User talk:Wikitiki89/Fête's pronunciation questions

Do you know that Quebecers pronounce "fight" for the word fête ? Fête (talk) 17:43, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Honestly the difference between and is fairly minor. Wikipedia transcribes it as but I guess would also be acceptable. Only we need to be consistent. --WikiTiki89 18:15, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear , or in the file Media:Fr-hiver-fr CA.ogg ? Fête (talk) 18:31, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hear when I listen closely, but it almost sounds like . --WikiTiki89 19:02, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:FR-Tempête (Gaspésie).ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:14, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hear . Also you don't have to keep starting new sections every time. --WikiTiki89 19:23, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:FR-Tard (Gaspésie).ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:40, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hear , but I can barely hear the /ʁ/. --WikiTiki89 19:48, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Fr-lézard-ca-Montréal.ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:54, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I would say , but you might have to get some second opinions as and are very difficult for me to distinguish. --WikiTiki89 19:59, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Fr-ver-ca-Montréal.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:03, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I would describe it ~more as than , that's why I generally don't like using the breve and prefer . --WikiTiki89 20:06, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Fr-taupe-ca-Montréal.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:47, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I actually hear there. --WikiTiki89 17:47, 30 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Qc-brun.oga ? Fête (talk) 22:41, 2 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

I do hear an R-ish sound but I'm not sure if it is quite . --WikiTiki89 19:46, 3 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Do you know how Quebeckers pronounce the word pas ? Fête (talk) 13:17, 4 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /ˈwɪlsən ˌfʌŋ/ or /ˈwɪlsən ˌfɔŋ/ in the file Media:Wilson Phung.ogg ? Fête (talk) 21:57, 31 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hear . --WikiTiki89 19:59, 2 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /ˈtɛmpɪst/ or /ˈtɛmpɛst/ in the file Media:En-us-tempest.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:26, 3 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Something like . --WikiTiki89 20:39, 3 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file  ? Fête (talk) 16:35, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

--WikiTiki89 17:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Fr-avant.ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:12, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

--WikiTiki89 19:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Fr-Normandie-Wilson.ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:23, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

I think the closest one I can find is --WikiTiki89 19:35, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:En-us-package.ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:59, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hear , but the second syllable sounds like it is over enunciated. --WikiTiki89 20:04, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:FR-CA-tête.oga ? Fête (talk) 20:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

--WikiTiki89 20:11, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Fr-un-fr BE.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:14, 5 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Answer me please ! Fête (talk) 17:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yeah I would say something like . --WikiTiki89 17:11, 9 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Your hear or in the file  ? Fête (talk) 23:03, 9 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Answer me please ! Fête (talk) 15:25, 11 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Relax, I don't have headphones at work and can't listen to it until I get home. --WikiTiki89 15:38, 11 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

I definitely hear but then it cuts off. I don't know if there is an or even an after that. --WikiTiki89 06:46, 12 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file File:Sayonara.ogv ? Fête (talk) 20:29, 19 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

--WikiTiki89 20:47, 19 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /ˈsɝvɪs/ or /ˈsɝvəs/ in the file File:En-us-service.ogg ? Fête (talk) 12:24, 20 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Answer me please. Fête (talk) 23:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

--WikiTiki89 05:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Do you live in Quebec ? Fête (talk) 01:39, 4 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No, but I have been there many times. --WikiTiki89 05:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word ticket can be pronounced /ˈtɪkɛt/ ? Fête (talk) 17:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No. /ɛ/ only exists under primary or secondary stress. It is phonemically reduced to /ə/ or /ɪ/ in unstressed syllables. --WikiTiki89 19:42, 4 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word forest can be pronounced /ˈfɔrɛst/ ? Fête (talk) 22:45, 4 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No for the same reason as a above. --WikiTiki89 07:37, 5 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Muffin is pronounced /ˈmʌfɪn/ or /ˈmʌfən/ ? Fête (talk) 20:50, 5 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Could be either. Depends on accent/dialect. --WikiTiki89 20:52, 5 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word welcome can be pronounced /ˈwɛlkʌm/ ? Fête (talk) 21:40, 5 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

