Talk:settle
Synonyms need to be sorted by sense. --Type56op9 (talk) 11:04, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
RFC discussion: September 2014–April 2017
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If anyone fancies a big job of bringing an entry into the 21st century, have a look at settle. I did my best to modernise some of the definitions and reformat things, but there's still a decent amount of work to be done to make it looks reasonable. --Type56op9 (talk) 12:53, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
RFV discussion: August 2017
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RFV-senses:
- "(intransitive) To be established in a profession or in employment. to settle in the practice of law"
- "(intransitive, of an animal) To become pregnant."
A few months ago I overhauled the entry and cited all the senses I could, and wasn't able to cite these. I was able to cite "(transitive, of an animal) To impregnate." - -sche (discuss) 19:04, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
- Both senses are cited. Kiwima (talk) 01:52, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- Excellent work citing the employment sense. The citations under the pregnancy-related intransitive sense seem like they belong to the transitive sense instead, however. If "settle" were really an intransitive verb meaning "become pregnant", I would expect "the cow settled". "The cow was settled" seems like "the cow was impregnated" (the transitive sense); compare "the official was reprimanded". @DCDuring, do you interpret "settle" in these citations as transitive or intransitive? - -sche (discuss) 03:52, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed, these all seem like passive uses of the transitive verb to me. BigDom 04:05, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- Not durable, but "Most vet's need about 30-45 days before they can tell if the cow settled." CattleToday.com's Q&A Boards. - Amgine/ t·e 04:09, 26 August 201
- Good point. That's what I get for trying to finish quickly. It is now cited Kiwima (talk) 04:13, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- Nice job. BigDom 04:24, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- If it is a verb it would have to be transitive. But the cites do not unambiguously settle the matter. In particular, all of the cites could be of an adjective. Use of a PP headed by by would help, also use with an auxiliary verb like do or have. And, of course, use with an explicit object in active voice. DCDuring (talk) 12:46, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- Excellent work. RFV-passed, imo (although technically we should wait a few days). The employment sense seems to always(?) be used with "in" and then a profession, but I suppose it makes sense to leave the sense on settle and not move it to settle in; other dictionaries I looked at also cover it, as well as e.g. "settle in Montreal", under settle and not settle in. (I have added an &lit to "settle in". I wonder if it is a good idea to do that more generally? Or a bad idea?) - -sche (discuss) 20:42, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- Nice job. BigDom 04:24, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed, these all seem like passive uses of the transitive verb to me. BigDom 04:05, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
- Excellent work citing the employment sense. The citations under the pregnancy-related intransitive sense seem like they belong to the transitive sense instead, however. If "settle" were really an intransitive verb meaning "become pregnant", I would expect "the cow settled". "The cow was settled" seems like "the cow was impregnated" (the transitive sense); compare "the official was reprimanded". @DCDuring, do you interpret "settle" in these citations as transitive or intransitive? - -sche (discuss) 03:52, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
settle into a bowl (of soup, etc.)
Came across this rather strange expression recently: when one has a cold, one should "settle into" a bowl of hot soup? Sounds like you're entering the bowl and sinking in it. Equinox ◑ 08:13, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Also used with plate. Does our entry cover these usages? Equinox ◑ 08:14, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
settle as noun (poss dialect?)
A hundred years ago (1990s?) I was talking with a youngish Scouser software guy about a proposed program for taxi dispatchers, and he consistently referred to a cab company's share of the taxi driver's takings as `settle'. A Web search shows that this meaning is still in use among Merseyside cab companies to this day. 2A00:23C7:64A8:B701:EF06:FAA3:D503:1FD4 06:21, 4 December 2024 (UTC)