Module talk:labels/data/subvarieties

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@Victar, Julia: Please stop edit-warring and discuss. I'm not clear on what's going on, so try explaining. (And Victar, there was no reason to leave a condescending edit summary.) —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 16:39, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

I'm just trying to match dialect categories to etymology languages, using the data at that module. It makes the website easier to navigate, so we can have for example Category:Terms derived from Digor within the Category:Digor Ossetian category. Also there wouldn't be redlinks in the family tree at Category:Ossetian language. I understand that the different names could be better suited for different functions, but in my opinion the increased navigability is more important. Julia 16:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Digor is a dialect of Ossetian, not its own language, so Category:Terms derived from Digor would be inappropriate. That's like having a Category:Terms derived from American category. Just because you have some whim opinion on this, doesn't mean you should go and make change without consulting anyone that works in Ossetian. --{{victar|talk}} 17:36, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
The etymology name was already "Digor", so if we had any terms derived from it they would have populated Category:Terms derived from Digor before I made any changes. Anyways I still think that we should have the etymology-only language category and the category populated by {{lb|os|Digor}} be the same, whether it's Category:Digor or Category:Digor Ossetian. Julia 18:07, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
And that's unfortunate, which is why I would opt to write {{der|en|os}} instead. Etymology-only language categories have been discussed, but it'll probably never going to be a thing due to all the work required. Maybe a plain_categories field in Module:etymology_languages is a possibility. @Erutuon --{{victar|talk}} 18:17, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
I'd suggest renaming os-dig in Module:etymology languages/data from "Digor" to "Digor Ossetian" so that it matches the category name that User:Victar prefers here. — Eru·tuon 18:23, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Erutuon: That doesn't work well for descendants list, which becomes even more apparent with languages with tons of dialects, like Kermanic. No go on that. --{{victar|talk}} 18:26, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Victar: Well, I don't have any other ideas besides some magic to add "Ossetian" after "Digor" in the "derived from" type categories and the etymology language category and not in descendant lists, which I don't know makes sense. — Eru·tuon 19:00, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Erutuon: So is adding a plain_categories field simply not in the cards? --{{victar|talk}} 04:27, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Victar: You mean in Module:etymology languages/data to change the name in "derived from" categories and the main etymology language category (though the latter might not be affected by language data)? I'm wondering whether "Digor" or "Digor Ossetian" would be the exception; in etymologies which should it be? — Eru·tuon 05:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Flemish

I think with ‘Flemish’ and ‘Flanders’ people generally mean Southern Dutch. I certainly do. I propose to change that alias. H. (talk) 14:48, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Slavic branches

Can we add East, West and South Slavic, akin to what we have for the Germanic varieties? E.g. *verdьnъ is South Slavic–only. — 69.120.64.15 03:23, 31 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Fula Varieties

I think it would be a good idea to add the various dialects of Fula. I am not really a coder but I basically understand how this should work.

The language-tag for Fula is the ISO 639-1 tag "ff".

Dialects listed under ISO 639-3 are as follows: ffm Maasina Fulfulde fub Adamawa Fulfulde fuc Pulaar fue Borgu Fulfulde fuf Pular fuh Western Niger Fulfulde fui Bagirmi Fulfulde fuq Central-Eastern Niger Fulfulde fuv Nigerian Fulfulde

See: ] Hk5183 (talk) 16:58, 26 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

ISO is usually not especially good at this kind of thing. Before adding dialect labels, we should figure out for ourselves how the Fula dialects ought to be divided and labelled. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 17:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Northumbrian English/Old English

I've noticed that when modern English terms are labelled "Northumbria", the label links to w:Northumbria, which is misleading because that article is about the historical kingdom rather than the modern region (w:Northumbria (modern)). I don't really know how to edit these modules, but is it possible for the Northumbria label to have a different Wikipedia link when used with English/Old English (possibly to w:Northumbrian dialect for the former and w:Northumbrian Old English for the latter)? Ajmint (talk) 14:42, 11 December 2021 (UTC)Reply