The /ʌ/ is reduced to /ə/. --WikiTiki89 07:59, 6 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word interest can be pronounced /ˈɪntrɪst/ or /ˈɪntrɛst/ ? Fête (talk) 17:11, 6 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/ˈɪnt(ə)rɪst/, /ˈɪnt(ə)rəst/, or /ˈɪnt(ə)ˌrɛst/ --WikiTiki89 20:08, 6 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word o'clock can be pronounced /oʊˈklɑk/ ? Fête (talk) 22:21, 6 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

It can be pronounced /ˈoʊ ˈklɑk/ only when enunciating. In normal speech it is always /əˈklɑk/. --WikiTiki89 22:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /ˈsædnɪs/ or /ˈsædnɛs/ in the file Media:En-us-sadness.ogg ? Fête (talk) 22:48, 6 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

It is /ɪ/. The realization seems to be somewhere in between and , but the phoneme is definitely /ɪ/. --WikiTiki89 00:16, 7 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Ketchup is pronounced /ˈkɛtʃəp/ or /ˈkɛtʃʌp/ ? Fête (talk) 01:50, 7 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

The phoneme is definitely /ə/, but the realization of /ə/ in many accents including mine is usually . --WikiTiki89 08:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word today can be pronounced /tʊˈdeɪ/ ? Fête (talk) 12:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes. --WikiTiki89 12:47, 7 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Quebecers pronounce /kɔ.tei̯dʒ/ for the word cottage. Fête (talk) 17:13, 7 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I assume you mean in French? And is that a question? --WikiTiki89 17:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Kung fu is pronounced /ˌkʌŋ ˈfu/ or /ˌkʊŋ ˈfu/ ? Fête (talk) 18:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/ˌkʌŋ ˈfu/ --WikiTiki89 18:17, 7 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Problem is pronounced /ˈprɑblɛm/ ? Fête (talk) 22:27, 7 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/ˈprɑblɪm/, /ˈprɑbləm/, or /ˈprɑblm̩/ --WikiTiki89 10:07, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Enjoy is pronounced /ɪnˈdʒɔɪ/ ou /ɛnˈdʒɔɪ/ ? Fête (talk) 12:48, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You're basically asking the same questions over and over again. If you haven't found the pattern yet, the answer is /ɪnˈdʒɔɪ/. --WikiTiki89 12:55, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

But the Wiktionary mark /ɪnˈdʒɔɪ/ or /ɛnˈdʒɔɪ/. Fête (talk) 13:05, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You're right. Just fixed it. --WikiTiki89 13:11, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I Think /ɛnˈdʒɔɪ/ is also correct, because the http://www.thefreedictionary.com/enjoy marks /ɛnˈdʒɔɪ/. Fête (talk) 13:14, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/ɛnˈdʒɔɪ/ is hypercorrect and very rarely used other than when enunciating. --WikiTiki89 13:17, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word active can be pronounced /ˈæktəv/ ? Fête (talk) 13:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Maybe in some accents. --WikiTiki89 13:27, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word message can be pronounced /ˈmɛseɪdʒ/ ? Fête (talk) 13:29, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Absolutely not. --WikiTiki89 13:29, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Maybe Indian people. Fête (talk) 13:36, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Maybe Indian people for whom English is not a native language. --WikiTiki89 13:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Do you hear /ˈfɔrɛst/ in the file Media:En-us-forest.ogg ? Fête (talk) 14:11, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/ˈfɔrɪst/. --WikiTiki89 14:28, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Because is pronounced /bɪˈkɔz/ or /bɪˈkʌz/ ? Fête (talk) 14:48, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Either one. --WikiTiki89 14:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Vietnam is pronounced /ˌvjɛt ˈnɑm/ or /ˌviət ˈnɑm/ ? Fête (talk) 16:16, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/ˌvi.ətˈnɑm/ or /ˈvi.ətˌnɑm/. The /ə/ can also be /ɪ/ and the /ɑ/ can also be /æ/. --WikiTiki89 16:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Generally, private is pronounced /ˈpraɪvɪt/ or /ˈpraɪvət/ ? Fête (talk) 16:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

It depends on your accent. --WikiTiki89 16:56, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

