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Converting adjectives
Latest comment: 11 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion
@Wiki.
I can use this module from now on for new adjectives or old ones, as I see you're converting my edits. I won't use {{ru-adj-old}} as I'm not familiar with the pre-reform spelling, I don't have reliable resources and not very keen to do them much. I hope you know what you're doing or check them thoroughly. There's hardly anyone to check pre-reform spellings. Not concerned about transliteration for exceptions either, as this spellings go very far back, to the time before the Moscow shift and borders with Old Russian (orv).
Yes, I created this because I think it's easier to use and also looks better. You don't have to worry about pre-reform spellings, I only add them when I'm sure about them anyway. If you're not sure about how to do something, you can check the test page for examples, but it's pretty straightforward. The only caveat is when adding the short forms, the neuter comes before the feminine, rather than after. As for the frequency lists, I'm too disorganized to do things in order like that. I add words when I come across them or happen to think of them. --WikiTiki8900:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Can I suggest to add categorisations based on declension types? It would also help for noun declensions - to see, which ones belong to which stress pattern and declension type, animacy, spot errors, see frequencies and other grammatical analysis? --Anatoli(обсудить/вклад)00:57, 28 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Forgive me, as I am new to editing Wiktionary, if this is the wrong pace to suggest this, but I think that the table can be better designed to more clearly show its information. The table as a whole should have a white background, and each non-heading table cell should be coloured what the background currently is, as so to create a table that is easier to peruse and view.
The end result would look something like this:
Proposed change
If you agree, let me know and also inform me as to how to go about changing the template....
@Benwing2: Further on the same page: 1882 год: в середине XIX века ещё можно встретить такие формы слов, как рядоваго, втораго (произносились как рядово́го, второ́го), которые к началу XX века были заменены на рядового, второго. --Anatoli T.(обсудить/вклад)22:58, 6 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Atitarev OK, I'm confused now. The quote you just mentioned says that forms like втора́го (and hence presumably больша́го) do occur in the 19th century even though pronounced as -о́го. This doesn't surprise me; the differences between pre-reform and post-reform spellings are purely spelling issues, and the pronunciation didn't suddenly change, so the modern pronunciations must have prevailed (more or less) in the 19th century as well. But our pre-reform conjugations and declensions should reflect the pre-reform spelling, not the pronunciation. Benwing2 (talk) 23:30, 6 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Benwing2: I am confused as well (a little) but getting clearer. It seems the -о́го spellings have become standardised before the 1918 reform (by the beginning of the 20th century). They say that in the middle of the 19th century, -а́гоstill occurred. It's not clear, if they dominated or what the frequency was. I think the best way is to provide both -о́го and -а́го for -о́й adjectives (adjectives with a stressed -о́й ending in the lemma). It may be the case that -а́го was dominating the ecclesiastic texts, not the regular literature. I will check a bit further. The best confirmation might come from e.g. Pushkin's original texts. --Anatoli T.(обсудить/вклад)23:43, 6 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
@Benwing2 Thanks for implementing the alt gen/acc forms!
One more request, please!
оди́нъ(odín) should also have feminine plural forms (a separate column), which disappeared in the modern Russian. Similar to онѣ́(oně́, “they (feminine)”). The declension is the same as masculine/neuter, only the stressed "и́" is replaced with "ѣ́" in all cases, as in this link --Anatoli T.(обсудить/вклад)01:37, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Suppressing inanimate forms for adjective-like surnames
Latest comment: 4 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion
@Atitarev Apologies, I've been busy with work and such and things have been a bit crazy the last few days in Texas :) ... anyway I should be able to get to this today or tomorrow. I also have the vocative plural stuff on my radar as well. Benwing2 (talk) 20:38, 20 February 2021 (UTC)Reply