Template talk:zh-min-nan
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Deletion debate
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All of them should be replaced by ISO codes (specifically {{rup}}, {{nan}} and {{lzh}}). -- Prince Kassad 20:10, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Any reason not to redirect? --Yair rand (talk) 20:13, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- We don't want to encourage people to use them as ISO codes (especially zh-classical, which is a very bad code). -- Prince Kassad 20:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- We do have things like
{{eng}}... --Yair rand (talk) 20:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- We do have things like
- (Note, we did have this when Yair rand wrote this, but
{{eng}}has since failed WT:RFD). Mglovesfun (talk) 12:06, 28 March 2012 (UTC)- Yes, since those are official ISO codes that an editor might use, so we provide redirects since these are not "wrong", just redundant. The ones above are essentially invented by Wikimedia Foundation. -- Prince Kassad 20:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- If we keep zh-classical, roa-rup and zh-min-nan, then how would nrm be read? As Maron (per ISO) or Norman (per Wikimedia)? --Daniel. 20:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Or, for that matter,
{{als}}: Tosk Albanian or Swiss German? -- Prince Kassad 20:32, 21 September 2010 (UTC)- Don't forget the code
{{simple}}. --Daniel. 20:37, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Don't forget the code
- Or, for that matter,
- If we keep zh-classical, roa-rup and zh-min-nan, then how would nrm be read? As Maron (per ISO) or Norman (per Wikimedia)? --Daniel. 20:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, since those are official ISO codes that an editor might use, so we provide redirects since these are not "wrong", just redundant. The ones above are essentially invented by Wikimedia Foundation. -- Prince Kassad 20:25, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- We don't want to encourage people to use them as ISO codes (especially zh-classical, which is a very bad code). -- Prince Kassad 20:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- These (and all the ones at WT:Wikimedia language codes) are used for interwiki templates such as
{{interwiktionary}}. Redirects will therefore not work. A new system could be created (and might be preferable), but these language codes can't be deleted until an alternative is found. --Bequw → τ 01:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)- No, they're not used for interwiki linking. See Template:fiu-vro, which does not exist even though it is a code for a Wikipedia. -- Prince Kassad 06:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oops, you're right. I forgot
{{wikimedia language}}exists ({{interwiktionary}}didn't use it, but ones like{{wikipedia}}do). Delete away. --Bequw → τ 03:46, 23 September 2010 (UTC)- Delete when it is safe to do so (which appears to be right now). Mglovesfun (talk) 15:17, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oops, you're right. I forgot
- Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that
{{t}}does manual translation of nan→zh-min-nan yue→zh-yue cmn→zh. Can it be outfitted to use{{wikimedia language}}? Otherwise we might want to keep the others. --Bequw → τ 23:38, 1 October 2010 (UTC)- Not quite sure what you mean. You seem to be saying that
{{t}}{{t+}}and{{t-}}can already handle this situation, which is correct. Which is why they can be deleted, right? --Mglovesfun (talk) 15:49, 1 April 2011 (UTC)- Right,
{{t}},{{t+}}, and{{t-}}handle language codes without using{{wikimedia language}}. That is not a good thing, as we might add a new language code. As of now, the three translation templates cannot handle the code lzh. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 03:42, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Right,
- Not quite sure what you mean. You seem to be saying that
- No, they're not used for interwiki linking. See Template:fiu-vro, which does not exist even though it is a code for a Wikipedia. -- Prince Kassad 06:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- But they could if we wanted them too, right? zh seems an obvious target. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:36, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
{{t}}and friends handle this without trouble. There's no reason we should need these language templates. -- Liliana • 12:42, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
RFD failed. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:06, 28 March 2012 (UTC)