User talk:AdjacentTriangle

For Dutch pronunciations, the nonsyllabic mark is used on the second element of diphthongs to indicate that they are diphthongs and not sequences of two vowels. For example, the word hindoeïsme contains /ui/, which is different from the diphthong /ui̯/ of groeit. Does Afrikaans also make such a distinction? If so, it may be better to write diphthongs this way too. —Rua (mew) 14:27, 29 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hello there. It appears that Afrikaans doesn't really seem to distinguish between a pair of vowels or diphthongs. Though this does appear to depend on the source. I'd probably attribute this to the fact that Afrikaans appears to have a more consistent pronunciation, when compared to Dutch (or at least that's what I have thought). Is there perhaps a definite source to look at/into that you are aware of? AdjacentTriangle (talk) 17:25, 29 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

How would a case like hindoeïsme be pronounced in Afrikaans, compared to groei? —Rua (mew) 17:29, 29 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Here you are:
hindoeïsme = /ˈɦɪn.du.əs.mə/; despite Afrikaans not having the /ɪ/ character, it appears to be voiced as such.
groei = /χru.i/

These might not be 100% correct (sorry, I'm still getting the hang of it), though if they are, it is only slightly incorrect. In short, they are almost exactly the same as Dutch. AdjacentTriangle (talk) 18:29, 29 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Thank you very much for your juggernaut edit at enkel. It is very comprehensive and just the kind of edit we need for languages that aren't covered well yet on Wiktionary. I have a few requests regarding edits. First, I'd like to ask you to always include a headword template for every part of speech (see here for more); in this case there was no adjective template. You can always use {{head|af|insert POS here blabla}} as a generic fallback if you're unsure which one to use or if you do not know a parameter that you cannot suppress. Second, if you have split etymologies in an edit, could you nest the part-of-speech sections inside them? Sorry if I am bugging you about occasional oversights with this.

Two minor points are:

1. If there are multiple etymology sections with an identical pronunciation, you can place the pronunciation section at L3 above the etymology sections.
2. Could you use /ʊə/ for the 'long' o, as is used on Afrikaans phonology?

←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 17:01, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hello, thank you for the kind words. I'll try and apply all that you've told me, and I thank you again for pointing out such errors. I'm happy to apply and adjust for the benefit of the site. If I make another error, please be sure to point it out as I do plan to contribute a lot more to the resource.

AdjacentTriangle (talk) 19:41, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I'm sorry to bother you about one thing. You might be the wrong person to ask given your selected languages, but how would I go about making a Northern Sotho noun template with its classes? Or where would I find the person knowledgeable in such? I have a large list of Bantu vocabulary that I'd much like to add.

AdjacentTriangle (talk) 05:57, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I missed your question. I have no experience with making templates and know nothing about Wiktionary templates for Bantu languages. I think you can best direct your question to User:Smashhoof or User:Metaknowledge, who will be well informed about the existing templates for zone S Bantu languages. They'll also have a better idea of whom to ask about creating the template. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 07:03, 11 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi AdjacentTriangle. Does your list of Northern Sotho words have tones marked? The reason that I haven't been eager to embark on adding Northern Sotho vocabulary is because I haven't been able to find a dictionary or wordlist that does so, and seeing as the tones are rather important, if we don't add them the first time around, someone will eventually have to go back through and check every single entry, which is quite a slog. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 17:55, 11 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for the late response, I've been rather busy. I'm afraid neither of the two dictionaries I own have marked tones.AdjacentTriangle (talk) 17:35, 24 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Could you add an entry for Afrikaans vertoonvenster? It seems to mean "display case, showcase", also in a figurative sense, but I am not wholly sure. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 20:03, 17 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Done. AdjacentTriangle (talk) 06:56, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

The list of derived terms at Afrikaans vuur (in itself a great thing) contains a few items like vuurklipgeweer that are actually formed from vuurklip (derived term of vuur) + geweer. These terms would usually not be included in a section at vuur, but only at vuurklip. Compare what I did with vuurtoringwagter. I won't remove those terms now, so you can place them in the right entry later. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 18:13, 19 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

I went ahead and fixed the page. Is that them all? AdjacentTriangle (talk) 07:55, 20 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Yes, it looks fine. It is even defencible to leave those in that have an ambiguous derivation, people have different preferences in that respect. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 13:03, 20 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

The use of square brackets in the examples of maar looks very odd, but I suppose they are all meant to be synonyms? (No idea who added those, but they seem to be old.) ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 12:10, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

There still isn't an Afrikaans entry for "tobacco". Do you think the lemma should be at tabak or at twak? ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 13:03, 3 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Though the two are doublets, tabak is used far more than twak. AdjacentTriangle (talk) 05:06, 14 July 2021 (UTC)Reply