How to pronounce Nguyen ? Fête (talk) 19:09, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I have never heard this name pronounced, but I have read somewhere online that it is pronounced /wɪn/. --WikiTiki89 19:18, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

How to pronounce Phung ? Fête (talk) 19:47, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Once again, I don't think I've ever heard this pronounced, but I would assume /fʌŋ/. --WikiTiki89 19:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Stomach is pronounced /ˈstʌmək/ or /ˈstʌmɪk/ ? Fête (talk) 22:37, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Either one, depends on your accent. --WikiTiki89 07:46, 9 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word China can be pronounced /ˈtʃaɪnʌ/ ? Fête (talk) 21:57, 9 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

See #ketchup. --WikiTiki89 22:34, 9 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word fat can be pronounced /fɛt/ ? Fête (talk) 00:08, 10 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No. --WikiTiki89 07:48, 10 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word law can be pronounced /lɑ/ ? Fête (talk) 11:52, 10 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes, but only in accents with both the w:Cot-caught merger and the w:Father-bother merger. --WikiTiki89 13:25, 10 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

In Quebec French, progresse is pronounced or  ? Fête (talk) 22:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No idea. --WikiTiki89 07:01, 11 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

In Quebec French, caisse is pronounced or  ? Fête (talk) 11:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I assume , but maybe you should be asking a native speaker of Quebec French? --WikiTiki89 12:00, 11 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Fr-terre-ca-Montréal.ogg ? Fête (talk) 12:32, 11 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

. --WikiTiki89 22:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Flower and flour are pronounced as the same way ? Fête (talk) 23:04, 11 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes, in fact they have the same etymology but are spelled differently only to distinguish meaning. --WikiTiki89 07:34, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word person can be pronounced /ˈpɝsɪn/ ? Fête (talk) 22:19, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes. --WikiTiki89 22:37, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

The word bank can be pronounced /bɛŋk/ ? Fête (talk) 23:34, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Maybe in some accents. In my accent, is the normal realization of /æŋ/ and it is pronounced . --WikiTiki89 23:38, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

For and four are pronounced differently ? Fête (talk) 23:44, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

In most major accents they are exactly the same. In a few rare accents they are different. See w:Horse-hoarse merger. --WikiTiki89 00:13, 13 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Love can be pronounced  ? Fête (talk) 00:33, 13 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Maybe in some accents where /ʌ/ is realized as , but I don't know any off the top of my head. But the phoneme is clearly /ʌ/, thus /lʌv/. --WikiTiki89 00:47, 13 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Why American people pronounce /ˌlɑnʒəˈreɪ/ for the word lingerie ? Fête (talk) 22:16, 13 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

To try to pretend that they can speak French. --WikiTiki89 07:56, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

In French, lingerie is pronounced /lɛ̃ʒʁi/. Fête (talk) 08:44, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

That's why I said "pretend". Anyway /ɛ̃/ is sometimes pronounced more like (thus /ɑn/ in English). It's the /eɪ/ that I don't understand (maybe because a lot of English words that in in -y/-ie, end in -é in French). --WikiTiki89 09:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Regular is pronounced /ˈɹɛɡjʊlɚ/ or /ˈɹɛɡjəlɚ/ ? Fête (talk) 15:06, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Either one. They're basically the same thing. --WikiTiki89 15:27, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word coconut can be pronounced /ˈkoʊkoʊnʌt/ ? Fête (talk) 16:14, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No. --WikiTiki89 19:58, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

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I don’t hear the difference between fight and fête. Fête (talk) 20:25, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Is that a question? --WikiTiki89 20:27, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

There is a difference ? Fête (talk) 20:32, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You're right there's pretty much no difference. --WikiTiki89 20:35, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word alphabet can be pronounced /ˈælfəbɪt/ ? Fête (talk) 21:01, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Maybe, but in my experience it's usually /ˈælfəˌbɛt/. --WikiTiki89 21:04, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Outlet is pronounced /ˈaʊtˌlɛt/ or /ˈaʊtlɪt/ ? Fête (talk) 21:28, 14 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/ˈaʊtlɪt/. There is rarely stress on two syllables in a row. --WikiTiki89 06:36, 15 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Do you speak French with an Quebec accent ? Fête (talk) 12:41, 15 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I speak French with an American accent. --WikiTiki89 12:47, 15 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word temperature can be pronounced /ˈtɛmpəɹəˌtʃʊɹ/ ? Fête (talk) 14:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes, see my edit. --WikiTiki89 14:26, 15 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Coq au vin is pronounced "coke oh van" in English ? Fête (talk) 23:52, 15 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Probably something like that, but I've never heard it in English; I've only heard it in French. --WikiTiki89 07:28, 16 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word restaurant can be pronounced /ˈɹɛstɹənt/ ? Fête (talk) 13:58, 16 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No. --WikiTiki89 19:37, 16 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

