Wiktionary:Votes/bc-2024-12/A few users for debureaucratization

Voting on: removal of bureaucrat rights from the following users:

• Paul G (talk • contribs • rights)
• Hippietrail (talk • contribs • rights)
• SemperBlotto (talk • contribs • rights)
• EncycloPetey (talk • contribs • rights)

Schedule:

• Vote starts: 17:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Vote ends: 23:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Vote created: Svārtava (tɕ) 17:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

1. Support as proposer. Svārtava (tɕ) 17:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

   Rationale:

   • According to WT:B, we currently have eight bureaucrats and the four bureaucrats listed above are inactive as bureaucrats and administrators (verifiable by Special:Log) and were given the rights 1.5 decades ago.
   • Bureaucrats only have the extra power to add and remove sysop, interface admin and bot rights from an account.
   • These right changes (usually by passing votes or inactivity policy) are not too many on Wiktionary and are easily well-managed by the more active bureaucrats; most administrator and bot right changes are done by one of the more active bureaucrats only.
   • Thus, having four bureaucrats is more than sufficient for our community, and having more (especially those who are inactive at intervals) increases security risk and is not needed.
   • In a rare case of admin becoming rogue, at present, any admin can block another admin and the blocked admin will be unable to do any admin actions or unblock themselves, thus preventing any damage and reducing the need of a bureaucrat to be present at the moment for instant desysopping.

   So I think that bureaucrat rights from the four bureaucrats mentioned in this vote should be removed as general maintenance, with no offense intended. (For comparison, the bureaucrat/admin ratio currently at Wikipedia is 15/846 which is much lower than our's 8/75.) – Svārtava (tɕ) 17:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

2. Support Chihunglu83 (talk) 22:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
3. Support — Fenakhay ^{(حيطي · مساهماتي)} 23:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

1. Oppose. More research is needed. Only SemperBlotto in this bunch is no longer active. I fear he may be deceased. DonnanZ (talk) 19:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

   Yes - though the others are also inactive as bureaucrats and administrators with sporadic activity.

   The vote is about removing their bureaucrat status rather than admin status (for retaining which their activity is sufficient) and I don't think it is a big change that ways. I think 4 bureaucrats is more than enough for us - we don't have too many admin and bot votes. Most bureaucrat actions in Special:Log are done by one of the other four bureaucrats. See also: Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2023/July § Possible vote to strengthen policy removing inactive admins for some good points on this issue. Svārtava (tɕ) 19:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

2. Oppose. Among these four users, EncycloPetey (talk • contribs • rights) has the most recent bureaucrat action, having desysopped a user earlier this year. Three of these users (all but SemperBlotto (talk • contribs • rights)) remain active as editors. Together, these four bureaucrats have made more than 1,000 edits this year alone. Now, as far as I know, there haven't been any security issues regarding any of these users, and given that all of these accounts have been around since 2005 or earlier, it seems very low-risk to keep them around as bureaucrats.
   I'm not a fan of how this vote was set up. If this had been four individual votes, I probably would vote for debureaucratizing at least one of them. However, since voters here only have the option to support or oppose debureaucratizing all four, I am obligated to vote oppose. I cannot in good conscience support removing rights from users who have earned the community's trust. Gelasin (talk) 00:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
3. Oppose. put the fries in the bag. Flame, not lame (Don't talk to me.) 03:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)