You might want to check for this: DTLHS (talk) 23:42, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Browne RM}}
→ {{RQ:Browne Religio Medici}}
{{RQ:Jonson BF}}
→ {{RQ:Jonson Bartholomew Fair}}
{{RQ:Macaulay History}}
→ {{RQ:Macaulay History of England}}
{{RQ:Melville Moby Dick}}
→ {{RQ:Melville Moby-Dick}}
{{RQ:Mill SOL}}
→ {{RQ:Mill System of Logic}}
{{RQ:Milton Anim}}
→ {{RQ:Milton Animadversions}}
{{RQ:Milton Areo}}
, {{RQ:Milton Liberty}}
→ {{RQ:Milton Areopagitica}}
{{RQ:Milton Ludlow}}
→ {{RQ:Milton Comus}}
{{RQ:Milton Eik}}
, {{RQ:Milton Eikon}}
→ {{RQ:Milton Eikonoklastes}}
{{RQ:Milton Education}}
→ {{RQ:Milton Of Education}}
{{RQ:Milton Pr}}
→ {{RQ:Milton Paradise Regained}}
{{RQ:Milton Poem}}
→ {{RQ:Milton Poems}}
{{RQ:Motley Rise}}
→ {{RQ:Motley Dutch Republic}}
Also, when you are free, please update URLs in the format https://archive.org/stream/hydriotaphiaurne00browuoft#page/n14/mode/1up
to https://archive.org/details/hydriotaphiaurne00browuoft/page/n14/mode/1up
(change stream
to details
and the hex sign before page
to a slash) in quotation and reference templates and their documentation pages. It appears that the Internet Archive changed the form of its URLs at some stage.
Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 20:18, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Benwing2 (talk) 06:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Dryden Painting}}
→ {{RQ:Du Fresnoy Dryden Painting}}
{{RQ:Dunglison ML}}
→ {{RQ:Dunglison Medical Lexicon}}
{{RQ:Samuel Pepys Diary}}
→ {{RQ:Pepys Diary}}
{{RQ:Pope Criticism}}
→ {{RQ:Pope Essay on Criticism}}
{{RQ:Pope Man}}
→ {{RQ:Pope Essay on Man}}
{{RQ:Pope Rape}}
→ {{RQ:Pope Rape of the Lock}}
{{RQ:RnhrtHpwd Bat}}
→ {{RQ:Rinehart Hopwood Bat}}
{{RQ:Scott Fortune of Nigel}}
→ {{RQ:Scott Fortunes of Nigel}}
{{RQ:Scott Guy}}
→ {{RQ:Scott Guy Mannering}}
{{RQ:Scott Peveril}}
→ {{RQ:Scott Peveril of the Peak}}
{{RQ:Scott QD}}
→ {{RQ:Scott Quentin Durward}}
Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 08:58, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
See diff; when I split the etymologies I forgot the "1" in "Etymology 1". I see 299 entries with "Etymology 2" but not "Etymology 1" that may need re-leveling. Ultimateria (talk) 23:43, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Shakespeare AW}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare AWTEW}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare All's Well}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare AC}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare Anthony}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Antony}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare AYLI}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare Like}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare As You Like It}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Errors}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Comedy of Errors}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Henry V}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Henry 5}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Caesar}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare JC}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Julius Caesar}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare John}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare King John}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare KL}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare Lear}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare King Lear}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Lear Q1}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare King Lear Q1}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare LL}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Love's Labour's Lost}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Rape}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Lucrece}}
{{Wikisource1911Enc Citation|XYZ}}
→ {{projectlink|1911|XYZ}}
Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 17:58, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Does your bot run on all languages, or just on a list of approved languages? I notice it fixed French agnelle but not Finish ainoihin, although that might also be the weird placement of ==Alternative forms==. I have a list of pages with empty sections that seems to almost double as a list of sections in need of some help from your bot. JeffDoozan (talk) 18:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
It seems like upon using the |m or |f parameters in the headword, this category is created. But not when the formatting is different, as in সম্পাদিকা. Would it be possible to categorize pages like that one as well? Thank you. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 18:52, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
{{female equivalent of}}
it will automatically categorize into a subcategory of 'nouns with other-gender equivalents'. Benwing2 (talk) 03:35, 13 January 2022 (UTC)Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Dryden MF}}
→ {{RQ:Dryden Mac Flecknoe}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Merchant}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare MV}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare The Merchant of Venice}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare Venice}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Merchant of Venice}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Merry}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare MW}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare Wives}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Merry Wives}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare MSD}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Midsummer}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Ado}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Much Ado About Nothing}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Romeo}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Romeo and Juliet}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Shrew}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Taming of the Shrew}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Titus}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Titus Andronicus}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare TAC}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare Troilus}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Troilus and Cressida}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Troilus Q1}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Troilus and Cressida Q1}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare 12.}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Twelfth Night}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Venus}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Venus and Adonis}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare TG}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Verona}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Winter}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Winter's Tale}}
{{wikisource1911Enc|XYZ}}
, {{Wikisource1911Enc|XYZ}}
→ {{projectlink|1911|XYZ}}
– there is a "deprecated" tag on this template, but I can't find any associated discussion. If you think it can be deleted, the {{projectlink|1911}}
template should be moved into a "Further reading" section at the bottom of each entry – it appears that since {{wikisource1911Enc}}
is a box, it is placed at the top right corners of entries.Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 21:25, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
{{wikisource1911Enc}}
changes were done yesterday.) Those latter changes required semi-manual handling; luckily there were < 30 pages using the old templates. You can delete those two templates along with {{link box}}
, which is used only for these two templates. Benwing2 (talk) 08:46, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
{{wikisource1911Enc}}
, {{Wikisource1911Enc}}
, {{link box}}
and also {{RQ:Shakespeare John}}
, which you seem to have missed in the previous batch (#8). Benwing2 (talk) 04:38, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
{{RQ:Shakespeare John}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare Lear}}
, {{RQ:Shakespeare Romeo}}
, and {{RQ:Shakespeare Titus}}
). — SGconlaw (talk) 05:30, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
{{RQ:Shakespeare John}}
? Benwing2 (talk) 05:32, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Boyle SC}}
, {{RQ:Boyle The Sceptical Chymist}}
→ {{RQ:Boyle Sceptical Chymist}}
{{RQ:Hale Prim}}
, {{RQ:Hale Primitive}}
, {{RQ:Hale Primitive Origination of Mankind}}
→ {{RQ:Hale Mankind}}
{{RQ:Sidney Arcadia2}}
→ {{RQ:Sidney Arcadia}}
{{RQ:Addison Spectator}}
→ {{RQ:Spectator}}
{{RQ:Spenser AE}}
, {{RQ:Spenser Sonnets}}
→ {{RQ:Spenser Amoretti}}
{{RQ:Spenser airy}}
, {{RQ:Spenser Q}}
→ {{RQ:Spenser Faerie Queene}}
{{RQ:Spenser SC}}
→ {{RQ:Spenser Shepheardes Calender}}
{{RQ:Stevenson Treasure}}
→ {{RQ:Stevenson Treasure Island}}
{{RQ:Swift Gulliver}}
(retain as redirect) → {{RQ:Swift Gulliver's Travels}}
{{RQ:Swift Tub}}
→ {{RQ:Swift Tale of a Tub}}
Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 18:06, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Taylor JC}}
→ {{RQ:Taylor Cave Antiquitates Christianae}}
{{RQ:Taylor DD}}
, {{RQ:Taylor ROC}}
, {{RQ:Taylor Rule of Conscience}}
, {{RQ:Taylor Ductor Dubitantium, or the Rule of Conscience}}
→ {{RQ:Taylor Ductor Dubitantium}}
{{RQ:Thomson COI}}
→ {{RQ:Thomson Castle of Indolence}}
{{RQ:Tusser GH}}
→ {{RQ:Tusser Good Husbandrie}}
{{RQ:Twain CY}}
→ {{RQ:Twain Connecticut Yankee}}
{{RQ:Twain Huck}}
, {{RQ:Twain Huckleberry}}
→ {{RQ:Twain Huckleberry Finn}}
{{RQ:Twain Rough}}
→ {{RQ:Twain Roughing It}}
Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 20:42, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Here is the last batch (for now):
{{RQ:Walton CA}}
→ {{RQ:Walton Compleat Angler}}
{{RQ:Wells War}}
→ {{RQ:Wells War of the Worlds}}
{{RQ:SWymn ChpngBrgh}}
→ {{RQ:Weyman Chippinge Borough}}
{{RQ:Wodehouse Offing}}
→ {{RQ:Wodehouse Jeeves in the Offing}}
{{RQ:Wood AO}}
→ {{RQ:Wood Athenae Oxonienses}}
{{RQ:Young The Complaint}}
→ {{RQ:Young Night-Thoughts}}
You might want to do bot runs from time to time and update the results at "User:Benwing2/english-quotation-templates-redirects" to check for other quotation template redirects. Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 18:00, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for catching lots of Wonderfool errors. I've generated loads lately, lol! Br00pVain (talk) 02:16, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello, can you help me, @Apisite:, with this module? I'd like to have an IPA template for Romagnol language that provides the pronunciations without insert them! If you will, I can describe here the rules of the Romagnol pronunciation.--BandiniRaffaele2 (talk) 18:07, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Hello, here is the first of the new batch:
{{RQ:Bacon Spain}}
, {{RQ:Bacon Considerations Touching a War with Spain}}
→ {{RQ:Bacon War with Spain}}
{{RQ:Bacon An Advertisement touching an Holy War}}
→ {{RQ:Bacon Holy War}}
{{RQ:Bacon Colours}}
(to be kept as a shortcut), {{RQ:Bacon Of the Colours of Good and Evil}}
→ {{RQ:Bacon Colours of Good and Evil}}
{{RQ:Bacon Wisdom}}
, {{RQ:Bacon Wisdom of the Ancients}}
→ {{RQ:Bacon Sapientia Veterum}}
{{RQ:Brontë Jane Eyre}}
, {{RQ:Charlotte Brontë Jane Eyre}}
→ {{RQ:Charlotte Bronte Jane Eyre}}
{{RQ:Browne PE}}
→ {{RQ:Browne Pseudodoxia Epidemica}}
Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 20:46, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
дихання shows the loc. sg. ди́ханѭ, ди́ханѣ, диха́нѭ, диха́нѣ. I don’t know who or what or when but I report the result, which does not conform current Ukrainian and affects all the nouns that end in -ння and have this <sg.locju:i>
. Fay Freak (talk) 18:49, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Hi Benwing2, I’ve never done this before so please let me know if I’m not following protocol!
I see part of WingerBot’s job is to add pluralizations to nouns that are lacking them. Of course some nouns are “mass nouns”, which are already both singular and plural in the same form (like “deer”). WingerBot added a pluralization of “ringworms”, which I believe is one of those cases.
At some point someone added “usually uncountable”, but unlike “fishes” or “salts”, I don’t think “ringworms” EVER has a pluralized usage.
I haven’t done enough Wiki editing (and _none_ on Wiktionary) to know how to handle this other than here on your talk page, which I just learned from WingerBot’s User page.
I would welcome any edifying you can send my way! I don’t even have a signature lol — Best, Cailan<3
~~~~
. Benwing2 (talk) 04:11, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
DTLHS (talk) 20:04, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Look familiar? Chuck Entz (talk) 08:10, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Holland Camden}}
→ {{RQ:Camden Holland Britain}}
{{RQ:Shelton Don Quixote}}
→ {{RQ:Cervantes Shelton Don Quixote}}
{{RQ:CPD}}
→ {{RQ:Critical Pronouncing Dictionary}}
{{RQ:Dickens UT}}
→ {{RQ:Dickens Uncommercial Traveller}}
{{RQ:Goldsmith The Traveller}}
→ {{RQ:Goldsmith Traveller}}
Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 18:27, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
While looking at our entry for hātan, I noticed a curious omission. exceptionally, Old English hatan retains synthetic passive forms (first/third person singular hātte, second person singular hāttest, plural hātton, unmarked for tense), but they are missing from {{ang-conj}}
. It could be argued that they're better left out of the template due to their anomality, but I'm unconvinced by such a hypothetical argument, as there is ample precedent for the inclusion of forms exclusive to a verb or a limited number of them in conjugation tables. Another possible solution would be making some sort of specialised conjugation table, but that seems somewhat inelegant. Given your work on {{ang-conj}}
and Module:ang-verb, could you change {{ang-conj}}
so it can accomodate the passive forms? (Feel free to dismiss this if you don't think it's worth handling these in {{ang-conj}}
.) Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 12:35, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
{{ang-verb}}
to display these forms; I meant to refer to the conjugation table/{{ang-conj}}
. As for hāttest, it's attested in line 3 of the Nine Herbs Charm. Hazarasp (parlement · werkis) 02:24, 30 January 2022 (UTC)Hi. Can you please stop deleting template redirects? Notusbutthem (talk) 12:20, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
Chuck Entz (talk) 13:26, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Could we send the bot to remove any *'s before {{pl-p}}
? it's a small thing but increases consistency. Vininn126 (talk) 14:38, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
I went through the non-lemmas and added pl-p to the ones that needed extra care. The rest I think we can apply (because we're gonna work on not splitting liquids in the IPA module itself). Vininn126 (talk) 14:09, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
{{pl-p}}
(without params) added to the remaining non-lemma pages without pronunciation? Just checking to make sure. I did a test run of this and it output 4 warnings: User:Benwing2/pl-p-non-lemma-warnings-2 These are due to the Pronunciation section being under Etymology 1 instead of at top level. Benwing2 (talk) 01:18, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Fuller Good thoughts in bad times}}
, {{RQ:Fuller Good Thoughts in Bad Times}}
→ {{RQ:Fuller Good Thoughts}}
{{RQ:Fuller Worthies}}
→ {{RQ:Fuller Worthies of England}}
{{RQ:Glanvill SS}}
→ {{RQ:Glanvill Scepsis Scientifica}}
{{RQ:Herbert Travels}}
→ {{RQ:Herbert Travaile}}
{{RQ:Jonson Cynthia}}
→ {{RQ:Jonson Cynthia's Revels}}
{{RQ:Holland Livy}}
→ {{RQ:Livy Holland Romane Historie}}
{{RQ:Holland Pliny}}
→ {{RQ:Pliny Holland Historie of the World}}
{{RQ:Holland Moralia}}
→ {{RQ:Plutarch Holland Morals}}
Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 12:41, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
There's a small handful of alternative sections using nonstandard layouts, like siogun, could we fix that? Vininn126 (talk) 19:28, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
{{wikipedia|lang=pl}}
changed to {{wp|lang=pl}}
? Vininn126 (talk) 11:19, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
{{gloss}}
to {{gl}}
? Vininn126 (talk) 11:33, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
{{alt}}
in place of {{l}}
or whatever, but maybe you meant something else? Benwing2 (talk) 08:44, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
@Benwing2: I will skip Polish for now until you let me know you are ready. --Derbeth talk 20:10, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
{{de-proper noun}}
accelThere is acceleration support for the genitive but not for the plural, which can generate misleading entries as in the case of Auerbach. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 07:01, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
{{inflection of|de|Abschlußfeier||nom//gen//dat//acc|p}}
now instead of the old {{plural of|de|Abschlußfeier}}
. For nouns that have a distinct dative plural form, this is arguably an improvement (but not universally standard on Wiktionary; I've always understood {{plural of}}
to mean "nominative indefinite plural", i.e. the default parameters); for nouns that are identical in the plural in all cases I think we should keep using {{plural of}}
. What do you think? — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 08:30, 10 February 2022 (UTC){{plural of}}
when all cases of the plural have the same form (although in other situations I'd prefer to spell out which cases of the plural a given form goes with). I will have to hack module:accel/de to recognize something like {{inflection of|de|Abschlußfeier||nom//gen//dat//acc|p}}
and convert it to {{plural of|de|Abschlußfeier}}
. Benwing2 (talk) 05:30, 15 February 2022 (UTC)apparently some people use pipes in plain text to mark separate lines in quotes- when you wrap that text in a template, you get rather strange results. I fixed a few module errors by substituting "|", but you might have a more elegant solution.
At any rate, there might very well be an entry or two that had only two lines separated by a single pipe, in which case the two lines would have become the 2nd and 3rd parameters without triggering any errors. I'm not sure if it's worth going over a whole bot run to look for them, but I thought I would mention it. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 06:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Have you done any work on the Ukrainian and Russian acceleration modules? I've been thinking about modifying the Polish one to include more parts of speech besides superlative forms. Vininn126 (talk) 10:46, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
{{pl-conj-ai}}
and {{pl-conj-ap}}
. Benwing2 (talk) 02:39, 10 February 2022 (UTC)Given that most editors either don't care much, or support it, I suppose you can run the bot to switch the bor's and der's and such to +'s in Polish entries. I'm sure this is something you already have accounted for, but it should be able to account for when the template is in the middle of the sentence and add nocap=1, and ofc any gloss text within the template. Vininn126 (talk) 00:07, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi. As you might already be aware, ]]
does not work and does not link correctly. Given that no page can start with ]]
is always meant to give “” as output. Is this something you (or anyone) can possibly solve? —Svārtava 15:20, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Hey! Would you be willing to have your bot add
===Further reading=== * {{R:pl:WSJP}} * {{R:PWN}}
to all the lemmas? Some links will be dead, but there are good argument to doing so:
1) if the word hasn't been added yet to either, PWN at least has a corpus.
2) Both update regularly, particularly WSJP, but certain loan-words have been added in recent time, so while it might not exist now, it will.
3) Because they will eventually be added to those two dictionaries, adding links to both on all lemmas would create a level of consistency.
Here's how I see implementing this:
1) Some pages will have neither, so adding the text exactly would be what the bot has two do.
2) some will only have one link, namely PWN, so adding the other should be done (and in fact, the bot might be able to replace the existing text with this)
3) Some will have one of these (again, probably just PWN) and some other third link to another dictionary, in which case that third link should be set at the bottom of these two.
It would be really nice if we could get the order of these two the same on each page as well, i.e. WSJP first, then PWN. Thanks! Vininn126 (talk) 08:41, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
{{rfap|pl}}
from lemmas? It's now handled by pl-p. Once that's done I can tell Derbeth to run the audio bot. Vininn126 (talk) 18:04, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
{{R:PWN}}
to {{R:pl:PWN}}
for consistency with the other template(s)? Benwing2 (talk) 06:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
{{R:Plevačová:1978}}
and {{R:PWN-URL}}
; all the rest have a language code in them. Benwing2 (talk) 06:58, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
{{l|en}}
's on non-shared pages with ]'s? On shared pages I think we're gonna keep using l|en. Also, another lemma we could skip are the verbal nouns. PWN usually has a link to Doroszewski's, but it's such a barren entry that it doesn't seem worth it. Vininn126 (talk) 16:53, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
{{rfap|pl}}
. There were 457 lemma pages with this on it (as of the dump from 5 days ago), and 4 non-lemma pages with it (as of a dump from Jan 29). 08:17, 27 February 2022 (UTC){{l|en}}
in definitions because theoretically one could thereby track missing English entries, as was the case for Polish klipa linking to klippe. Fay Freak (talk) 23:15, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
I replied on Wiktionary:Grease_pit/2022/January#Wikipedias_of_dead_languages. Just wanted to make sure you saw it. 70.172.194.25 02:57, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi Benwing, really appreciate the stuff you're doing, but this is in my opinion misleading; nominalized Gleiche can be all the same forms as gleiche (e.g. der/die/das Gleiche), so perhaps the entries of nominalized adjectives should look like the ones for their adjectival counterparts (gleiche, große, schöne ... ), only with "nominalization of..." instead of "inflection of..."? --Akletos (talk) 14:49, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
::===Noun=== ::{{head|de|noun form|g=n}} ::# {{inflection of|de|Gleicher||str|nom//acc|p|;|wk|nom//acc|s}} ::# {{inflection of|de|Gleiches||str|nom//acc|p|;|wk|nom//acc|s}} :: Akletos (talk) 08:20, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
@Akletos Yup, looks right although I might use two separate ===Noun=== headers as the lemmas are different. Benwing2 (talk) 08:38, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello! What would be the correct inflection here? (as on the German Wiktionary page there are three different cases ...) LinguisticMystic (talk) 18:17, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Boyle Considerations touching the Usefulness of Experimental Natural Philosophy}}
, {{RQ:Boyle Usefulness}}
→ {{RQ:Boyle Experimental Natural Philosophy}}
{{RQ:Darwin Zoonomia}}
→ {{RQ:Erasmus Darwin Zoonomia}}
{{RQ:Shelley Prometheus}}
→ {{RQ:Shelley Prometheus Unbound}}
{{RQ:South 12}}
→ {{RQ:South Twelve Sermons}}
{{RQ:Speed History}}
→ {{RQ:Speed Historie of Great Britaine}}
{{RQ:Thackeray Roundabout}}
, {{RQ:Thackeray RP}}
→ {{RQ:Thackeray Roundabout Papers}}
Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 19:39, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Would it be possible to regenerate this list? I clicked around on a couple of articles but most of them seemed to have been taken care of already. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 09:36, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Chaucer Canterbury}}
(to be retained as a shortcut) → {{RQ:Chaucer Canterbury Tales}}
{{RQ:BFCT}}
(to be retained as a shortcut) --> {{RQ:Beaumont Fletcher Comedies and Tragedies}}
{{RQ:Marston Scourge of Villainy}}
, {{RQ:Marston Scourge of Villany}}
, {{RQ:Marston The Scourge of Villainy}}
→ {{RQ:Marston Scourge of Villanie}}
{{RQ:Thackeray A Shabby Genteel Story}}
, {{RQ:Thackeray Shabby}}
→ {{RQ:Thackeray Shabby Genteel Story}}
{{RQ:Thackeray The Virginians}}
→ {{RQ:Thackeray Virginians}}
{{RQ:Watts Logic}}
→ {{RQ:Watts Logick}}
Also, it has been pointed out to me that some documentation pages for quotation templates refer to "Wikipedia entry pages" (or possibly "Wikipedia entries") instead of "Wiktionary entry pages" ("Wiktionary entries"). Could you fix these too? Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 20:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
I feel bad for spamming you with requests so feel free to ignore this. As you've recently completely revamped (or rather revolutionized) the treatment of German adjectival nouns, it would be really convenient if there were an easier way to generate the nonlemmas. Guten, for instance, should have three sections: It is a nonlemma of all Guter m, Gute f, and Gutes n. The lemmas however don't have green links. Being an admin, I could of course just temporarily delete them (diff), but that's not nice as it muddies the page history and fills the log unnecessarily. I think a nicer solution would be something akin to {{de-adj form of}}
: A "hit-and-run" template that automatically expands to the correct inflected forms. The only difference is that {{de-adj form of}}
links to the ending-less adjective, whereas we lemmatize adjectival nouns with -er, -e and -es respectively. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 11:41, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
to add, as you describe it, ===Further reading=== section to Polish lemma with {{R:pl:WSJP}}
and {{R:pl:PWN}}
, to all Polish entries, which you do for about an hour now, even if it is only an altform entry, and even if there is no entry? Both the case for e.g. blajgiel and its alternative forms. I would think you could get a feedback from the webpage concerning whether a queried entry exists. Or did somebody opine that one should have these links so one can check whether they have an entry even if they have none? Fay Freak (talk) 23:02, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
I think this was a mistake done by your bot: ; it put a header template into the Declension section. LinguisticMystic (talk) 15:39, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Would you mind running your bot to add some further reading templates to German articles? If you want to do this, I'll list the exact constraints, but be advised that it involves fetching a website for every single potentially added template (to judge whether to add the template or not). It would also be great if the job could run continuously, i.e. also add them to future article that lack them. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 15:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
{{de-adecl}}
and the new {{de-adj}}
(which I haven't made live yet); the plan is to make {{de-adj}}
work the same as {{de-adecl}}
, similarly to {{de-noun}}
and {{de-ndecl}}
. Benwing2 (talk) 06:15, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
curl url -A "credible user agent"
so that you don't have to learn a new API. I personally use libcurl in C++ for my web stuff.{{de-adecl}}
sounds great! I lost count of the times I had to visit Category:German_adjective_inflection-table_templates just to find out how the correct one is called... If you need any help (e.g. if there's another tracking category to clean up), don't hesitate to ping me. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 13:38, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Ford LS}}
→ {{RQ:John Ford Loues Sacrifice}}
{{RQ:Ford Whore}}
→ {{RQ:John Ford Whore}}
{{RQ:Milton Smec}}
→ {{RQ:Milton Smectymnuus}}
{{RQ:Prescott History of the Reign of Philip II}}
, {{RQ:Prescott History of the Reign of Phillip II}}
, {{RQ:Prescott Phillip}}
→ {{RQ:Prescott Philip 2}}
Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 17:39, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
{{RQ:Prescott Philip 2}}
don’t seem to have happened? — SGconlaw (talk) 22:23, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
{{RQ:Prescott History of the Reign of Philip II}}
, {{RQ:Prescott History of the Reign of Phillip II}}
or {{RQ:Prescott Phillip}}
didn't get converted. Maybe you converted them by hand? Benwing2 (talk) 03:42, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
There are 13 edits in CAT:E because of your bot runs. Most of them are because you forgot to allow for escaping "=". Even though your bot was the last to edit there, the error at B is probably due to an edit somewhere else propagating through to the entry via transclusion (it's been intermittently out of memory in recent weeks). Chuck Entz (talk) 01:48, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Bacon Apophthegms}}
→ {{RQ:Bacon Apophthegmes}}
{{RQ:Boyle New Experiments Physico-Mechanical}}
→ {{RQ:Boyle New Experiments}}
{{RQ:Burton 1000}}
→ {{RQ:R. F. Burton Arabian Nights}}
{{RQ:Derham Physico}}
→ {{RQ:Derham Physico-Theology}}
{{RQ:Goldsmith The Deserted Village}}
→ {{RQ:Goldsmith Deserted Village}}
{{RQ:Grafton A Chronicle at Large}}
→ {{RQ:Grafton Chronicle}}
{{RQ:More Explanation}}
→ {{RQ:More Godliness}}
{{RQ:Prescott FAI}}
→ {{RQ:Prescott Ferdinand and Isabella}}
{{RQ:Robinson Utopia}}
, {{RQ:Robynson Utopia}}
→ {{RQ:More Robinson Utopia}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Antony}}
(to be retained as a shortcut) → {{RQ:Shakespeare Antony and Cleopatra}}
{{RQ:Spenser Fairy}}
→ {{RQ:Spenser Faerie Queene}}
{{RQ:Warburton Divine}}
→ {{RQ:Warburton Divine Legation}}
{{RQ:Woodward NHE}}
→ {{RQ:Woodward Natural History}}
Also, the 1st edition of {{RQ:Browne Pseudodoxia Epidemica}}
is now available, so that should be made the default version used by the template. Would it be possible to do the following?
|edition=2nd
to uses of the template that do not have the |edition=
parameter; then|edition=1st
from any uses of the template.Thank you. — SGconlaw (talk) 15:03, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
{{RQ:Browne Pseudodoxia Epidemica}}
, just checking to make sure you want this done; there are around 360 uses of this template and only 9 have |edition=1st
, so all the remainder would get |edition=2nd
added. Are you planning on reviewing them manually to switch them to the 1st edition? Benwing2 (talk) 00:17, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
{{RQ:Browne Pseudodoxia Epidemica}}
, yes, I think please go ahead and do the replacement. As there are so many uses of the template, I think it would take a long time to manually review and switch them over to the 1st edition so it's better to mark the existing uses as |edition=2nd
and to remove |edition=1st
. I'll then update the template and make it switch over to using the 1st edition as the default. — Sgconlaw (talk) 11:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)It'll save you, SG and myself all lots of time if we just kept the redirects, you know. Notusbutthem (talk) 10:55, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Or do Template:RQ:Shakespeare Antony and Cleopatra again Notusbutthem (talk) 17:03, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
{{RQ:Shakespeare Antony and Cleopatra}}
as the full template name, and {{RQ:Shakespeare Antony}}
retained as a shortcut. — SGconlaw (talk) 18:10, 19 March 2022 (UTC)Hello Benwing2,
I was trying to localize your new "" into Hungarian, but I ran into the following problem: The module categorizes nouns by genders, which is good, but when generating category names it uses the POS name, which is "nouns" in the English version, but must be "főnevek" in the Hungarian version. The problem arised from the fact that it gets the POS tag directly from the method name, which in turn gets it from the module parameter in the template. I was trying to modify these accordingly, but was unable to get it working since method names cannot use accented strings, e.g. "főnevek". Do you have a suggestion of a possible workaround for this issue? LinguisticMystic (talk) 14:10, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
pos_functions.nouns = function(class, args, data, proper)
was changed to pos_functions = function(class, args, data, proper)
LinguisticMystic (talk) 20:58, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
foo
, foo.bar
and foo
are equivalent, but the latter is more general because Lua does not allow accented characters in the foo.bar
format (analogously, variable names in Lua cannot have accented characters in them). Benwing2 (talk) 03:16, 31 May 2022 (UTC){{suffix}}
, {{prefix}}
(and their short forms suf/pre), and {{compound}}
with {{af}}
. I'm also wondering if we should switch related and derived terms with {{col4}}
. I would like y'all's input. I'm not the biggest fan of col4, but some people don't mind it, and it would be technically easier. it would also automatically alphabetize and could absorb part of speech information. Vininn126 (talk) 16:08, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
{{col4}}
. I don't know why but I don't see why it should be used. But yeah, we definitely should start replace all {{suffix}}
and {{temp|prefix} with {{af}}
. It's easier and works the same way. Tashi (talk) 16:38, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
{{prefix}}
/{{suffix}}
/etc. to {{affix}}
. I wrote it a couple of years ago and haven't run it very much but I can go ahead and do it for Polish lemmas. Benwing2 (talk) 20:40, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
{{wgping}}
. Benwing2 (talk) 20:43, 14 May 2022 (UTC){{affix}}
but to {{af}}
though OwO uWu >w< But thank you!!11!!11!111 Shumkichi (talk) 00:08, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
The documentation for {{place}}
says that the language code is supposed to be that of the entry. But that leads to orange links, as in Condate. What corrective action is supposed to be taken in the entry or in the target? If none, then can the orange color be replaced with blue or the template not be so applied? DCDuring (talk) 15:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
{{place|la|town|p/la:Gallia Lugdunensis}}
So, regarding this comment you've made on one of my older page creations.
Why is it that there are not multisyllabic jyutping entries? I mean, while sometimes you can come across some multisyllabic POJ or even pinyin, why isn't it the case for jyutping? (They're all romanization systems for those three different Chinese varieties all of which are the most widely spoken) Would like to hear your thoughts on this - thank you! AverageSampoernaAEnjoyer (talk) 08:26, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed you made an old edit indicating that the mentioned word is used in Literary Arabic, but you're making me doubt myself. Actually, this form appears in Egyptian Arabic, like تعبان سقعان عريان... compared to Literary Arabic versions تعب بارد متعرى. I don't know if you heard someone speaking Literary Arabic saying it, but if it happened, he must have been code-switching. Thanks. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 20:46, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
welcome back! —Svārtava (t/u) • 07:41, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi, and welcome back. I've noticed you converted the small number of sigmatic inflections I missed after I managed to get it added to the {{inflection of}}
template. I just wanted to say that that template also now supports futp
for the future perfect, so as to link to the definition directly. Would you be willing to use WingerBot to convert all of the inflections? Theknightwho (talk) 20:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
futp
, maybe there is a way to make the module itself link to the definition appropriately even when fut|perf
is given. I think support for this sort of thing already exists. Let me look into it. Benwing2 (talk) 20:36, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
{{la-conj}}
with the subtype sigm
and (in a tiny number of cases) sigmpasv
. It affects about 100 verbs. Theknightwho (talk) 21:02, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
{{inflection of}}
and it's a long script (about 2,000 lines of Python) doing several things, but I think what's happening here is that it sees that there's a known tag with a raw link and removes the link. BTW I added the Wikidata item for "future perfect" and put futp
as the first shortcut so it is considered the canonical one. It looks like there isn't an existing way to map two tags to one, so I'll see about running the conversion to futp
. Benwing2 (talk) 23:08, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
{{la-adecl}}
- in most cases when a form is used in the masculine, feminine and neuter of a particular case, the acceleration only adds the masculine and neuter to the non-lemma entry. Have a look at these and you'll see what I mean:
Hiya - sorry to bother you again, but I was wondering if it might be possible for WingerBot to do another task? There are quite a few instances where certain Latin forms haven't been created for a particular lemma because they happen to be the same as an inflection of a different Latin lemma (e.g. related nouns, verbs and participles). They're a bit faffier to create, as they're not supported by acceleration, and a lot more difficult to spot due to not showing up as uncreated on the table. I was wondering if this is something that WingerBot might be able to sort?
I appreciate that this would need some planning first so that we don't end up creating thousands of dud forms that shouldn't actually exist due to incorrect template parameters, but it might be worth setting some kind of threshold whereby the bot only does this if more than X% of forms already exist. That way, it would avoid any lemmas which could probably do with manual oversight first. Obviously there will still be some false positives, but those already need sorting anyway. Theknightwho (talk) 14:37, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Here's the next batch:
{{RQ:Bacon Of Building}}
, {{RQ:Bacon Of Cunning}}
, {{RQ:Bacon Of Death}}
, {{RQ:Bacon Of Discourse}}
, {{RQ:Bacon Of Innovations}}
, {{RQ:Bacon Of Nature in Men}}
({{RQ:Bacon Of Nature In Men}}
), {{RQ:Bacon Of Revenge}}
, {{RQ:Bacon Of Riches}}
, {{RQ:Bacon Of the True Greatness of Kingdoms and Estates}}
({{RQ:Bacon Of Kingdoms and Estates}}
, {{RQ:Bacon Of The True Greatness}}
) → {{RQ:Bacon Essayes}}
{{RQ:Bacon Of the True Greatness of Kingdoms and Estates}}
→ {{RQ:Bacon Essayes|chapter=Of the True Greatness of Kingdoms and Estates}}
.{{RQ:Joseph Hall Self-Conferences}}
, {{RQ:Joseph Hall Soliloquies}}
→ {{RQ:Hall Susurrium cum Deo}}
{{RQ:Hayward Edward}}
→ {{RQ:Hayward Edward 6}}
{{RQ:Marlowe Edward II}}
→ {{RQ:Marlowe Edward 2}}
{{RQ:Sandys Travel}}
→ {{RQ:Sandys Journey}}
{{RQ:Udall Paraphrase}}
→ {{RQ:Erasmus Newe Testamente}}
(I'll add some others in the next few days.)