But http://www.thefreedictionary.com/restaurant marks /ˈɹɛstəˌɹɑnt/ or /ˈɹɛstəɹənt/. Fête (talk) 19:42, 16 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Then maybe, but I've never heard that. --WikiTiki89 19:50, 16 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word kung fu can be pronounced /ˌkʊŋ ˈfuː/ ? Fête (talk) 20:12, 16 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

See #kung fu above. --WikiTiki89 20:24, 16 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

But http://www.thefreedictionary.com/kung+fu marks /ˌkʌŋ ˈfuː/, /ˌkʊŋ ˈfuː/ or /ˌɡʊŋ ˈfuː/. Fête (talk) 22:06, 16 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Maybe you should bring this up in the Tea Room to ask if anyone has ever heard /ˌkʊŋ ˈfuː/ or /ˌɡʊŋ ˈfuː/. I certainly haven't. --WikiTiki89 06:10, 17 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Listen here http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=kung+fu&submit=Submit Fête (talk) 11:46, 17 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Finding an obscure website with some unusual pronunciation is not a good way to verify it. Like I said, you should ask about this in the Tea Room. --WikiTiki89 12:02, 17 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Kung fu is pronounced /ˌkʊŋ ˈfuː/ in Chinese. Fête (talk) 12:17, 17 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

English is not Chinese. --WikiTiki89 12:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Why Quebeckers pronounce /kɔŋfu/ instead of /kuŋfu/ ? Fête (talk) 00:48, 18 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Probably under influence of English. --WikiTiki89 01:25, 18 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word Sunday can be pronounced /ˈsʌndi/ ? But I have never heard that. Fête (talk) 17:10, 17 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

In some accents, yes. --WikiTiki89 17:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Can the word explain be pronounced /ɛksˈpleɪn/ ? Fête (talk) 01:33, 18 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

See #enjoy above. --WikiTiki89 01:40, 18 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Can the word earnest be pronouned /ˈɝnɛst/ ? Fête (talk) 01:44, 18 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

See #ticket above. --WikiTiki89 06:28, 18 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

But Wiktionary marks /ˈɜ(ɹ)nɪst/ and /ˈɜ(ɹ)nɛst/. Fête (talk) 11:59, 18 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Can the word buttock be pronounced /ˈbʌtɑk/ ? Fête (talk) 00:38, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No. --WikiTiki89 08:47, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

But I have already heard. Fête (talk) 13:13, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Where? --WikiTiki89 14:13, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

In American English, fête is pronounced /feɪt/ or /fɛt/ ? Fête (talk) 14:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

American English speakers tend to pronounce English words, not French words. --WikiTiki89 14:46, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

The word fête exists also in English. Fête (talk) 14:49, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I would say no it doesn't. It's just another French word that English speakers like to use to sound fancy, which by Wiktionary standards makes it an English word. But as for the pronunciation, this means that there is no real pronunciation so people pronounce how they think it should be pronounced, which is usually either /feɪt/ or /fɛt/. --WikiTiki89 14:53, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

How do you pronounce the word fête in French ? Fête (talk) 15:17, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I pronounce it /fɛt/ unless I am trying to speak with a Quebec accent. --WikiTiki89 15:19, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Do you knew how Quebeckers pronounce the word pas ? Fête (talk) 17:46, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I'm guessing it's something like /pɑɔ̯/? --WikiTiki89 18:15, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No, /pɔ/. Fête (talk) 18:16, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Well the details depend on subdialect. Like Montreal will be different from Quebec City. --WikiTiki89 18:18, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

