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The N-word is obviously widely considered racist. Watering this down is not making things more neutral; it is misleading. Equinox ◑ 05:35, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
- To say that the mere use of the word nigger is racist ipsó factó is inaccurate, regardless of whether or not it is popularly conceived as such, and the phrasing, considered racist, reads as if to be biased toward that misconception. I changed the phrasing from considered racist to associated with racism, as this preserves the cultural connotations of the word while providing a neutral view. On Wikipedia, e.g., the page for the color red says things like, red is traditionally symbolic of..., and, red is historically associated with..., rather than, red is considered..., as it informs of the cultural connotations without seemingly being biased toward a particular perspective. I strongly recommend preserving my edits. VexVector (talk) 06:04, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Please don't just lazily copy the inflections from the base word, as you get stupid shit like this: . Theknightwho (talk) 23:39, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
- I manually added the infections, as I figured it would still be appropriate to include archaïc inflections, but I’ll take heed that such is undesired here. Vex-Vectoꝛ 10:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Where did you intend Unsupported titles/`vert``vert` to link to, or what definition did you intend to give it? As it is, it just says || is an alt form of || (itself) ... (PS æ/œ ligatures are generally obsolete in English, outside of loanwords from languages that still currently use them, like French.) - -sche (discuss) 21:19, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
- It was intended to link to the double, vertical line {‖}; i.e., the cæsura-mark. I’m not sure why I couldn’t correctly link it to the intended destination. The præcomposed Unicode-character is not recommended over composing it as multiple characters, much like the ellipsis. Having an entry for it as an alternative form, at least, is therefore judicious.
With regards to the ligatures {æ} and {œ}, while most orthographical style-guides have dropped them in favor of unligated {ae} and {oe}, or simply {e}—especially in the U.S.A.—they are archaïc, not obsolete. N.b. the distinction between the two. The aforementioned ligatures remained in use into the early XXth Century, and overdate the period of unstandardized orthography in English. Vex-Vectoꝛ 10:08, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Why are you mass-replacing "transgender slang" with "LGBT" in labels, even for clearly transgender-related terms like egg and T*? Please get consensus first. Notifying @-sche who may be interested. Ioaxxere (talk) 18:05, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Okay, I've stopped per your request. I'll prepare a justification for my edits in the meantime. Would it be appropriate to do so here, or somewhere else? Vex-Vectoꝛ 18:07, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Probably the Wiktionary:Tea room would be the best place. Ioaxxere (talk) 18:11, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
- (Yeah, Tea Room is probably best.) I'll await hearing the rationale. :) AFAICT a lot of these terms are most often or characteristically used by trans people, though some are also sometimes used by cis people when discussing or trying to be inclusive of trans people, which suggests to me that we might need to decide which are sufficiently usually/characteristically used by trans people to label them trans slang (or "chiefly" trans slang), and which might be better labelless... but on the face of it, I'm not (yet) seeing a case for labelling most of them "LGBT", since to the extent that non-trans people use them, straight people who are discussing or trying to be inclusive of trans people seem as likely to use them as LGB people.
In cases where who uses a word is not restricted, and the restriction is only in the meaning of the word — that the word means a trans person, or means a thing a trans person uses or has — that's something to indicate in the definition rather than any label, BTW (e.g. this correct edit removed "LGBT" labels from lesbian, a word which non-LGBT people obviously also use), although people perennially misunderstand this (IMO because they find it 'easier' or more intuitive to use labels to add categories than to use {{C}} or {{cln}} to add categories😅 even when the labels are outright wrong). - -sche (discuss) 18:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
- I'll link the subsequent topic in the Tea room here for the sake of ease of access to it from this topic in the future, despite both of you being pinged there. Vex-Vectoꝛ 20:34, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply