Talk:stum

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RFV discussion: March–July 2019

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Rfv-sense "Wine revived by new fermentation, resulting from the admixture of must." The sense has one quotation under it, but that quotation has a footnote saying it doesn't support the sense and that the sense is an error in the old dictionary we appear to have copied it from! The sense could be a plausible extension of the "must" sense; OTOH, it is contranymic to the "new wine used to revive old wine" sense. The presence of both other senses may make it difficult to find clear citations. M-W doesn't have it, neither does the EDD although it has some other interesting senses. "Revive the stum", "revived stum", "revived stum" turn up nothing. I also looked for mentions of people putting new wine into stum, but only found some other old dictionaries. - -sche (discuss) 07:06, 19 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

It appears in the OED Online, though the entry has not been updated since 1919. The current quotation is given, together with one from Henry Fielding (which to me is not clear at all) – True Patriot (1775): “We drank nine bottles a piece of stum.” — SGconlaw (talk) 07:26, 19 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

RFV-resolved. There are two cites in the entry, plus the one from Sgconlaw above makes three. Kiwima (talk) 21:33, 31 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

I interpret "keep stum" in "Season in Hell" to mean "keep quiet". See also, , , , and keep shtum. DTLHS (talk) 21:41, 31 July 2019 (UTC)Reply


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