Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2016-11/Voting limits

Voting on:

Proposal #1 — Removing this rule from Wiktionary:Voting policy:

• "No topic should have a new vote more than once a day (24 hr period)."

Proposal #2 — If, and only if, the Proposal #1 passes, adding this new rule in Wiktionary:Voting policy to replace what was removed:

• "The same person cannot create more than one vote in the span of 7 days. (For example, if someone creates a vote on December 9, then they must wait until at least December 16 before creating another one.)"
• Note: If the proposal 1 fails, then the proposal 2 is void.

Rationale:

• The Proposal #1 is about removing a rule about voting "once a day (24 hr period)", which translates as 30 votes per month and therefore is not an useful limit. (and it uses "topic" as an additional criterion without actually defining it: could we create 60 votes per month under 2 different topics?)
• The Proposal #2 is about a suggested more feasible limit on the number of votes created by someone. It translates as 5 votes per month, per person.

Schedule:

• Vote starts: 00:00, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
• Vote ends: 23:59, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
• Vote created: --Daniel Carrero (talk) 07:55, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Discussion:

• Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2016/October#How many votes?
• Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2016/October#Removing: "No topic should have a new vote more than once a day (24 hr period)."
• Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2016/November#Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2016-11/One vote per week
• Wiktionary talk:Votes/pl-2016-11/Voting limits

1. Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:57, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
2. Support —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 03:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
3. Support --WikiTiki89 17:49, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
4. Support - TheDaveRoss 20:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
5. Support -Xbony2 (talk) 22:14, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
6. Support - Andrew Sheedy (talk) 05:39, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
7. Support — Saltmarsh. 17:37, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
8. Support. Remove the rule: it does not do anything useful. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:15, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
9. Support - DonnanZ (talk) 17:18, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
10. Support — Eru·tuon 03:06, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
11. Support — I.S.M.E.T.A. 11:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Oppose. We don't need more bureaucracy for its own sake. When has creating too many votes been a problem recently except with Daniel, who has clearly learned his lesson? —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 03:07, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge: You are opposing the idea of removing a useless rule, and saying: "We don't need more bureaucracy for its own sake." Are you sure? --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:13, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for correcting me. I should've read it more carefully. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 03:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

It's allright. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:37, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Oppose We need more limitation, not less, on these proposals. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:40, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Not eligible to vote per Wiktionary:Voting policy. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:46, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

1. Support DonnanZ (talk) 13:20, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
2. Support Equinox ◑ 13:23, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
3. Support I will support anything which discourages the use of votes as a way of deciding issues. — ObſequiousNewt — Geſpꝛaͤch — Beÿtraͤge 00:25, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

   Support Continual votes are a method of wearing down opposition. We can't have this. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:41, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

   Not eligible to vote per Wiktionary:Voting policy. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:46, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

4. Support — I.S.M.E.T.A. 11:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

1. Oppose --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:57, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
2. Oppose —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 03:07, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
3. Oppose --WikiTiki89 17:49, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
4. Oppose - TheDaveRoss 20:41, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
5. Oppose -Xbony2 (talk) 22:15, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
6. Oppose — Andrew Sheedy (talk) 05:41, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
7. Oppose There is such a thing as too many votes but I don't think we need the proposed rule of max 1 new vote per person and week. My rule of thumb is that there should never be more than 10 votes currently running, but even that should not be made into a ridig rule. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:15, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Withdrawn --Daniel Carrero (talk) 01:07, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

The vote was edited and re-scheduled to start, per the talk page. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 13:11, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

• Proposal 1 passed: 11-0-0 (100%-0%).
• Proposal 2 failed: 4-7-0 (36.3%-63.7%).

I edited WT:VP accordingly. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 16:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)