Talk:temperance
RFD discussion: September 2015
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"One of the seven heavenly virtues." That's not actually a definition, is it? Temperance as in moderation (definitions #1 and #2) is one of the seven heavenly virtues. No defintion at greed "one of the seven deadly sins". Renard Migrant (talk) 15:55, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, delete, it's just a description, not a definition. Wikipedia material. Dbfirs 09:40, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- Objections? Seems uncontroversial enough to me. Renard Migrant (talk) 13:21, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
RFV discussion: October–December 2023
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Rfv-sense 3 "Moderation of passion", as distinct from sense 1 "Habitual moderation in regard to the indulgence of the natural appetites and passions; restrained or moderate indulgence". The distinction is not clear at all to me. PUC – 18:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Cited. If it helps I think sense 1 is refraining from things which would give you pleasure, while sense 3 is not giving in to strong emotions like anger (which wouldn't necessarily give you pleasure if you did). It's arguable that they are subsenses of the same sense though; the OED has them as such. And there are many uses where temperance is just listed as a virtue without it being clear exactly what is meant... Weylaway (talk) 18:52, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
RFV-passed This, that and the other (talk) 05:13, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
RFV discussion: October–December 2023
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Rfv-sense 2 "Moderation, and sometimes abstinence, in respect to using intoxicating liquors". This is more of a request for quotes than a real RFV, as several native speakers have pointed out to me that this sense is indeed distinct from sense 1. PUC – 18:57, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Cited. Weylaway (talk) 18:47, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
RFV-passed This, that and the other (talk) 05:13, 8 December 2023 (UTC)