In Quebec City, fête is pronounced or  ? Fête (talk) 18:37, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I've heard it both ways. --WikiTiki89 18:38, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Do you have already lived in Quebec City ? Fête (talk) 18:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No but I visited. I've been to Montreal more times though. --WikiTiki89 18:44, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

The word arrête is pronounced in Quebec City and in Montreal. Fête (talk) 19:06, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I think the word waitress can be pronounced /ˈweɪtɹɛs/. Fête (talk) 19:31, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No. --WikiTiki89 20:37, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes, listen here http://www.forvo.com/word/waitress/#en Fête (talk) 21:02, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hear /ˈweɪtɹɪs/.

Just to clarify a little: English has a separate set vowel inventory for stressed and unstressed syllables (as do all languages with stress-based vowel reduction). While /ɪ/ and /ɛ/ are two separate vowels in the stressed syllable inventory, they merge in the unstressed inventory to something less distinct in between the two, which on Wiktionary we represent as /ɪ/, but some dictionaries use an entirely different symbol for it such as /ɨ/ or /ᵻ/. Thus fascist and rashest rhyme. If someone pronounces rashest as , this person will also pronounce fascist as . Since pairs like -ist and -est, -is and ess, etc. have the same vowel sound, they are transcribed with the same IPA character. --WikiTiki89 21:45, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hear /ˈhʌndɹɛd/ in the last audio in http://www.forvo.com/word/hundred/#en Fête (talk) 21:56, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Did you read what I just said at #waitress above? --WikiTiki89 21:57, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes. Fête (talk) 22:16, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Its means that /ˈhʌndɹɛd/ is not a wrong pronunciation ? Fête (talk) 22:18, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

It means that /ˈhʌndɹɛd/ is a wrong way to represent the pronunciation . --WikiTiki89 22:21, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Can the word cousin be pronounced /ˈkʌzɪn/ ? Fête (talk) 23:35, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Once again, it's the same thing phonemically. --WikiTiki89 23:39, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Because the "or" of the word portrait is pronounced /oɹ/ without the horse-hoarse merger. If you are not OK, see Appendix:English pronunciation. Fête (talk) 00:39, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I know the horse-hoarse merger, but I'm pretty sure portrait is the horse vowel. --WikiTiki89 00:43, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

See http://www.thefreedictionary.com/portrait Fête (talk) 00:47, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

That gives the hoarse vowel as an alternative pronunciation. Also, I'm not sure how reliable that dictionary is. oxfordictionaries.com and Webster's give only the horse vowel pronunciation. --WikiTiki89 00:54, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

In Quebec French, is a formal pronunciation or informal pronunciation for the word autre ? Fête (talk) 12:05, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I don't know from firsthand experience, but from what I've read, it's formal. --WikiTiki89 12:10, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

is a informal pronunciation for the word fête ? Fête (talk) 13:09, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Again, I don't know from firsthand experience, but from what I've read, this one is informal. --WikiTiki89 13:26, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Where do you read ? Fête (talk) 13:31, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I don't remember. --WikiTiki89 13:45, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Why Quebeckers pronounce for the word renne ? Fête (talk) 14:01, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

How would I know? --WikiTiki89 14:05, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Toé is pronounced /twe/, if you are not OK, listen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te69JK28DDo Fête (talk) 14:41, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

In that video I hear something between and . So I don't know where you are getting from. --WikiTiki89 15:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No, the last sentence of this video (Attention à toé. Bonne fight !). Fête (talk) 15:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Oh, but still, if you listen to how he says année, the vowel is much higher than the one when he says toé. --WikiTiki89 15:06, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQAO0F4PWDA Fête (talk) 15:31, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

It's difficult to compare in that one. You have to find a clip where it is easy to compare words with final /e/ and words with final /ɛ/ to compare both of them to toé. --WikiTiki89 15:59, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or for the word peut-être in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te69JK28DDo Fête (talk) 21:41, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hear . --WikiTiki89 22:40, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Halloween is pronounced /ˌhæloʊˈin/ or /ˌhæləˈwin/ ? Fête (talk) 15:14, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I think those are both correct ways of analyzing the same sound. But I think the second one is more correct. --WikiTiki89 15:32, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/twe/ is correct, because the letter é is pronounced /e/ and the French Wiktionary marks /twe/. Fête (talk) 15:42, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

