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- 1. "cx" is shorter to type and read than "context" or "label" (
{{context}}
, {{label}}
), making the context itself such as "colloquial" stand out more, such as in "cx|colloquial" vs. "context|colloquial".
- 2. The provision of language directly without the use of "lang=" is used by
{{l}}
and {{m}}
; if {{m}}
becomes the standard template via Wiktionary:Votes/2014-08/Migrating from Template:term to Template:m, making {{cx}}
work the same way would be worthwhile.
--Dan Polansky (talk) 08:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
{{lb}}
already has the syntax you're proposing for {{cx}}
, and it's the same length. Why not switch straight over to it instead? —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:10, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
- Why should the idea of "label" be preferred over "context"? Whether
{{lb}}
already has anything is immaterial; copying the code from {{lb}}
to {{cx}}
is a cinch. What matters is the syntax we want to see in the wikicode. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:15, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
- I prefer "label" because so many of these labels aren't contexts, like "transitive" and "intransitive", or regional dialect labels. But the main point is, surely it's easier to convert
{{context|biology|lang=de}}
straight to {{lb|de|biology}}
than to convert it first to {{cx|biology|lang=de}}
, then change how the syntax of {{cx}}
works, then change the tag to {{cx|de|biology}}
, which will leave a lot of tags broken for a long time until a bot gets around to adapting them to the new syntax. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:25, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
- Please read the vote again. We won't be converting to
{{cx|biology|lang=de}}
; we will be converting straight to {{cx|de|biology}}
. If this passes, we first make sure {{cx}}
is nowhere used, then change the template code, and then run bots to get {{cx|de|biology}}
. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:32, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
- Okay, but it still seems faster to just go straight to
{{lb|de|biology}}
. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:33, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
- Totally, this vote needs to recognise that what it's proposing already exists. Renard Migrant (talk) 12:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
- No, there is no consensus now to go to
{{cx}}
and abandon all other markup for context labels ({{lb}}
, {{context}}
, {{label}}
. Going to {{cx}}
is technically almost as fast as going to {{lb}}
. But if we actually want to see {{lb}}
in the wikicode, then fine. But it is all about what we want to see in the wikicode; there is no technical necessity to see one thing or another. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
- The word "label" is more general, properly describing some of the tags we use, such as uncountable, intransitive, etc., which are not really "contexts". --WikiTiki89 14:00, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
- I created Wiktionary:Votes/2014-08/Templates context and label to clarify this. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
- I have stared the vote, since the poll is not going anywhere. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)Reply