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Rfv-sense : {{context|UK|colloquial|lang=und}} {{present participle of|sit}} #:''I'm '''sat''' in the middle of the park.''. Dubious how this is a present participle. As an adjective, sure. --On Ka Wo Mu (talk) 09:48, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- It's the passive voice, it's nonstandard (according to some, anyway) but it's not the present participle of sit, it's the past participle. And to be honest I think it's so widespread as to be called standard, even if a logical analysis might rule it invalid. Compare stood (I'm stood in the middle of the park). Mglovesfun (talk) 10:17, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'd have called it a (non-standard?) past participle of seat#Verb. DCDuring TALK 14:37, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- I think it's a form of sit, not seat. Dutch has an analogous construction: ik ben gezeten. gezeten is the past participle of zitten (“to sit”). —CodeCat 16:13, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- At first blush, I share DCDuring's analysis, but the fact that both seat and sit have transitive and intransitive senses does complicate matters. Note that in addition to constructions like "I'm sat in the middle of the park", there are constructions like "they sat their guest in the leftmost chair" and "the room he was sat in was more like a windowless box". I think labelling it "colloquial" (not not "nonstandard") is fine, but I wouldn't put it in the headword line of seat or sit. - -sche (discuss) 17:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- As a British English speaker, it is the past of sit. I specifically remembering being taught not to use this in school (I can even name the teacher, Mrs. Bowen). Mglovesfun (talk) 08:34, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- I thought sitten was the past participle of sit :p Leasnam (talk) 19:43, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- Failed, by the way, this would be like having situated as the present participle of situate because of "it's situated in the middle of the park". Mglovesfun (talk) 11:46, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
- I disagree that that's analogous, but whatever. - -sche (discuss) 03:08, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- As a British English speaker, it is the past of sit. I specifically remembering being taught not to use this in school (I can even name the teacher, Mrs. Bowen). Mglovesfun (talk) 08:34, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- At first blush, I share DCDuring's analysis, but the fact that both seat and sit have transitive and intransitive senses does complicate matters. Note that in addition to constructions like "I'm sat in the middle of the park", there are constructions like "they sat their guest in the leftmost chair" and "the room he was sat in was more like a windowless box". I think labelling it "colloquial" (not not "nonstandard") is fine, but I wouldn't put it in the headword line of seat or sit. - -sche (discuss) 17:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- I think it's a form of sit, not seat. Dutch has an analogous construction: ik ben gezeten. gezeten is the past participle of zitten (“to sit”). —CodeCat 16:13, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'd have called it a (non-standard?) past participle of seat#Verb. DCDuring TALK 14:37, 19 May 2013 (UTC)