Talk:ring
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Etymology 3; Adj.; UK slang short for boring. Really? Does it have a comparative form? DCDuring 07:23, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- Never heard this. Widsith 10:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- This is another example of those words that never make it into print, but you can hear it spoken. It should really have an apostrophe at the beginning. Impossible to cite without access to an free licence recorded speech data base. - Algrif 20:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, 'ring. I might have known, but the apostrophe certainly helps. It's against policy to have punctuation in the entry name, but should the 'ring spelling appear in the sense line at least - and it's supposed to have a separate etymology then too, isn't it. DCDuring 21:05, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- There’s no policy against apostrophes or commas in entry titles — only against erotemes, exclamation marks, and cola (for they are not wikifiable; see what happens when you search for « : »). Feel free to create ‛ring, if it is verifiable. † ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 11:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
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A bunch of interspersed redundant senses. --22:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm presuming that you are wanting to merge the following noun senses:
- "A round piece of metal put around a bird's leg used for identification and studies of migration." (3) with "A circumscribing object (looking like an annual ring, earring, finger ring, etc.)" (1).
- "A circular arena where circus acts take place, a circus ring." (5) with "A place where some sports take place; as, a boxing ring." (4)
- If so, I can see what you mean about 4 and 5, although the definition of 4 would need to be modified slightly to note that it isn't just sports that take place in that sort of ring.
- I disagree that the specific bird ring sense is redundant to the general circumscribing object one though. A ring around a birds leg is used to uniquely identify that bird for various reasons, this is not true of any other sort of ring that I can think of.
- Regarding the verb senses, I disagree that any of them can be merged. Thryduulf 23:11, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- I can't see the verb senses being combined in any way. But both should be expanded a bit.--Dmol 23:53, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think that deleting senses usually laughable for us in a common polysemic word like this. For ety 1, MW3 has 28 senses for the noun + 14 subsenses, 10 + 2 for the verb. For ety 2, noun 6 + 2, 14 + 4 for the verb; for a grand total of 80 senses. It seems as if we should figure out how to make sure we have all the main senses covered and context-labelled, and grouped and sequenced so they provide mutual support. DCDuring TALK 00:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- A boxing ring is not always circular; to quote w:Boxing ring, "A boxing ring is the space in which a boxing match occurs. A modern ring, which is set on a raised platform, is square with a post at each corner to which four parallel rows of ropes are attached with a turnbuckle." On the other hand I believe that circus rings are generally circular, or at least round, in shape. -- Visviva 06:34, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- Bird rings are not always round pieces of metal. Their main purpose is to identify, not to be round. -- Algrif 16:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- Don't they always sit around something, though?—msh210℠ 18:39, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- They usually do, but they can come off and are still rings. I presume (but don't know) that before they are applied to a bird they are neither ring-shaped nor enclosing anything. Although it is possible they have a different name before they're applied, my guess is that this is not the case. Thryduulf 19:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- Don't they always sit around something, though?—msh210℠ 18:39, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- Bird rings are not always round pieces of metal. Their main purpose is to identify, not to be round. -- Algrif 16:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- I believe the bird sense is also specifically UK, as indicated by the Wikipedia article. At least, in the US I have always heard these referred to as "bands." -- Visviva 04:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- That's evidence enough for me for a UK tag. Thryduulf 13:13, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- I believe the bird sense is also specifically UK, as indicated by the Wikipedia article. At least, in the US I have always heard these referred to as "bands." -- Visviva 04:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Kept bird ring sense - no strong views to delete - looks more than warranting of its own definition. --Jackofclubs 12:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Dubious sense(s)
- (British) a large circular prehistoric stone construction such as Stonehenge.
Really? Also a few of the first one seem to be redundant to each other, the ring that goes on a bird's leg and an onion ring are just ring-shaped objects. I'd prefer either two definitions in place of these three or even one. A ring of stones isn't a single physical structure, but a silver ring is. I think those two merit two different senses. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
"ring backward"
Chambers 1908 has this, defined as "to change the order of ringing" (bells, I assume). If the change in order isn't necessarily a full reversal, then this isn't SoP; but I have no idea. Equinox ◑ 14:08, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Mathematical sense
There is a mathematical sense (see The Wikipedia page). I'm not versed enough in such fields to make heads or tails of it, but could someone familiar with it add it?--Simplificationalizer (talk) 03:50, 16 May 2022 (UTC)