Template talk:RQ:Withycombe Christian Names

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I could use help getting this template ready to function. What I have built so far has been adapted from existing templates.

All the information and links are in, but it needs at least the following two things fixed (and possibly others):

• Parameter 1 should be the edition, with permitted values of 1st, 2nd, 3rd only
• The IA links need to be connected to the correct pages using page(2) and/or pageref. All editions have a multipage introduction using lowercase roman numerals. There are no chapters.

The template might benefit from an additional parameter for the name heading under which a quote appears, for the dictionary portion of the work.

Any help you can provide is appreciated. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:13, 10 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

@EncycloPetey: sure, no problem. I suggest not making |1= the edition, but rather requiring |edition= to be used for specifying the 2nd or 3rd edition, and if no edition is specified the template defaults to the 1st edition. This is to provide for the possibility that the 1st edition becomes available online. |1= would then be a synonym for |entry= (the name heading), |2= for |page=, and |3= for |passage=. Does this sound all right? — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:19, 10 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Sgconlaw: I would default to the 3rd edition, as it was the only one printed in large numbers, is still available as a paperback, and is most often the edition meant by people citing the work. But aside from that, whatever changes you think appropriate, I defer to your judgment. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:29, 10 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Sgconlaw: I've done what I can by pulling from analogous templates, but cannot get the entry or edition to function properly. The IA linking also needs to be checked. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:16, 12 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

@EncycloPetey: sorry, have been a bit occupied. Will work on it later today. Since this is a quotation rather than a reference template, the preference is to default to the earliest (1st) edition where possible. I have found it is a lot easier to provide for this from the start, rather than default to a later edition and then reconfigure the template when the 1st edition becomes available. This happened to a large number of templates when the Internet Archive suddenly dropped a whole lot of 1st editions which hadn't previously been available, and it required a lot of bot replacements as page numbering was different between editions. — Sgconlaw (talk) 20:52, 13 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Either way, thanks for the help. I do own a copy of the first edition, if questions arise. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:54, 13 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

@EncycloPetey: OK, I've updated the template—let me know if it works for you. As you have a print copy of the 1st edition, please let me know the page on which the section "Some Common Words Derived from Christian Names" starts on, and I'll put that into the template. — Sgconlaw (talk) 20:01, 14 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. One question: Is the template meant to not display "1st edition" for that edition? --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:04, 14 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

@EncycloPetey: we haven’t been indicating “1st edition” for the 1st editions of works, the assumption being that the 1st edition of a work is quoted unless otherwise stated. It may look somewhat odd if multiple quotations in an entry include the label “1st edition”. — Sgconlaw (talk) 22:55, 14 June 2025 (UTC)Reply