Wiktionary talk:Votes/2016-02/Multiple pronunciation sections
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Pinging participants of the discussion
I'm pinging the participants of Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2016/January#About: Pronunciation 1, Pronunciation 2, Pronunciation 3.
Let me know if the vote looks good, what would you change, what options you would add, etc.
@Benwing2, DCDuring, I'm so meta even this acronym, Angr, Korn, Andrew Sheedy, CodeCat, Wikitiki89, Eirikr
--Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:32, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- For proposal 4, I think it should be something like this: "Etymology sections cannot be nested under pronunciation sections", with no alternate proposal. What you put is kind of meaningless. --WikiTiki89 02:42, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Done --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:44, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think you really understood what I meant, but I fixed it. --WikiTiki89 02:55, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- I would like to have no separate Pronunciation 1, Pronunciation 2, etc. but make an exception for Japanese kana entries. Benwing2 (talk) 02:53, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Benwing2: Can you give an example of such a Japanese kana entry? --WikiTiki89 02:55, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- The example of まく is one that was given in Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2016/January#About: Pronunciation 1, Pronunciation 2, Pronunciation 3. I argued that these should be organized by etymology but the Japanese editors argued that kana entries are special cases that are present specifically to indicate pronunciation. I'm willing to make an exception for these but I don't think we should have "Pronunciation N" sections (or plain "Pronunciation" sections) in general. Benwing2 (talk) 02:59, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- That makes sense. Each sense is a different etymology it seems. I think we can just add that special exceptions may be made for particular languages. Really, I would say, though, that the pronunciation sections in those kana entries are a different kind of pronunciation section than the one discussed in this vote. But making such a distinction would be too confusing. --WikiTiki89 03:08, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- I added the proposal of making an exception for Japanese. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:10, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Can we not do that? I think we should have a generalized exception like the one I just mentioned. --WikiTiki89 03:26, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- I just implemented my suggestion. Any objections? --WikiTiki89 03:30, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- It looks good to me. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 14:49, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- So proposal 4 is a vote on whether Pronunciation sections or etymology sections should be higher up in the hierarchy? Korn (talk) 22:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Essentially, but not exactly. Since a single pronunciation section is still allowed at the top of a page, followed by multiple etymology sections. --WikiTiki89 16:28, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- So proposal 4 is a vote on whether Pronunciation sections or etymology sections should be higher up in the hierarchy? Korn (talk) 22:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- It looks good to me. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 14:49, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- I just implemented my suggestion. Any objections? --WikiTiki89 03:30, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Can we not do that? I think we should have a generalized exception like the one I just mentioned. --WikiTiki89 03:26, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- I added the proposal of making an exception for Japanese. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:10, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- That makes sense. Each sense is a different etymology it seems. I think we can just add that special exceptions may be made for particular languages. Really, I would say, though, that the pronunciation sections in those kana entries are a different kind of pronunciation section than the one discussed in this vote. But making such a distinction would be too confusing. --WikiTiki89 03:08, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- The example of まく is one that was given in Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2016/January#About: Pronunciation 1, Pronunciation 2, Pronunciation 3. I argued that these should be organized by etymology but the Japanese editors argued that kana entries are special cases that are present specifically to indicate pronunciation. I'm willing to make an exception for these but I don't think we should have "Pronunciation N" sections (or plain "Pronunciation" sections) in general. Benwing2 (talk) 02:59, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Benwing2: Can you give an example of such a Japanese kana entry? --WikiTiki89 02:55, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
