Talk:neither

Why was it removed? It is true and seems like relevant information. I have never ever heard someone say "me nEYEther". Any arguments against adding it back?
Ulmanor 03:05, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

I say me nEYEther. Jamesjiao → ^{T ◊ C} 03:12, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Examples:

In the below text it seems closer to either, but not even exactly that. Equinox ◑ 12:17, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

• 1721, John Mortimer, The Whole Art of Husbandry (page 61)

  But several sowing of Wheat at that time, because 'twas the usual time of doing of it, it lay in the Ground till Rain came, which was the latter end of October first, and then but part of it came up neither, because it was mustied and spoiled with lying so long in the Ground

As a correlative conjunction, NEITHER is almost always followed by nor, not or
https://www.wordreference.com/definition/neither

What exceptions does "almost always" hide? --Backinstadiums (talk) 16:21, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

I think the statement that you quote is intended in a descriptive way - i.e. some speakers (of colloquial or regional varieties) sometimes use it with "or", although prescriptively it is never correct to do so. From the Oxford English Dictionary: "Numerous grammarians from the mid 18th cent. onwards criticize the use of or rather than nor as ungrammatical and improper." The OED's citations show, though, that neither...or is just as old a construction as neither...nor and neither...neither, although older still is the now obsolete neither...ne.

Neither is grammatically singular, but it is often used with a plural verb, especially when followed by of and a plural: Neither of the candidates are really expressing their own views.
https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=neither

--Backinstadiums (talk) 17:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

I've added it. Singular is more logical and traditionally preferred, but plural is quite common, and also condoned by newer grammars. 88.64.225.53 01:56, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

I had no complaints and no more (= neither) did Tom. (Formal) I will torment you no more (= no longer) --Backinstadiums (talk) 08:53, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

A usage note states that "neither" never functions as a conjunction. And yet "either" can be a conjunction according to https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/either and some of the examples given of "either" conj. are exactly parallel to possible uses of "neither" - "You can have either potatoes or rice with that" - exact parallel of "You can have neither potatoes nor rice". "You'll be either early, late, or on time" - exact parallel of "You'll be neither early, late, nor on time". So, one or the other entry is wrong, or maybe more likely, the question is debatable. But if the question is debatable, the usage note perhaps shouldn't make such a firm statement, and in any case, the two entries still need to be brought into line with each other.