Also, at some stage you may wish to update User:Benwing2/english-quotation-templates-redirects. No rush. Thank you. — Sgconlaw (talk) 16:14, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
This edit caused a module error: . 98.170.164.88 04:07, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
f-s
did: . 98.170.164.88 04:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Another issue: . 70.172.194.25 12:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
{{fr-verb}}
Hi, AFAIK, the curly quotes are if not preferred, allowed on wikt. Then why did you revert my edits on ? Or did I mess something up? Cheers, H. (talk) 08:16, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
{{en-conj-simple}}
Hi Benwing! If you're after a little project (because I know you have absolutely nothing else to do around here 😉), I am thinking that it would be worthwhile to adapt {{en-conj-simple}}
to use the same syntax as {{en-verb}}
, obviously with additional parameters to allow the archaic/obsolete forms to be specified. Lua-ising it would also allow us to specify multiple alternative forms for each inflection. Thoughts? Would you rather I made a general call for input at WT:GP? This, that and the other (talk) 06:30, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
{{en-conj-simple}}
to {{en-conj}}
(which has been deleted). — Sgconlaw (talk) 20:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
{{en-conj-simple}}
. I'd rather it be deleted entirely; and I think I'm not alone, as I'm pretty sure this has come up for discussion before and some others have expressed the same opinion. The template serves no purpose other than to indicate archaic forms, as all non-archaic forms are included in the headword. It doesn't seem so useful to me to have a template like this, and on top of this, these forms aren't standardized any more and are often not attestable, meaning the template is not only of questionable utility but actively wrong in many cases. I would be strongly opposed to including this template on most or even many English verbs, and even more so to any attempt to add it by bot to English verb entries. Benwing2 (talk) 03:05, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
{{en-verb}}
(too cumbersome). In fact, it is wrong to use the template in entries that have don’t have archaic forms, as the template automatically generates the archaic forms (so we shouldn’t make the archaic forms suppressible). — Sgconlaw (talk) 04:15, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
{{en-conj-simple}}
; are you perhaps thinking of WT:RFDO#Template:en-conj, which was a different, giant template that gave a Romance-esque conjugation table with all the persons and numbers and compound tenses fully inflected? This, that and the other (talk) 07:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Regarding “clearly non-French” pronunciation you mentioned, and pinging @PUC you also ping: hami, hanout, hass, haja, hebs, and others you have not touched such as khawef: I have all actually heard from banlieue rappers, in particular from the exact raps quoted (of course: it is great for listening comprehension to pick a song and its lyrics). Since the words themselves are non-standard I do not see how this would hinder assuming this pronunciation standard (in as much as standardization can be conceptualized in the contexts of such words), the more so since the given sounds are essential for recognition. (You know also that Muslims in the US and UK pronounced the word Muslim differently from the other population, but in this case there is no other population.) An even distincter situation is present when a word is only present in African lects (counting as French), namely Nouchi which I have quoted a few times; so in words written ⟨dj⟩ like djandjou it is, rather than /d͡ʒ/, /ɟ/, though I have also heard the former and suspect individual free variation and I was unsure whether it is not something third so that I refrained from giving any IPA.
I wonder though whether we could label this lect in the cities of French-speaking Europe itself, circumscribed in the British Isles and analogously in France as talking “like a roadman”, more appropriately and as specifically as “Nouchi”, beyond hoting it “slang”.It is perhaps just the French multiethnolect but only such nerds as us who edit Wiktionary in their free time know this word and if there is one for the French ones it has elapsed me. It also was only from someone just dropping the term in the Wiktionary main and category namespaces that I have come to know about Multicultural Toronto English—though long recognizing parallels to the UK and Ireland multiethnolects—, which is also basically a single linguist’s term.
Principally by the way the same standards apply to German, natively and by French borrowings (I have created stuff like Flus, and I have heard other Oriental borrowings like zébi passed via French into German using the vulgar route).
By the way there are a few glossaries particularly concerned with such words and Dictionnaire de la Zone often offers both audio and IPA, so in the case of hèbs, coherent with my statement regarding it, although I hear /ħ/ and not /x/ even particularly in the infamous Morsay piece they include. Fay Freak (talk) 02:05, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi, could you have WingerBot re-shorten the i in the inflected forms of orichalcum and aurichalcum? The short i vowel seems to be unambiguously attested in verse for the spelling with o, and although I haven't found conclusive metrical evidence one way or another for the spelling with au, L&S and Gaffiot 2016 give it as having short i as well (according to Logeion). If there is evidence aside from the Greek form ὀρείχαλκος for a long vowel in Latin, it'd be worth adding to the entries so that readers can come to an informed conclusion about this somewhat tricky pronunciation question.--Urszag (talk) 06:08, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi! I'd look to put an impersonal bit in Template:es-verb, because caer chuzos de punta shouldn't have first-person singular conjugations in the head line. Is there any way to do this? Zumbacool (talk) 14:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
<only3s>
but the template didn't display things quite correctly; I fixed that. Benwing2 (talk) 18:03, 11 June 2022 (UTC)Can you keep this redirect? Zumbacool (talk) 17:34, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Especially enjoying the stress positions for Italian conjugation charts. Nicodene (talk) 04:32, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
E.g. https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Samoa_am%C3%A9ricaines&diff=next&oldid=67047488 —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:33, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
{{place}}
automatically put translations of countries and other such place names into the corresponding place categories by matching the translation. Let me see if I can get to that. Benwing2 (talk) 05:37, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
{{place}}
as I mentioned above. I periodically do runs to delete empty categories that are handled by {{auto cat}}
. I also periodically do runs to create non-empty categories that are handled by {{auto cat}}
and haven't yet been created, so categories like Category:zh:United States Virgin Islands will get created automatically in time. Benwing2 (talk) 05:49, 24 June 2022 (UTC)It was a nice idea to add the stress to the conjugated forms. The only thing is, I've noticed that the first-person present conditional ending is given as -éi, and I believe it's usually -èi. GianWiki (talk) 00:28, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
{{gsw-noun}}
(I know that I've asked you for a lot of assistance this year so please feel entirely free to ignore this.)
Hey, do you think it is possible to generalize Module:de-noun so that it can also serve as a base for other MHG descendants? Alternatively, would you be fine with me forking the entire German infrastructure and just throwing out the things that are not needed? — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 17:31, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi, here's the next batch:
{{RQ:Chapman Eastward Ho}}
→ {{RQ:Chapman Eastward Hoe}}
{{RQ:South 5}}
→ {{RQ:South Five Volumes}}
(I'll be adding additional requests from time to time.)
Also, let's move ahead with making the 1st edition of {{RQ:Browne Pseudodoxia Epidemica}}
the default version used by the template by:
|edition=2nd
to uses of the template that do not have the |edition=
parameter; then|edition=1st
from any uses of the template.Thank you. — Sgconlaw (talk) 17:41, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
{{RQ:Browne Pseudodoxia Epidemica}}
to default to the 1st edition, but I already changed the doc page. Benwing2 (talk) 00:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
I wasn’t able to categorize the entries Assuwa and Asia (sense 5) as historical polities even though I attempted to do it properly. Could you fix it? Thanks! ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 03:20, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi, could you also fix British Central Africa? ‘protectorate’ needs to be set as a placetype, and the def also contains the colonial demonym British. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 00:14, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Hey Benwing. Could you please remove the manual categorization ]
in the entries that already have {{lb|gmw-ecg|Erzgebirgisch}}
(see e.g. sappn)? I've just changed the label module (diff). Thanks in advance! — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 11:15, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Hello. Could you create the following two templates for pseudo-acronyms: {{pseudo-acronym}}
(etymology template) and {{pseudo-acronym of}}
(definition template)? Thank you! ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 05:26, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
{{pseudo-acronym of}}
needs its examples fixed. (Also, {{pseudo-acronym}}
could have more examples.) Can you help with these? Thanks! Benwing2 (talk) 06:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
{{pseudo-acronym}}
as it’s used in the etymology section? ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 13:26, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Did you say you had a script for converting entries to feminine equivalent of? It seems we will be making the switch on Polish entries. Could you modify the script so as to absorb the link into t=, but remove the "female" text? So we end up with a format like on biochemiczka. Vininn126 (talk) 20:53, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
|m=
removed from the {{pl-noun}}
headword? (2) For entries like bandurzysta with definitions like male ]
, are these definitely male or should the definition actually read more like ] {{q|male or of unspecified gender}}
? Benwing2 (talk) 04:02, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
# ] {{gl|female}} # {{lb|pl|dated}} ] ] ] # female ] # {{lb|pl|historical}} female ] {{gl|someone in favor of lifting slavery}} # female ] {{gl|someone who avoids fulfilling her societal obligations}} # ] {{gl|female person}} # {{lb|pl|neologism|colloquial}} ] ] who listens to ] and dresses unconventionally # {{lb|pl|education}} female ], female ] person # ] {{gl|female}} {{gl|an ] {{gl|female}} of ], the ] of the ] of ]}}. # {{lb|pl|relational|law}} ], a female ] party # {{lb|pl|Łódź}} A female ], ] ]. # female ], ] {{gl|one who chats or gossips}} # female ], ], ]er
It will take some work to figure out how to handle all these cases and what to do with them. So I'm thinking of rewriting all of them like this:
# {{femeq|pl|Abchaz}}: ] {{gl|female}} # {{lb|pl|dated}} {{femeq|pl|abecadlarz}}: ] ] ] # {{femeq|pl|abnegat}}: female ] # {{lb|pl|historical}} {{femeq|pl|abolicjonista}}: female ] {{gl|someone in favor of lifting slavery}} etc.
What do you think? If you'd rather put the definition inside the {{femeq}}
, that's OK too, but you'll have to specify at least for the cases above how you want each one handled. Benwing2 (talk) 00:38, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
# {{femeq|pl|Abchaz|t=]}} # {{lb|pl|dated}} {{femeq|pl|abecadlarz|t=] ]}} # {{femeq|pl|abnegat|t=]}} # {{lb|pl|historical}} {{femeq|pl|abolicjonista|t=]}} {{gl|someone in favor of lifting slavery}}
# ] {{gl|female}} # {{lb|pl|dated}} ] ] ] # female ] # {{lb|pl|historical}} female ] {{gl|someone in favor of lifting slavery}} # female ] {{gl|someone who avoids fulfilling her societal obligations}} # ] {{gl|female person}} # {{lb|pl|neologism|colloquial}} ] ] who listens to ] and dresses unconventionally # {{lb|pl|education}} female ], female ] person # ] {{gl|female}} {{gl|an ] {{gl|female}} of ], the ] of the ] of ]}}. # {{lb|pl|relational|law}} ], a female ] party # {{lb|pl|Łódź}} A female ], ] ]. # female ], ] {{gl|one who chats or gossips}} # female ], ], ]er
# {{femeq|pl|Abchaz|t=]}} # {{lb|pl|dated}} {{femeq|pl|abecadlarz|t=] ]}} # {{femeq|pl|abnegat|t=]}} # {{lb|pl|historical}} {{femeq|pl|abolicjonista|t=]}} {{gl|someone in favor of lifting slavery}} # {{femeq|pl|absenteista|t=]}} {{gl|someone who avoids fulfilling her societal obligations}} # {{femeq|pl|albinos|t=]}} # {{lb|pl|education}} {{femeq|pl|analfabetka|t=]}} # {{femeq|pl|andorczyk|t=]}} # {{lb|pl|relational|law}} {{femeq|pl|amnestionowany|t=] party}} # {{lb|pl|Łódź}} {{femeq|pl|badylarz|t=], ] ]}} # {{femeq|pl|bajczarz|t=], ]}} {{gl|one who chats or gossips}} # {{femeq|pl|bajerant|t=], ], ]er}} {{gl|one who chats or gossips}}
|m=
parameter. Benwing2 (talk) 06:31, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
{{femeq}}
gloss. Also, sometimes the text inside of {{gl}}
describes the generic meaning and sometimes the female-specific meaning, which maybe should be cleaned up. The full list of changes is here: User:Benwing2/convert-pl-femeq-male.replacing Also, it output 515 warnings, see User:Benwing2/convert-pl-femeq-male.warnings. Most (436) of them are blocking, i.e. my script refused to change the line in question after seeing the warning, but some of them (the remaining 79, labeled "will continue") are non-blocking, and indicate places where the female equivalent should be added to the headword of a male term (e.g. in analizator, Arab, bachrocz, poznaniak, ...). The reasons for the warnings are various. In some cases the changes could potentially be made in any case, but I wasn't sure so I didn't make them. An example of this is terms with gender m-an
