Talk:swoop

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For etymology also see etymology of german schweifen here: Martinus rex (talk) 07:35, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

To clarify, swoop is from a variant of the verb swope, which is the expected descendant of the Old English form.

Police swooped down on dozens of apartments.

What meaning of down is used here? JMGN (talk) 20:17, 4 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

@JMGN: The literal sense (downward). This is an extension of the metaphor of swooping, like a bird descends on its prey. You must use your imagination when metaphors are involved. (No offence: based on the questions you ask on talk pages , are you autistic?) 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:E554:283:652D:79BD 20:22, 4 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
It's an idiom, not literal https://www.wordreference.com/definition/swoop JMGN (talk) 20:27, 4 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
@JMGN: Yes, but a metaphor will often be extended in the way that the original (non-metaphorical) phrase was used. For example, we may say of a pregnant woman, "she has a bun in the oven". If the baby will come soon, we might add: "and it's almost fully baked". Babies aren't baked, but we are extending the idea of bun as baby. (And in such a case, asking "which sense of bake is used" is a waste of time, because it's the literal sense being used, but it's being used to extend the metaphor.) Do you understand? 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:E554:283:652D:79BD 23:01, 4 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Notice this extension comes form the original meaning "make a sweeping descent", so down is clearly redundant... JMGN (talk) 07:23, 5 June 2025 (UTC)Reply