “desirous” is very uncertain.) I agree with @Einstein2 that it is tempting to connect the English meaning “Mallotus” to the Sanskrit meaning “pale red”, but I can't find a mention of the Mallotus plants in any Sanskrit dictionary or in Turner. Is the word kamala used for “Mallotus” in any Indian language or is that only so in English?
@Caoimhin ceallach You are mentioning the “pale red” sense (ety 2) of कमल(kamala), although I was referring to a (different?) term: कमला(kamalā, “orange (fruit)”), which occurs in the orange trans-table and a few etymology sections. I guess the English Mallotus sense may have been borrowed from either of those but I'm not familiar with Sanskrit so I probably shouldn't speculate about the etymology.