instead of m-pr
. Some of them refer to animals (e.g. badylarz, baranek, kocur, ...) , where they may actually refer only to male animals; others are mistakes that should be changed to m-pr
(e.g. abolicjonista). There are also places where two headword templates occur in the same section; in some of these, they are both on the same line, which may be OK (although perhaps they should still be combined), whereas in others, like abecadlarz, they are missing a section header. There are lots of other issues flagged as well (e.g. use of {{head|pl|noun}}
, missing |m=
in the headword of a female term, terms that are actually relational adjectives, situations where a template call would end up inside of the {{femeq}}
gloss (which may or may not be OK), etc. Benwing2 (talk) 03:25, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Page 15513 fajtłapa: WARNING: Saw male line without f= (will continue): headt={{pl-noun|m-pr}}, line=# {{lb|pl|derogatory}} male inept person, bungler
Page 15513 fajtłapa: WARNING: Saw female line without m=: headt={{pl-noun|f}}, line=# {{lb|pl|derogatory}} inept person, bungler {{gl|female}}
{{femeq}}
, but the gloss inside of {{femeq}}
should refer to the male equivalent (e.g. stallion if that's what the male equivalent of mare means). For cases like biolog I think what is currently there is fine, with two headwords, one using {{femeq}}
. 17:10, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Can you give me an example of a line that didn't get changed, and how it ought to look? My bot didn't specifically ignore female animals; it did ignore male animals, on the theory that maybe the term really does refer to the male of the species and shouldn't have the word 'male' removed. Benwing2 (talk) 16:26, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Could you please fix this error? 98.170.164.88 03:54, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
I got rid of the module error by passing k*cken (or f*cken, respectively) as the first parameter to the headword template, but this causes the headword to display improperly. Is there a better fix? CC User:Fytcha. 98.170.164.88 03:01, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
{{head|de|verb}}
here. If User:Fytcha can think of a better solution, I may be able to implement it. Benwing2 (talk) 03:04, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
{{head}}
works too. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 03:13, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
I don't quite see why this was done. With Category:Verlan being a subcat of Category:French back slang, all the terms are now redundantly categorized into a category as well as its parent which is usually category smell. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 11:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
{{lb|fr|verlan|back slang}}
or similar so I wanted to preserve that; but feel free to change it, I think your logic is sound. Benwing2 (talk) 16:28, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
{{desc}}
Hello. As far as I’ve understood, {{desc}}
is now changing to allow multiple terms, but is therefore switching out |3=
and |4=
with |alt=
and |t=
. My concerns are about changing the |4=
parameter. Why not use the same solution as {{alter}}
, which also allows multiple terms? After all, it’s more convenient, and seems to be the norm throughout the various link templates (i.e. writing the gloss after a double vertical bar). Eilífr / ᛅᛁᛚᛁᚠᚱ 09:39, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
{{alter}}
uses a blank term, but what comes after the blank term is not a gloss, but a set of descriptions that apply collectively to all terms, where a description can be a qualifier like "rare" or "archaic", a dialect label, etc. Glosses must be added to terms using |t=
, |t2=
, etc., exactly as will be the case for {{desc}}
. Note that {{desc|LANG|foo|t=gloss}}
is only one character more than {{desc|LANG|foo||gloss}}
. It is possible to support the {{desc|LANG|foo||gloss}}
format along with multiple terms, but (a) it's hacky, (b) it supports only one term and associated gloss, (c) it doesn't allow for an alternative/display form to be given in |3=
. My plan instead is to throw an error if the {{desc|LANG|foo||gloss}}
format is used, with a descriptive message indicating that you should use |t=
instead. I am also thinking of supporting the inline modifier format usable by {{syn}}
/{{ant}}
/etc. and by {{col2}}
/{{col3}}
/{{col4}}
/{{der2}}
/{{der3}}
/{{der4}}
/etc. In this format, instead of using separate params like {{desc|LANG|foo|bar|baz|t3=gloss|bat|t4=other_gloss|g4=f,n}}
you add the params as inline modifiers e.g. {{desc|LANG|foo|bar|baz<t:gloss>|bat<t:other_gloss><g:f,n>}}
. This way you don't have to keep track of the number of terms in question, which is especially helpful if there are a large number of them. Benwing2 (talk) 01:16, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Burton Arabian Nights}}
→ {{RQ:R. F. Burton Arabian Nights}}
{{RQ:Anne Brontë Agnes Grey}}
→ {{RQ:Anne Bronte Agnes Grey}}
{{RQ:Brontë Wuthering Heights}}
→ {{RQ:Emily Bronte Wuthering Heights}}
{{RQ:Dickens Dombey}}
(to be retained as a shortcut) → {{RQ:Dickens Dombey and Son}}
{{RQ:Dryden Aeneid}}
→ {{RQ:Dryden Aeneis}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Two Noble Kinsmen}}
→ {{RQ:Fletcher Shakespeare Two Noble Kinsmen}}
{{RQ:Florio Essays}}
, {{RQ:Florio Montaigne Essayes}}
→ {{RQ:Montaigne Florio Essayes}}
{{RQ:Jonson A Tale of a Tub}}
→ {{RQ:Jonson Tale of a Tub}}
{{RQ:Jonson Every Man out of his Humour}}
→ {{RQ:Jonson Every Man out of His Humour}}
{{RQ:Jonson Underwood}}
, {{RQ:Jonson Under-woods}}
→ {{RQ:Jonson Underwoods}}
{{RQ:Landor IC}}
→ {{RQ:Landor Imaginary Conversations}}
{{RQ:Macaulay History}}
→ {{RQ:Macaulay History of England}}
{{RQ:Milton L'Allegro}}
→ {{RQ:Milton Poems|poem=L'Allegro}}
{{RQ:Milton Tetra}}
, {{RQ:Milton Tet}}
→ {{RQ:Milton Tetrachordon}}
{{RQ:Golding Metamorphosis}}
→ {{RQ:Ovid Golding Metamorphosis}}
{{RQ:Raleigh War in General}}
→ {{RQ:Raleigh War}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Passionate Pilgrim}}
→ {{RQ:Passionate Pilgrime}}
{{RQ:Shakeseare Tempest}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Tempest}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Timon}}
(to be retained as a shortcut) → {{RQ:Shakespeare Timon of Athens}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Verona}}
(to be retained as a shortcut) → {{RQ:Shakespeare Two Gentlemen of Verona}}
{{RQ:Holland Natural History}}
→ {{RQ:Pliny Holland Historie of the World}}
{{RQ:Prescott Philip}}
→ {{RQ:Prescott Philip 2}}
Thank you. — Sgconlaw (talk) 11:20, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
{{RQ:Milton Tet}}
to {{RQ:Milton Tetrachordon}}
. — Sgconlaw (talk) 07:41, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
{{RQ:Milton Tet}}
. Benwing2 (talk) 10:10, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Here are a batch of templates all pertaining to {{RQ:Bacon Essayes}}
. Essentially they relate to individual chapters published in the same book, so there is no reason why they should be individual quotation templates. Please replace the templates like this: {{RQ:Bacon Of Plantations}}
→ {{RQ:Bacon Essayes|chapter=Of Plantations}}
.
Thank you. — Sgconlaw (talk) 13:32, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Regarding adding a usage note for reflexive forms, I think this is unnecessary. It's quite a common feature of Italian verbs to add a clitic just to convey possession instead of adding a pronoun. E.g., "Mi sono lavato le mani" ("I washed my hands") or "Le hanno rubato la borsa" ("They stole her purse"). Imetsia (talk) 19:11, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
lol, sadly, you can't stop the Wonderfool. I've seen him provide the part of speech as "Nun" instead of "Noun". Equinox ◑ 05:09, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
your bot seems to have deleted the listed diminutive and colloquial forms haphazardly on this entry https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C&type=revision&diff=59737402&oldid=59729664. Anarhistička Maca (talk) 00:39, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on supporting multiple words in {{desc}}. I noticed that there are a lot (several thousand) desc which mention multiple words using internal links, e.g.:
* {{desc|sv|], ], ], ]}}
Maybe that's something that could be cleaned up with your bot?
BTW, have you considered publishing the latest source code of your bot? — This unsigned comment was added by MartinMichlmayr (talk • contribs).
~~~~
Benwing2 (talk) 03:56, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
I noticed that you move the bor=1 parameter to the beginning of {{desc}} when you modify entries to use the new 2=, 3=. I would have thought an optional parameter like bor=1 would go to the end. I have seen both styles being used.
Is there any standard/consensus on what is more "correct"? (I know the order doesn't matter) MartinMichlmayr (talk) 03:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
{{l}}
You asked me to use alt= instead of 2= for {{desc}}.
I then wanted to use alt= for {{l}} since alt= is much nicer/clearer than 2=, but that template doesn't support the alt paramater. Could you add it, or how should I request this? MartinMichlmayr (talk) 04:03, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
{{l}}
, and if we are going to make alt= an alias for 2= we should do it everywhere or at least in many places. Benwing2 (talk) 04:05, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
{{l}}
. You could write something like {{l|en|help|helped}}
, and that would show as helped (i.e. the word “helped” linking to “help” in English). Theknightwho (talk) 04:39, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Hiya - how come you're removing the dots from the surname template? Is there a particular reason we want to do this? Theknightwho (talk) 04:10, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
{{given name}}
(and {{place}}
), which don't include the dot by default. Also, in general it's much easier to add a dot at the end than to use |nodot=
or |dot=
, which become unnecessary without an automatic dot. Benwing2 (talk) 04:13, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
{{surname}}
, making its overall format more consistent with {{given name}}
and adding several new features. Benwing2 (talk) 04:15, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
{{surname|ja|sort=みどり}}
generated A <a href="https://dictious.com/en/surname" title="">surname</a>
. For Japanese, we don't want a final dot. (We don't want initial capitalization either, but that is out of scope for this thread. :)){{surname}}
template used to automatically generate a final dot, so the call to {{surname|ja|sort=みどり}}
would have generated a final dot automatically. All the bot did was preserve the existing display; now it's more obvious that there's a final dot, but it was always there unless you used |nodot=1
. If you want I can do a bot run to remove final periods from Japanese {{surname}}
calls. Benwing2 (talk) 02:11, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
nodot=1
and the period was a bit odd.{{surname}}
in JA entries, that would be awesome if you could, thank you! I know this is scope creep, but while you're at it, any chance you could also add |A=a
to {{surname}}
?|A=a
rather than adding it because I changed {{surname}}
to default to a lowercase article when the language is other than English. Benwing2 (talk) 05:02, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi! Can you train your bot to do some template changes? Things like this to link to s:Moby-Dick (1851) US edition, as Wikisource decided to delete the redirects. Dunderdool (talk) 18:02, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
iwlinks
table in the latest DB dump. If anything, it will contain false positives. This, that and the other (talk) 23:17, 10 July 2022 (UTC)The first batch, to see how successful it is
In this edit I removed several parameters from {{desctree}}
because the module was looking for descendants sections in those entries and they had none, so it put the entry in a tracking category. I can see why @Nicodene put them there: they're all alt forms of the first Old French entry in the list. It used to be that the module would display all the alt forms next to the main descendant, but now it doesn't. Is this the way it's supposed to work now, or is something wrong? Or is it temporary while you're working on the modules? Chuck Entz (talk) 07:10, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
{{desctree}}
. I'll look into this tomorrow as it's 2am where I'm at now :) ... Benwing2 (talk) 07:12, 13 July 2022 (UTC)E.g., see -ful, which uses {{suffixsee}}
: when the triangle (▶) is clicked, it is stated that there are no “no pages or subcategories”, which is not true: Category:English words suffixed with -ful has three subcategories. J3133 (talk) 09:45, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
|pos=
as I did. — Fenakhay (حيطي · مساهماتي) 17:57, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
|pos=
, as it did previously but does not any more:derivsee
function about a month ago, but I checked this talk page with the older code and it still shows no subcategories. The actual implementation of derivsee
is a parser function that we don't have control over; maybe you need to file a Phabricator ticket, I suspect they changed something in the underlying implementation that broke this use case. Benwing2 (talk) 18:16, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Dunderdool (talk) 08:54, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Burnet Reformation}}
→ {{RQ:Burnet Church of England}}
{{RQ:Grew MRS}}
→ {{RQ:Grew Musaeum Regalis Societatis}}
{{RQ:Sandys Paraphrase}}
→ {{RQ:Sandys Psalmes}}
{{RQ:Spenser Mother Hubberd's Tale}}
→ {{RQ:Spenser Complaints|poem=Prosopoeia}}
{{RQ:Taylor Saturday Evening}}
→ {{RQ:Isaac Taylor Saturday Evening}}
Thank you. — Sgconlaw (talk) 21:49, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
{{projectlink}}
? They are {{R:Collier's}}
, {{R:New International Encyclopedia}}
, {{R:New Student's Reference Work}}
, {{R:American Cyclopedia}}
, {{R:Americana}}
, {{R:Britannica 1911}}
, {{R:Britannica 1922}}
. They are counted currently as interwiki templates (CAT:Interwiki templates) because they link to Wikisource, but maybe that's wrong. Benwing2 (talk) 21:18, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
There are some redirects which I missed, and a newly created one. Could you please carry out the following replacements?
