Talk:flother
RFV discussion: August–November 2023
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Rfv-sense: (hapax, obsolete) A snowflake. If this is indeed a hapax as the entry claims, then it automatically doesn't meet the CFI. But even then, the one quotation the OED has for this isn't even Modern English (it's from the 13th century). lattermint (talk) 17:52, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
RFV-failed This, that and the other (talk) 04:25, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
Other senses
I can't find these senses, either:
- (obsolete, Lancashire, uncountable) Nonsensical talk.
- (obsolete outside placenames, Cumberland, Northumbria, countable) A miry bog.
- ^ Dialect of South Lancashire, or Tim Bobbin's Tummus and Meary, revised and corrected, with his rhymes, and an enlarged glossary. of words and phrases, chiefly used by the rural population of the manufacturing districts of South Lancashire. Samuel Bamford. John Heywood, Printer, Heywood, 1850.
- ^ A Glossary of the Dialect of the Hundred of Lonsdale: North and South of the Sands in the County of Lancaster, Together with an Essay On Some Leading Characteristics of the Dialects Spoken in the Six Northern Counties of England (ancient Northumbria). Robert Backhouse Peacock, ed J.C. Atkinson, Philological Society. Asher & Co, London, 1850.
- ^ A Glossary of the Words and Phrases of Cumberland. William Dickinson. Callander & Dixon, Whitehaven; John Russell Smith, London: 1859.
- ^ English Place-Name Society, volume 83 (2007), page 14: Flot(t)erker 1430, Flotter Carr 1580, 'marsh with or near a water-channel', v. *flōdor, ker, cf. ModE dial flother 'swamp, a boggy place liable to overflow in wet seasons', very common in f.ns. in Northumberland, e.g. Robinson Flothers, Henshaw,
- ^ Godfrey Watson, Goodwife Hot, and Others: Northumberland's Past (1970), page 75: The Flothers, near Slaley, however, takes its name from a Swamp, that is to say where water flows over,
(Preserving the references here because I'm about to RFV the senses.) The EDD has two sites of "nonsensical talk" but they're both spelled vlother:
- 1825, Jennings, Obs. dial. w. Eng., 164:
- Tom Gool war shower to be a tâkin vlother vast awâ.
- 1867, Rock, Jim an' Nell, st. 82:
- Why did 'a bother / Me wi' 'es tutties an' es vlother.