That's just how they spell it. Colloquial speech is not always spelled according to normal rules, otherwise toé would be pronounced /to.é/. --WikiTiki89 15:53, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Can the word lung be pronounce  ? Fête (talk) 16:04, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Absolutely not. --WikiTiki89 16:41, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Do you hear in the file Media:En-us-lung.ogg ? Fête (talk) 16:48, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No, I hear . --WikiTiki89 16:53, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /ɾoɕia/ or /loɕia/ in the file Media:Ja-Roshia.ogg ? Fête (talk) 17:11, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I don't know much about Japanese so I don't know. --WikiTiki89 17:30, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Do you feel Luc Bourgeois has not a Quebec accent ? See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZC1K8hnCls Fête (talk) 17:37, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

He definitely does. Maybe he's trying to speak a little more formally? --WikiTiki89 17:48, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /sʊŋ/ or /sɔŋ/ in the file Media:Yue-送.oga ? Fête (talk) 17:49, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I don't know much about Chinese either. --WikiTiki89 18:01, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

What do you hear ? Fête (talk) 18:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

It's hard to tell because I don't know much about Chinese. --WikiTiki89 18:04, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Maybe /sʊŋ/. Fête (talk) 18:17, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /ˈbɹɛkfəst/ or /ˈbɹɛkfɪst/ in the file Media:En-us-breakfast.ogg ? Fête (talk) 18:35, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/ˈbɹɛkfɪst/ --WikiTiki89 19:04, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Do you know it's a male voice or female voice in the file Media:Qc-temps des fêtes.ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:19, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Almost sounds like a computer voice. --WikiTiki89 20:01, 23 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /fæt/ or /fɛt/ in the file Media:Fat.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:31, 23 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/fæt/. --WikiTiki89 21:05, 23 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /kɑːnt/ or /kɒnt/ in the file Media:En-uk-can't.ogg ? Fête (talk) 21:10, 23 December 2012 (UTC) Phonemically it is /kɑːnt/. I'm not an expert on British accents, but it is plausible that some speakers might round it to . --WikiTiki89 21:18, 23 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the second audio of the file http://www.forvo.com/word/tête/#fr ? Fête (talk) 21:20, 23 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

. --WikiTiki89 21:41, 23 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Qc-fête.oga ? Fête (talk) 21:56, 23 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Answer me please. Fête (talk) 00:13, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

--WikiTiki89 00:15, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file http://www.forvo.com/word/guerres/#fr ? Fête (talk) 00:51, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Something in between like . Is there a point to these questions by the way? --WikiTiki89 00:56, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes. Fête (talk) 01:02, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

And what is that point? --WikiTiki89 01:03, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Because it's difficult to hear. Fête (talk) 01:06, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file http://www.forvo.com/word/honnêtes/#fr ? Merry Christmas ! Fête (talk) 01:06, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Something like . What I meant before was, is there a reason you need to transcribe these audio samples? Merry Christmas to you, too! (I actually don't celebrate Christmas since I am Jewish.) --WikiTiki89 01:14, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

is a formal or informal pronunciation of the word fort in Quebec French ? Fête (talk) 01:17, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I don't know. --WikiTiki89 01:19, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I think it's neither formal nor informal. Fête (talk) 01:27, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Qc-Fête.oga ? Fête (talk) 01:27, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Length is relative and there is nothing to compare it to. --WikiTiki89 01:28, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Franco-Ontarian people have a Quebec accent ? Fête (talk) 02:42, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

If they're from Quebec, yes. Otherwise no. --WikiTiki89 02:44, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

In which region the word fête is pronounced /fɛːt/ in Quebec ? Fête (talk) 02:49, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

w:Quebec French#Regional varieties and their classification. --WikiTiki89 02:57, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

But /fɛːt/ is not in there. Fête (talk) 02:59, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Qc-je ne comprends pas.oga ? Fête (talk) 15:01, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Something more like . --WikiTiki89 15:04, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Wilson is a first name or last name ? Fête (talk) 15:27, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Both. --WikiTiki89 15:41, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