{{RQ:Spenser Hubberd}}
, {{RQ:Spenser MH}}
, {{RQ:Spenser Mother Hubberd}}
→ {{RQ:Spenser Complaints|poem=Prosopopoia}}
{{RQ:Spenser Complaints|poem=Prosopoeia}}
→ {{RQ:Spenser Complaints|poem=Prosopopoia}}
Thank you. — Sgconlaw (talk) 04:43, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi. I want this to appear as a headword only used in third-person plural. Like the handy <only3s>. Same for caer cuatro gotas and caer chuzos de punta. Dunderdool (talk) 07:30, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
@Sarri.greek Whether or not {{el-noun-proper-form}}
was good or useful or whatever it would surely have been polite to discuss the matter with what a cursory look would have shown to be the main users. It is helpful to old and especially new editors for HWL templates to follow similar patterns. — Saltmarsh🢃 18:18, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
{{head}}
is decided. I understand too the necessity of facilitating all editors to edit all languages. ‑‑Sarri.greek ♫ I 18:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
el-*-form
templates, is this a continuation of this same discussion? Did something happen recently? In general, as you know, I think we should eliminate templates that don't do anything but wrap {{head}}
, but if we are to keep a template of this nature it should be called el-proper noun form
or maybe el-proper-noun-form
; the current template has the words in the wrong order. Benwing2 (talk) 20:32, 7 August 2022 (UTC){{el-noun-proper-form}}
13 years ago this "correct" nomenclature must have passed me by. Going from lang > POS > POSproper > form seemed logical. I'm easy about whether spaces or hyphens should be used in a name, BUT all should be changed as quickly as possible. Many el- templates don't "merely wrap" they may be shorter and are certainly more familiar to this old dog who has difficulty learning new tricks :) ! Having templates which wrap another surely do no harm, newbies can still use the generic ones.{{head}}
. I have few loose ends to sort out first. — Saltmarsh🢃 19:17, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
{{head}}
was not thorough enough. I understand the agonising effort by Benwing2 to unify hundreds, maybe thousands, of xx-head templates which are in reality no different. Only some, serve a language-specific task, like the grc-..head templates which add Declension.Categories.1.2.3 (and again, for some PoS, not all).
{{head}}
per se; rather, {{head}}
(and lots of other templates) wraps the text in the Grek
CSS class, which sets up appropriate fonts for Greek text but also on this line overrides the font style to be normal
, which prevents italics (and bold face) from having any effect. For the same reason, {{m|en|citrus}}
appears in italics (citrus) but {{m|el|Κίτρος}}
(Κίτρος (Kítros)) doesn't. It works when you write Κίτρος manually because it isn't being wrapped in this fashion. If you take out the offending line, Greek headwords display as bold by default, and also as italic if you put quotes around it like this. I really don't know why this line is present but I would be in favor of removing it. Maybe you can bring this up in the Grease Pit? Someone like User:Erutuon might know why things are the way they are. Benwing2 (talk) 03:49, 9 August 2022 (UTC)What should be the standard formatting for entries like Wessi, which can refer to both male/female? The way it is handled in that entry (2 headword lines, separated by or) looks a bit weird. If we need two headword lines, shouldn't it be handled by the template/module itself? Jberkel 19:54, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
<br>
) required. I understand that you don't want to further increase the complexity of the templates, but couldn't we have a smallish wrapper template which delegates to {{de-noun}}
and does the necessary formatting evils inside the template? It would also ensure these entries are formatted consistently. So in summary, if we need two headword lines, make it look (from an editor's perspective) like one. – Jberkel 23:02, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
{{de-noun}}
to mention these cases. – Jberkel 08:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi, i am from bnwikt. I need help with a module. {{plural of|en|saccharin}} produce plural of saccharin. For bnwikt, i need to write this as "saccharin-of plural". Question: from which module is this "of" coming from? আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 14:40, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi, I've found an error in the rollout of {{uder}}
seen at diff (I think with etymology-only codes), and another at diff with {{syn}}
absorbing text in parentheses. Ultimateria (talk) 19:59, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
{{syn}}
is pretty complicated and Italian was the first language I ran it on; I've since fixed it to better handle parens after the synonyms. There were 46 examples I found where it incorporated parenthesized text like this and I cleaned them up. I think the issue with {{uder}}
is not related to etymology-only codes but simply happens whenever the link was a raw one rather than one that used {{l}}
or {{m}}
. Let me see if I can fix these up too. Benwing2 (talk) 01:22, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
{{uder|DEST|SOURCE|-}} ]
to clean them up automatically (often the translation and/or transliteration follows the raw link, in various formats), plus several false positives like this:
From the {{uder|en|ja|-}} ] {{m|ja|にゃお|tr=nyao||meow, miaow}}.
Hi — when used with an English term (I haven't tried other langs) the term is produced in italics, not so with Greek. I assume this is an error, but I am reluctant to attempt editing Module:see. — Saltmarsh🢃 08:30, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
{{see}}
should be in italics as well. But shouldn't the "term", in all cases, be in regular text - as with {{also}}
? — Saltmarsh🢃 09:46, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
{{l}}
for that, which produces upright text. If you agree, I'll fix the code appropriately. Benwing2 (talk) 06:05, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Bronte Jane Eyre}}
, {{RQ:Charlotte Brontë Jane Eyre}}
→ {{RQ:Charlotte Bronte Jane Eyre}}
{{RQ:Dryden Palamon and Arcite}}
, {{RQ:Dryden PAA}}
→ {{RQ:Dryden Fables|chapter=Palamon and Arcite}}
{{RQ:Pope Eloisa}}
→ {{RQ:Pope Works|title=Eloisa to Abelard}}
{{RQ:Shakespeare Much Ado about Nothing}}
→ {{RQ:Shakespeare Much Ado About Nothing}}
{{RQ:Shelley Frankenstein}}
→ {{RQ:Mary Shelley Frankenstein}}
Thank you. — Sgconlaw (talk) 20:28, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
I just wanna say I noticed you did some other cleanup on Polish entries. Thanks! Vininn126 (talk) 15:43, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Hate to be annoying but would you mind, if you have the time, having a look into WT:RFDO#Undeletion_of_Category:Female_people_and_Category:Male_people again? It's relatively simple: what was formerly categorized as "{Male,Female} X" should now be categorized as "{Male,Female} people" and "X". If you're not interested or don't have the time, let me know and I'll stop pestering you about it. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 00:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
{{femeq}}
. Sorry to bother! Vininn126 (talk) 07:51, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
{{femeq}}
pages or for the masculine pages as well? Benwing2 (talk) 02:14, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Why is English "fell" through the Anglian variant? What form would we have through the West Saxon variant? https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/fiellan ПростаРечь (talk) 18:49, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Here is the next batch:
{{RQ:Hallam History}}
→ {{RQ:Hallam England}}
{{RQ:Pope IOH}}
→ {{RQ:Pope Horace}}
{{RQ:Spenser CC}}
→ {{RQ:Spenser Colin Clout}}
{{RQ:Taylor Heniaytos}}
→ {{RQ:Taylor Eniautos}}
{{RQ:Taylor 27}}
→ {{RQ:Taylor Eniautos|part=2}}
Thank you. — Sgconlaw (talk) 22:14, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Would you be willing to do a small bot job on Polish lemmas? change any instance of {{gl|a , {{gl|an and {{gl|the (with the space) to just {{gl|? Essentially I want to remove articles from glosses, us Polish editors don't add them. Vininn126 (talk) 08:21, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the period to From lines. However, I noticed at least two cases that the bot didn't handle properly (i.e. where no period should have been added). See these two reverts:
https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=VVU&diff=prev&oldid=68970000
Hopefully you can improve the detection. MartinMichlmayr (talk) 03:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
-->
; in this case there was a hidden U+200E (left-to-right marker) after the final -->
that was throwing things off. I also have a check for periods followed by various sorts of quotation markers, but I forgot to account for double and triple apostrophe markers. Benwing2 (talk) 04:18, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Did your bot just move a page? How does that work? Anyway, I am seeing a lot of red category links in old entries now like plyboard and plycount. Can I assume this problem will fix itself later? Thanks. Equinox ◑ 01:36, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
I saw you changed a number of Spanish "Verb" forms to "Participle", including neviscada but not neviscado. Is there any reason you didn't convert neviscado? If "Participle" is the preferred, format, I'll update my bot to detect and generate "Participle" forms where it would have previously generated "Verb" forms and it should catch and convert anything your bot might have skipped.
Also, I saw the switch from R:DRAE to R:es:DRAE. Are you planning something similar for R:TLFi to R:fr:TLFi? I have no preference, but will need to update my bot if there is a change. JeffDoozan (talk) 23:46, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
{{es-past participle}}
but in this case since it's an impersonal verb it should read {{es-past participle|inv=1}}
(and forms like neviscada, neviscados, neviscadas should be deleted). I think the reason this didn't get converted is I went through the categories Category:Spanish past participles and Category:Spanish past participle forms but didn't catch participles that exist only in Category:Spanish verb forms. If you can clean these up, that would be great; last year I wrote a script to clean up Italian past participles and past participle forms in a similar fashion and it ended up running over 1,000 lines due to the multitude of different ways these terms were formatted. As for {{R:TLFi}}
, I will probably make a similar change; I'll let you know if/when this happens. Benwing2 (talk) 02:37, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Hi Benwing, I fixed a mistake by your bot, which edited in the tenses for 'volere dire' instead of 'volere bene' as you can see. Just letting you know in case there were other such edits, Kritixilithos (talk) 19:25, 11 September 2022 (UTC).
{{multitrans}}
There's an issue with {{multitrans}}
, as you can see here, blank space is added before the first entry. Would you mind fixing it? Esszet (talk) 03:28, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
{{multitrans}}
to go on its own line is to output a *
at the beginning, but this will cause issues (I think) if {{multitrans}}
is added on the same line as {{trans-top}}
. User:Erutuon and/or User:This, that and the other, can you comment? Benwing2 (talk) 04:13, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
{{multitrans}}
is on the same line as {{trans-top}}
. It gets transformed to <li class="mw-empty-elt">
either way. This, that and the other (talk) 05:00, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Hiya - (you may well be aware of this), but I've noticed that Russian has incorrect syllable counts for words ending in -изм (-izm), which the module treats as a single syllable. That means буддизм (buddizm) is categorised as two syllables and so on. I'm also not sure that алгебр (algebr) is two syllables either. Theknightwho (talk) 03:29, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Hiya - Mongolian has three regular rules that apply only to words borrowed from Russian: the two straightforward ones are that -ия (-ija) becomes -и (-i) (with a regular exception) and that unstressed final vowels are dropped. However, the third is that у (u) is treated as ү (ü) for the purpose of vowel harmony, but remains orthographically unchanged. This therefore affects the vowels used in any inflectional suffixes (e.g. the genitive of групп (grupp) is группийн not группын). It's not always easy to determine whether a word has been borrowed from Russian, and I was wondering if there might be a way to make use of your extensive Russian modules to run a spot check as to whether a word is likely of Russian origin. This would also be more useful generally, as loanwords as a whole have other rules governing them too, and Russian is the source for most of them. In a broad sense, the situation is probably analogous to the Greek inflections in Latin. Theknightwho (talk) 12:03, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
{{top}}
Hi Benwing,
Has something about this template changed recently? It doesn't seem to be splitting things into columns now. For instance the descendants section of furunculus displays as one giant column for me instead of the three that there should be.
