Talk:that's the way life is

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That's the way life is

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I don't believe this is actually a proverb. Kappa 01:07, 6 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

It gets 619 b.g.c. hits. Maybe this is more suited to RFD? —RuakhTALK 07:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Do any of those bgc hits look like proverbial uses to you? Kappa 10:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Would "Idiom" seem better? This certainly is a set phrase, and non-compositional. The definition currently given is obviously flawed, though; as far as I'm aware, this doesn't mean literally "that's the way life is"; it is rather a gentle synonym for tough shit. -- Visviva 14:54, 6 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Please add three non-compositional cites to the entry. Kappa 06:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
It passes the fried egg test: it can only be used in certain ways, more restrictive than what is implied by its parts. For example, if something bad happens to you, but it has a bright side, I can't tell you "That's the way life is: every dark cloud has a silver lining." That's just not what "That's the way life is" means. So, I can add three cites in the correct sense, but it won't prove its non-compositionality. —RuakhTALK 07:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Added three cites which seem non-compositional to me; your mileage may vary. ;-) I don't see where the sense of inevitability, of "it cannot be helped," is present in the literal meaning of this phrase. Of course, we could tie ourselves in knots arguing over whether this is a semantic or a pragmatic/contextual attribute... But it seems to me that it is a verifiable and interesting attribute of this phrase, and therefore merits inclusion here. -- Visviva 09:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Does that mean I can add life's like that and that's life and any other variations, with cites, as well? Algrif 12:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Ah, yes, let's redirect to that's life, per our usual custom for alternative forms of multiword phrases. Excellent notion. -- Visviva 12:16, 8 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
I think these are less "alternative forms" than "synonyms". I don't think we should redirect this. —RuakhTALK 17:58, 8 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well, it's a fuzzy line, for sure. But to me it seems like this one -- along with all that's how life is and that's the way life goes and that's the way it is in life -- is just an alternative realization of the core utterance "that's life ." -- Visviva 00:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)Reply


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