Talk:partisan

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The French partisan stems from a *dialectal* Italian partezan

The (English-English dictionary) "The World Book Dictionary" (ed. 1979) says:
The French partisan stems from a *dialectal* Italian partezan (with "e" and "z" ), which derives from the *standard* Italian partigiano, which comes from the Italian parte, which stems from the Latin pars which means part.
Steue (talk) 21:45, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

What dialect of Italian? Is the specific form partezan found in any sources written in dialectal Italian? (And by "dialectal Italian", I assume it is quite possible they mean a sibling Romance language like Venetian or Neapolitan, and not a regional Italian dialect in the strict sense.) 70.172.194.25 01:23, 10 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Etymology: Already 50 years earlier than 1690

partisan #Etymology 1 gives the year 1690 for the military meaning.
But the German-German dictionary: Hermann Paul, "Deutsches Wörterbuch", Max Niemeyer Verlag, Tübingen, 9. Ausgabe (edition) 1992, entry "Partisan" says, that the word was already known in 1640, derived from the French partisan meaning party adherent.
Steue (talk) 01:16, 10 August 2022 (UTC)Reply