Nicodene (talk) 05:46, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
{{top}}
, which is a redirect to {{topics}}
, and the templates with numbers in their names such as {{top2}}
, {{top3}}
, etc. {{top3}}
splits things into three columns. Chuck Entz (talk) 06:02, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Heads up, German compounds are written solid. This makes a bot's diff incorrect. See e.g. de:W:Leerzeichen in Komposita. --Dan Polansky (talk) 15:18, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Hey, I was hoping you could help with what I hope is a fairly easy bot job. On User:Vininn126/wanted I have a few indices.
What I would like specifically is:
If there is a blue link in the indices for any word in "Linde" or "SJP1861", to add {{R:pl:SJP1807}}
(Linde) and {{R:pl:SJP1861}}
respectively to Further reading. I have them organized by letter so the bot will have to be able to check that, or perhaps just download the lists. I'd also like them to appear in that order on pages after any currently existing links. Unfortunately due to historical spellings many words that we could add the link to will be skipped in this way, but the way I see it we are adding free value to pages. I'd also like to do this for {{R:pl:NFJP}}
, but unfortunately some of the links from there will be dead, perhaps there is a way to check that but it would be extra work. The other dictionaries listed there require parameters and as such can not be added so automatically. I am unsure if I explained the first part 100% clearly, so let me know if there's something I need to expand upon. Thanks! Vininn126 (talk) 22:19, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
{{R:pl:NFJP}}
that "some of the links from there will be dead", what do you mean exactly? Benwing2 (talk) 22:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi, here's the next lot:
{{quote-book|1=en|year=1887|author=H. Rider Haggard|authorlink=H. Rider Haggard|title=She: A History of Adventure|url=http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3155/3155-0.txt|passage=XYZ}}
→ {{RQ:Haggard She|passage=XYZ}}
{{quote-book|en|year=1834|author={{w|Letitia Elizabeth Landon}}|title=Francesca Carrara|volume=1|page=244|text=XYZ}}
→ {{RQ:Landon Francesca Carrara|volume=I|page=244|passage=XYZ}}
(update |volume=2
to |volume=II
, and |volume=3
to |volume=III
.){{RQ:Browning The Ring and the Book}}
→ {{RQ:Robert Browning Ring and Book}}
{{RQ:Coleridge Ancient Mariner}}
→ {{RQ:Wordsworth Coleridge Lyrical Ballads|poem=The Rime of the Ancyent Marinere}}
{{RQ:Cudworth True}}
→ {{RQ:Cudworth Universe}}
{{RQ:Mlry MrtArthr1}}
, {{RQ:Mlry MrtArthr2}}
→ {{RQ:Malory Le Morte Darthur}}
{{RQ:Strype EM}}
→ {{RQ:Strype Ecclesiastical Memorials}}
{{RQ:Twain Sawyer}}
(to be retained as a shortcut) → {{RQ:Twain Tom Sawyer}}
{{RQ:Warner Albion}}
→ {{RQ:Warner Albions England}}
{{RQ:Young Fame}}
, {{RQ:Young The Love of Fame}}
, {{RQ:Young Universal Passion}}
(to be retained as a shortcut) → {{RQ:Young Love of Fame}}
Also, {{en-conj}}
has been updated so that archaic forms of verbs such as walkest and walketh are only displayed if the parameter |old=1
is added. Is it possible to have your bot check for situations where the template has been used in an entry, and if a verb has archaic forms that have been created, to add |old=1
to {{en-conj}}
? Thank you. — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:03, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
{{en-conj}}
, which I haven't evaluated yet. I will go ahead and do everything else. Benwing2 (talk) 20:34, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi, could you help me out? I'd like to display the pronunciation the same way the Ancient Greek module does it (so with a switch that alternates between inline E -> L on one hand and all three the IPA pronunciation each on its own row on the other), but I can't figure out how to do that. Would you know how to do that? Thanks in advance. Thadh (talk) 16:53, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi @Benwing2! How is your workload these days? I'd still like to borrow you and your skills to create inflection tables for Akkadian verbs, nouns and adjectives. Would you be available sometime? — Sartma 【𒁾𒁉 ● 𒊭 𒌑𒊑𒀉𒁲】 13:59, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Something's strange here: Special:Permalink/69508182 The plural is correct for the main lemma. Some special logic with lowercase? Jberkel 14:29, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
!
. This is mentioned under Template:de-ndecl/documentation#Irregular genitives and plurals but I have added an example to make it clearer. Benwing2 (talk) 04:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Hiya - I'm using this function in the new Module:mn-noun (which is a very heavily modified version of your own uk-noun module). A problem that I'm running into is in relation to the Mongolian "unstable nasal", where around 1/3 of noun stems acquire an epenthetic "n" at the end of the stem under certain conditions, including before 3 case suffixes. This is also a feature of certain suffixes, which becomes relevant when further agglutination occurs. It's not an inheritable feature, so regular suffixes don't inherit the unstable nasal from the stem or vice-versa. It's also not orthographically predictable, so has to be manually specified.
In order to avoid having massive lists of endings, the module instead works by having an algorithm for each case form. The results from these are then fed through again where necessary (e.g. each case has a reflexive form, and I'm also intending to add certain double-declension forms to be enabled when appropriate). As an example, at the moment it runs add( data, "gen_sg", genitive( data.lemma, data ) )
, where the genitive
function generates a reduced stem where appropriate and the relevant genitive suffix, and the add
function ultimately plugs these into add_forms
. Then, I can just run add( data, "gen_sg_refl", reflexive( data.forms.form, data ) )
to generate the reflexive form.
However, the problem with this is that there's no way to feed metadata into add_forms
about the resulting form other than footnotes. I'd like to be able to tell it whether the form has the unstable nasal (or whatever other feature), so that I can utilise that when I feed that form through another case function. The current implementation currently treats the lemma as either having the unstable nasal or not, which is a problem when you start doing compound cases, as it wrongly applies whatever applies to the stem to the inflected forms as well.
Is there a straightforward way to amend add_forms
to account for metadata? It wouldn't need to process it other than making sure it ends up as a field in the forms table for that form, in the same ways as the footnotes
field is. In other above example, it'd be something like data.forms.decl
, which could have the value "r"
(regular) or "n"
. Two less common areas where this would also be useful are: (1) with the much rarer unstable velar stems (which have an epenthetic "g"), and (2) where a suffix containing a vowel harmony reset ("уу" or "үү") is suffixed to a borrowed stem, which should have its vowel harmony calculated as though it were a native stem (i.e. the vowel harmony reset can't be ignored as it would be under the rules for borrowings, as the suffix is a native morpheme). This affects the usual plural suffix and the directional case, so comes up a lot. Theknightwho (talk) 21:30, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
decl
: "r"
(regular), "n"
(unstable nasal) or "g"
(unstable velar). e.g. nom sg жин (žin, “weight”) ("g"
) → abl sg жингээс (žingees, “from weight”) ("r"
) → abl sg refl жингээсээ (žingeesee, “from one's own weight”). Currently it outputs жингээсгээ, as the epenthetic "g" is wrongly applied to the regular suffix.bor
: true
if the stem is a borrowing and has no inflectional suffix. e.g. with no VH switcher involved: nom sg аксиом (aksiom, “axiom”) (true
) → ins sg аксиомоор (aksiomoor, “with axiom”) (false
) → ins sg refl аксиомоороо (aksiomooroo, “with one's own axiom”); by comparison, with a VH switcher involved: nom sg аксиом (aksiom) → nom pl аксиомууд (aksiomuud, “axioms”) (false
) → ins pl аксиомуудаар (aksiomuudaar, “with the axioms”) → ins pl refl аксиомуудаараа (aksiomuudaaraa, “with one's own axioms”). Applying the VH rules for borrowings to аксиомууд (aksiomuud) generates аксиомуудоо and аксиомуудоороо, as the "уу" switcher in the plural suffix is ignored.bor
flag is also needed in order to calculate whether an inflection of a borrowing gets reduced on agglutination, as reduction can only ever happen to native stems or borrowings with a native suffix. e.g. nom sg щит (ščit, “shield”) (true
) → dat-loc sg щитэд (ščited, “in the shield”) (false
) → dat-loc sg refl щитдээ (ščitdee, “in one's own shield”). Treating it all as a borrowing incorrectly generates щитэдээ, as reduction is incorrectly omitted. By comparison, no reduction occurs with acc sg щитийг (ščitiig) → acc sg refl щитийгээ (ščitiigee). The occurrence of stem reduction is always possible to calculate but very intricate, so it would be totally infeasible to do anything other than feeding the first inflection through the second inflection function - otherwise things will start getting exponentially complicated.add_forms
, where anything that doesn't match the parameters already specified gets treated as a flag. Just as with stems
and endings
, these could be either (a) a non-table (applied to every output), (b) a table of the length of endings
(each flag is applied to any combo with the corresponding ending), or (c) a table with two subtables, of the length of stems
and endings
(allowing 1 to 1 correspondence with each combo of stems and endings). Anything not matching one of these three (e.g. tables of the wrong length) throws an error.insert_form
, and the final output would be that each subtable in each form in theforms
table would have an entry with the key "decl" (or whatever). Theknightwho (talk) 13:45, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
The headword line had a broken categorization template, should have mentioned this in the diff. See Special:Permalink/69577082#Portuguese. But it looks like a one-off error. – Jberkel 13:24, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
Hiya - would it please be possible for the acceleration of Russian pre-1918 spellings to add an appropriate context label? This probably only makes sense if the lemma spelling didn't change, but that should be possible to determine (either algorithmically, or as a last resort by having Module:accel/ru check the contents of the page to see if there are a pair of modern and old declension tables). Theknightwho (talk) 19:53, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I see that you are one of those users who edit the Module:be-pronunciation so I'd like to ask you about the followings (I'm simply curious, not trying to contest or anything like that):
Thank you for your answers. --Potapt (talk) 10:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Hello — I have just resurrected {{el-noun-proper-form}}
, I have no wish to be contentious. I want to have some form of uniformity for el-editors and, for me at least, simplify entry . While I understand a desire to reduce anarchy, I would contend that el-HWL templates are not the area to concentrate on. — Saltmarsh🢃 06:41, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
{{el-proper noun form}}
for consistency with other templates? Benwing2 (talk) 07:23, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
{{el-proper-noun-form}}
. — Saltmarsh🢃 16:53, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Hello! Could we have an etymology language for Katharevousa, needed at etymologies like ἀγυιά?
The Category:Katharevousa is limited and contains only some words needed elsewhere in etymology sections, it also needs some corrections. Thank you! ‑‑Sarri.greek ♫ I 06:49, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
Hello, again Benwing. Sir, is there a way to block specific users from my Talk page? I have 2 personae non gratae. Thank you. ‑‑Sarri.greek ♫ I 07:30, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
was told by @Fenakhay on the discord to bug you about(...i guess how to approach?) cleaning up the Category of Categories, particularly the fact that there's a glaring amount of examples of manually added categories that could likely be better implemented as part of various modules
https://w.wiki/5vCd this should be pretty much a search of all potential offending Categories Akaibu1 (talk) 04:19, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
I just deleted a template that an IP accidentally created. When I looked at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:abbreviation, I was surprised to see two transclusions that resulted from recent edits by your bot: diff and diff- which was especially strange since you were the one who deleted it back in 2019. Chuck Entz (talk) 08:26, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
{{abbrev}}
is intended for Etymology sections while {{abbr of}}
/{{abbreviation of}}
is intended for definition lines. (The formatting is different.) But the names are rather confusing. Benwing2 (talk) 08:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC)Hey. I pinged you in Special:Diff/69623933 but I'm not sure if you've seen it. Could you please, when time permits, run a bot job that restores all the extraneous spaces that were used in preformatted blocks on otherwise empty lines? In other words, whitespace-only lines should not have become empty lines IF the preceding line begins with a space. See mw:Help:Formatting/ta, C-f "Preformatted text". Thanks in advance! — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 12:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
''
at the end of the line to avoid having a trailing blank space). Benwing2 (talk) 02:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC)Thanks for adding the double clitic support to {{es-verb form of}}
, I've converted all of the valid forms using {{es-compound of}}
to {{es-verb form of}}
.
