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These needed some kind of context labels, given the quotes. The first is clearly quite dated, and perhaps obsolete (as I have boldly marked it); the second seems to be mostly produced by non-native speakers, and I added the nonstandard label, although it could be improved upon. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds03:49, 21 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
I agree that the first is obsolete. I am not so sure on the second. The cites I could find in permanently archieved sources mostly looked to be by non-native speakers, but I found plenty in non-permanently archived sources that looked to be by native speakers. Kiwima (talk) 05:29, 21 January 2018 (UTC)Reply