What's the difference between /ɹ/ or /ɻ/ ? Fête (talk) 21:03, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/ɹ/ is alveolar, while /ɻ/ is retroflex. --WikiTiki89 21:24, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

It's pronounced as the same way ? Fête (talk) 21:29, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

The difference is similar to that between /s/ and /ʂ/. --WikiTiki89 21:30, 24 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Regarding the use of these symbols on Wiktionary: years ago (before my time) some users argued that US "r" was /ɻ/ rather than merely , and entered a number of broad transcriptions accordingly. In the years since then, other users (myself included) have taken to converting them to the usual /ɹ/ whenever we find them. - -sche (discuss) 21:21, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file http://www.forvo.com/word/kung_fu/#yue ? Fête (talk) 00:57, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

See #sung3 above. --WikiTiki89 01:09, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear , or for the letter R in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YSvZ2hl3lc ? Fête (talk) 01:37, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

. --WikiTiki89 02:03, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Fr-quatre-vingts-2.oga ? Fête (talk) 15:11, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hear . --WikiTiki89 15:25, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Fr-Rare-fr-Paris.ogg ? Fête (talk) 15:38, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

. --WikiTiki89 16:01, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /sɛŋks.ɡi.viŋ/ or /sɛŋks.ɡi.viŋɡ/ in the file Media:Fr-Normandie-Thanksgiving.ogg ? Fête (talk) 17:12, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hear . --WikiTiki89 17:21, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Fr-Bonne fête.oga ? Fête (talk) 17:33, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

. But why does it matter? --WikiTiki89 17:40, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Why Quebeckers pronounce for the word hamster ? Hamster is not a word of English origin. Fête (talk) 18:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Maybe because it is perceived to be? --WikiTiki89 22:03, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Peut-tight. Fête (talk) 23:37, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Toyota is pronounced /tɔɪˈoʊtə/ or /toʊˈjoʊtə/ ? Fête (talk) 13:59, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Either /tɔɪˈjoʊtə/ or /təˈjoʊtə/. --WikiTiki89 14:04, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Samsung is pronounced /ˈsæmsʌŋ/ or /ˈsæmsʊŋ/ ? Fête (talk) 17:18, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

/ˈsæmˌsʌŋ/. --WikiTiki89 17:52, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Why French people pronounce patte and pâte as the same way ? Fête (talk) 16:17, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Why do British people pronounce paw and pore the same way? --WikiTiki89 17:46, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Because they don't pronounce the r after a vowel. Fête (talk) 18:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Do you have a video of someone who pronounce  ? Fête (talk) 18:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No. --WikiTiki89 18:29, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You can check in Youtube. Fête (talk) 18:41, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You can too. --WikiTiki89 18:43, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:FR-boîte (Gaspésie).ogg ? Fête (talk) 19:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

. --WikiTiki89 19:47, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Does the word boîte can be pronounced  ? Fête (talk) 19:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I have no idea. --WikiTiki89 19:59, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear , . or in the file Media:FR-Tempête (Gaspésie).ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:03, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I guess is the closest. --WikiTiki89 20:07, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Can the word carbon be pronounced /ˈkɑɹbɑn/ ? Fête (talk) 22:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

No. --WikiTiki89 22:24, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Can the word robot be pronounced /ˈɹoʊbət/ ? Fête (talk) 22:58, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Maybe. --WikiTiki89 23:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

In Quebec French, fête is marked or  ? Fête (talk) 23:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Here on Wiktionary, we do not use "ᵋ". --WikiTiki89 23:27, 27 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear , or in the file Media:Qc-peut-être.ogg ? Fête (talk) 15:17, 28 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

--WikiTiki89 17:45, 28 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /səˈskætʃəwən/ or /həˈskætʃəwən/ in the file Media:En-ca-Saskatchewan.ogg ? Fête (talk) 23:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

It just sounds like the recording starts after he started speaking. --WikiTiki89 14:29, 29 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear /lə/ or /lœ/ in the file Media:Fr-le.ogg ? Fête (talk) 20:18, 29 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I hear , but the phoneme is still /lə/. --WikiTiki89 20:30, 29 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Button is pronounced /ˈbʌtn̩/ or /ˈbʌtən/ ? Fête (talk) 21:29, 29 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