With the exception of the pages listed in Category:Spanish verbs with lexical clitics, I think all of the pages still remaining in
Category:Spanish combined forms are junk in that they don't match up with forms generated by {{es-verb form of}}
. For the most part they seem to be the regular forms of irregular verbs, words with misplaced accents, or gerund + object_clitic for reflexive verbs that require gerund + personal + object clitic. JeffDoozan (talk) 18:27, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
{{es-verb form of}}
, I'll ping you when it's ready to be purged. JeffDoozan (talk) 18:57, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
{{es-verb form of}}
, which defines them as 'masculine singular past participle of amar', 'feminine singular past participle of amar', etc. For Italian and various Slavic languages, at least, the past participle lemma is defined using e.g. {{past participle of|es|amar}}
, and the non-lemma past participle forms are defined as forms of the past participle, hence e.g. amadas would be defined as {{feminine plural of|es|amado}}
rather than as a direct form of amar. This is in keeping with the headword, which after all specifies a 'past participle form' rather than a 'verb form'. What do you think? Benwing2 (talk) 19:03, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
{{past participle of}}
, {{feminine plural of}}
, etc and convert the existing {{es-verb form of}}
participle entries. JeffDoozan (talk) 19:17, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
{{past participle of}}
. Benwing2 (talk) 22:07, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
{{es-compound of}}
; can you specify what the remaining issues are with these terms that prevents them from being corrected? Is there any more work needed on Module:es-verb? Thanks! Benwing2 (talk) 03:38, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
{{es-compound of}}
. Many of these are words like adelantose which uses a slot (pret_3s_comb_se) that isn't used in modern Spanish and isn't handled by {{es-verb form of}}
even using the <> overrides. Beyond the obsolete terms, there are also érase and dícese, which are not obsolete but (I think) derive from the archaic slots impf_3s_comb_se and pres_3s_comb_se. Would it make sense to create something like {{es-obsolete compound of}}
to handle all of these? JeffDoozan (talk) 21:11, 11 January 2023 (UTC)... if they have the same spelling as the etymon. See for example the Sicilian descendant of barba#Latin. I presume this is not intended. Catonif (talk) 23:32, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi, I got your pings on reverts. I don't quite know the purpose of those brackets and don't remember what I did. There must be a reason, I guess. Let me know if you have a moment. Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 04:18, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
{{ru-derived verbs}}
and my conversion script flagged these cases due to the mismatching bracket. Benwing2 (talk) 04:26, 12 December 2022 (UTC)Hey; I am considering making something similar to {{ru-pre-reform}}
for Polish (see Wiktionary_talk:About_Polish#Spelling_reforms). How would I go about altering {{alter}}
to allow this? And before I implement it I want to work out a few more details, but I'd like to ask now. Vininn126 (talk) 10:26, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
{{alt}}
multiple times on a page or would it be possible to list them in one instance? Vininn126 (talk) 22:09, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
{{alt|pl|ženyać|ženiać||pre-1918|pre-1936}}
; in this case having both "pre-1918" and "pre-1936" doesn't really make sense but I can see it working if the reforms involved differing changes and weren't strictly chronological, e.g. it took time for a given reform to be implemented and in the meantime another reform happened or something. If you mean however that you want to list term A with reform A, and term B with reform B, and include them on the same {{alt}}
line, that isn't currently possible with {{alt}}
, although it is with {{syn}}
; look near the bottom of the "Dialect tags" section in the documentation for {{synonyms}}
and you'll see an Armenian example of this involving different dialectal terms for "mouse". Potentially the same thing could be implemented for {{alt}}
using the same syntax. Benwing2 (talk) 02:34, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
What is the benefit of edits like this one?
This is one character longer in the wikicode, and using t=
is not really any clearer to the editor than just using the fourth positional parameter (someone has to read the template docs or code to understand what either will do).
Is there some back-end technical consideration at play here? Does an empty third parameter cause some kind of problem? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 19:57, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
{{desc}}
to take multiple positional terms; formerly additional descendant terms had to be listed one by one using {{l}}
for each. Before I made this change I discussed it in the Beer Parlour and got consensus to make the change; I notified (or tried to notify) the main editors who were adding descendants about this change; and I made the template throw an error when it sees a gap in the positional arguments, to catch most cases where people were trying to use the old syntax. Benwing2 (talk) 01:24, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
{{m}}
, such as changing {{m|ja|ターム||term|tr=tāmu}}
to {{m|ja|ターム|t=term|tr=tāmu}}
. If I've had occasion to edit after them, I've undone such changes, but after seeing your edit that sparked this thread, it occurred to me that maybe I'm missing something and what if there's a compelling technical advantage gained from this change in parameters. Sounds like "no, there isn't", and your edit was specific to the circumstances of a change in {{desc}}
and not based on any kind of broad underlying consideration affecting all templates. Cheers! ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 18:27, 15 December 2022 (UTC)As a rule, a written double N is Spanish is pronounced as a double N (see OLE 2010, p. 177). It occurs mainly in prefixed words, e. g. ennoblecer, connotar, innecesario, but also can occur within a root in loanwords (including cultisms), e. g. cánnabis/cannabis, henna, perenne. Often etymological double N is spelled and pronounced in Spanish as a single N, e. g. anual, eneágono. Some words have two spellings and pronunciations: jienense/jiennense.
But Johannesburgo is indeed pronounced with a single , according to DPD. Minnesota and tennesiano — probably yes, a single , as Minnesota and Tennessee are proper names foreign to Spanish. For pínnula, the DLE only shows the spelling with a single N. Giovanny is a nonstandard spelling. Yinn does not appear in the DLE, having two n's at the end is very non-Spanish, perhaps italics would be accepted when writing this word. Cannoli also does not appear in the DLE; in Italian, double consonants are geminated. Burzuchius (talk) 18:03, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
If I correctly understand RAE prescriptions, pronouncing combinations of vowels with an unstressed i and u as diphthongs (or triphthongs) is always considered correct, but in some cases a hiatic pronunciation may coexist.
As for the secondary stress, according to the RAE it is present only in adverbs ending in -mente (and also in words with hyphen, but some of them, such as épico-lírico, may be pronounced without the secondary stress). So, if we follow the RAE prescriptions, polineuropático should not carry a secondary stress. Of course, how people actually speak may be different from how the RAE prescribes. Burzuchius (talk) 10:15, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
I copypasted the wrong pronunciation templates. I understand that. You don't need to tag me every time. And regarding the bullets: templates have been changed. They used to require bullets. Thanks. embryomystic (talk) 07:10, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
{{es-pr}}
not {{es-pr|+}}
; the + serves no purpose by itself. Benwing2 (talk) 07:19, 21 December 2022 (UTC)In the Wikipedia article w:Spanish orthography, I have written a section containing a summary of RAE rules of syllabification and hyphenating words at the end of line: w:Spanish orthography#Syllabification. So, I guess that cadherina can only be hyphenated cadhe-rina or cadheri-na, because unusual h-containing combinations are not permitted at the beginning of line. If the prefix is just etymological, then hyphenating before h is also incorrect, so adhe-si-vo. Hyphenating before the h is accepted only in words with "living" prefixes, e. g. in-humano, des-hidratado. As for quetzal, I guess the correct hyphenation is quet-zal: the RAE does not anywhere mention tz as a digraph or an inseparable group. Burzuchius (talk) 16:36, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Hello. Just wanted to specify that the reason I used the secondary stress in Italian words prefixed with peri- was the fact that, on the Treccani page dedicated to the prefix (here), I saw it written as pèri-. GianWiki (talk) 07:22, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
If I've just added a rhyme, and not the whole pronunciation template, it's because I added it to the rhyme page, and that automatically adds the rhyme template. I try to do that before I add dictionary links, fix other templates, add related terms, etc. because it doesn't recognise the pronunciation template, and adds a redundant pronunciation link. If I failed to complete that whole process, it's probably because I got distracted (possibly by something in real life), but I do try to follow through. Rest assured, though, I'm aware of the issue, and it annoys me when I run across it. embryomystic (talk) 16:22, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
{{rhymes|it}}
templates to various pages. We should modify the gadget to recognize pronunciation templates like {{it-pr}}
, {{es-pr}}
, {{fi-p}}
, {{pl-p}}
etc. and not add the redundant template. User:Erutuon, can you give me some pointers as to how to test JavaScript changes to gadgets using a private copy? I can see the code in MediaWiki:Gadget-RhymesAdder.js but I'd like to avoid hacking the production module directly as I am not very familiar with JavaScript. Benwing2 (talk) 01:13, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
pageNameOfUserspaceCopy
, grab the dependencies of the gadget (dependency1
, dependency2
, etc., if any) from MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition add mw.loader.using(, function() { mw.loader.load(mw.util.getUrl("pageNameOfUserspaceCopy", { action: "raw", ctype: "text/javascript" })); });
to your Special:MyPage/common.js. I didn't test that exact code, but it's similar to what I use. Then you can edit the userspace copy and changes will be much more quickly reflected than with edits to MediaWiki JavaScript pages. I think that's the basics, so please ask if you have any problems. — Eru·tuon 17:45, 24 December 2022 (UTC)Hello Benwing. Do you think you could run your bot to orphan {{cs-reflexive}}
and replace it with {{lb|cs|reflexive}}
? PUC – 10:37, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
{{bg-reflexive}}
etc. templates, i.e. display just reflexive for the 'reflexive' label and show (~ се) at the end after all the labels. Benwing2 (talk) 06:16, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
reflexive-se
and reflexive-si
. Originally I made reflexive
be an alias for reflexive-se
, but then I realized that might be wrong (just as you describe), so I removed the alias. Now, reflexive
just displays reflexive, while reflexive-se
displays reflexive with се and reflexive-si
displays reflexive with си. Feel free to use the new labels as appropriate. Benwing2 (talk) 19:10, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
reflexive
to remain an alias for reflexive-se
? Then I will manually edit those 8 entries with си (si)-reflexive verbs. Gorec (talk) 20:49, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Benwing! I think you understand well the Macedonian {{Module:mk-pronunciation}}
. You know that the word stress in Macedonian is antepenultimate, but the adverbial participles have irregular stress. They are stressed on the second-to-last syllable i.e. on -а́јќи and -е́јќи. Is it possible in the module to be added some code, to skip the antepenultimate rule, so when {{mk-IPA}}
is applied in entries with adverbial participles, the stress to be automatically added on -а́јќи /-'ajci/ and -е́јќи /-'ɛjci/? I want to avoid manually typing it, as in акцентирајќи or броејќи. Thanks. Gorec (talk) 08:58, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
{{mk-advptcp}}
to include the reflexive verbs too. Maybe the rules of this template can be used into the module? Or, if it is possible, I will create a separate template {{mk-IPA-advptcp}}
for the adverbial participles. Gorec (talk) 13:20, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
{{mk-advptcp}}
. Now it creates a headword line and definition for Macedonian adverbial participles. For that purpose there I used the function {{#invoke:string|sub|s={{PAGENAME}}|1|{{#expr:-1...
. It works well, but I wondered if maybe there is a shorter function, for the same purpose, that works on Wiktionary!? When you have the time, can you please check the functions I used there? All the parameters are explained well in the Documentation. Thank you in advance! Gorec (talk) 14:17, 30 December 2022 (UTC)Hi, here is the next batch:
{{RQ:BFC&T}}
→ {{RQ:Beaumont Fletcher Comedies and Tragedies}}
{{RQ:Holland Amm}}
→ {{RQ:Marcellinus Holland Roman Historie}}
{{RQ:Joseph Hall The Invisible World}}
→ {{RQ:Hall Invisible World}}
{{RQ:Southey More}}
→ {{RQ:Southey Thomas More}}
Also, the 1st edition of {{RQ:Burton Melancholy}}
has now become available at the Internet Archive, so I have updated the quotation template to make that the default version. Could you please do a bot run to search for instances of the template that do not use the parameter |edition=
, and add |edition=2nd
to them? (Note to self: amaze already refers to the 1st edition, so it will need to be edited to remove the |edition=
parameter after the bot run.) Thank you. — Sgconlaw (talk) 16:45, 29 December 2022 (UTC)