The phoneme is the same; the realization depends on dialect. --WikiTiki89 21:31, 29 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear , or in the file Media:FR QC une fête.ogg ? Fête (talk) 00:50, 30 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

I'd guess . --WikiTiki89 01:24, 30 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:En-us-hand.ogg ? Fête (talk) 01:47, 30 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Definitely . --WikiTiki89 01:58, 30 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Fr-automne-fr CA.ogg ? Fête (talk) 18:41, 30 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:Qc-même-standard.ogg ? Fête (talk) 00:45, 1 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

. --WikiTiki89 13:57, 2 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

I've never heard . Listen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzwHVrMHYh8 64.18.87.72 17:08, 15 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

You hear or in the file Media:FQ-caisse.ogg ? 198.105.111.50 22:59, 8 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

You hear or  ? 198.105.102.113 22:52, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

I hear , but if you keep asking me these things I'll block you again. --WikiTiki89 00:24, 23 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

• w:Quebec French#Sociolinguistic status of selected phonological traits

For the diphthongization, it's written "their frequency is higher among uneducated speakers", but I don't think so, Quebec teachers use the diphthongization in my school. 138.229.21.208 00:39, 8 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

The source cited is Le français québécois: normes et usages by Luc Ostiguy. Maybe you should go read that. --WikiTiki89 02:46, 8 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

But the teachers generally pronounce for pâte, but for tête. 138.229.21.208 19:07, 8 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

I don't understand why the teachers continue to diphthongize. 138.229.21.208 00:46, 9 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Why don't you ask the teachers, then? --WikiTiki89 04:22, 9 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

I have already asked them, they told me that they have the right to diphthongize. 138.229.21.208 12:31, 9 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Why tête is considered as a nonstandard pronunciation ? But not letter  ? 138.229.21.208 19:40, 9 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

I don't know. --WikiTiki89 02:31, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Because is strange ? 138.229.21.208 15:47, 11 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

is far from . 138.229.21.208 22:41, 12 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

If someone pronounce the word basket as , is it a wrong prounciation ? 138.229.21.208 14:42, 13 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

• File:En-us-behaviour.ogg

This pronunciation is incorrect ? 138.229.21.208 23:29, 15 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Well, it's hard to say what "incorrect" means, but this pronunciation is certainly very rare (because of the last syllable). --WikiTiki89 23:44, 15 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

• http://forvo.com/word/sausage/#en

Hi Mr. Wikitiki89! Artypolarbear pronounce it , this pronunciation is correct too? 162.247.127.42 14:00, 16 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

You've already asked Chuck this question and he has given you a better answer than I could have. --WikiTiki89 14:27, 18 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

He told me that is correct. Fête Phung (talk) 17:44, 18 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Mr. Wikitiki89! In fact, you've heard or ? Fête Phung (talk) 21:32, 1 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

I've only heard (no devoicing either). --WikiTiki89 16:58, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

I meant the British pronunciation. Fête Phung (talk) 21:32, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

I never paid attention to the way British people say this word. --WikiTiki89 21:51, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

• http://forvo.com/word/sausage/#en

In fact, Artypolarbear said it or ? Fête Phung (talk) 22:34, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello Mr. Wikitiki89! In fact, I have heard . Fête Phung (talk) 17:06, 6 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

In artypolarbear's pronunciation, I hear . There is devoicing only at the very end of the affricate, but most of it is voiced. --WikiTiki89 17:11, 6 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

It's more open than , maybe . Fête Phung (talk) 17:19, 6 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I agree that the vowel is a little bit more open. However, I think that is a feature of her particular accent, and has nothing to do with the letter a. --WikiTiki89 17:49, 6 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello Mr. Wikitiki89! Have you heard ? Fête Phung (talk) 14:12, 8 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello Mr. Wikitiki89! The majority of American pronounce it , but is there some American pronounce it ? Fête Phung (talk) 01:23, 19 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Yes. In fact, is how I pronounce it. But you must realize that people who pronounce Kevin as , also pronounce Evan as . --WikiTiki89 14:53, 19 May 2016 (UTC)Reply