Couldn't we add a list of abbreviations? I've had to look up in other entries to find the code for Aeolic ("aio"), Epic ("epi"), etc. --Fsojic (talk) 15:50, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Couldn't we just do:
{{l|en|crawdad}}, {{l|en|crawfish}}
{{l|hy|մուկ}}, {{l|hy|մուկը}} {{dialect|hy|տփ}}
{{l|grc|παραγίνομαι}} {{dialect|grc|ion|post-Classical}}
where {{dialect}}
would essentially do just the second part of {{alter}}
? Why does linking and displaying dialects have to be in the same template? --WikiTiki89 17:32, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Would anyone object to adding parentheses to the dialects? It looks slightly odd as it is, as if perhaps the dialect were another term in the list. —ObsequiousNewt (εἴρηκα|πεποίηκα) 17:16, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
It would be more helpful if we had a |qN=
parameter, instead of a non-standard blank |4=
mechanism that we can't attribute specifically to a variant. --Victar (talk) 04:08, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
|dial1=
, |dial2=
, ... parameters. Using a blank parameter is shorter, so we changed it. Using a |q1=
, ... type parameter would be slightly misleading, since we use dialectal data modules to handle the content of the labels, rather than having it entirely free-form like {{qual}}
. (Admittedly, "dialectal data" is a misleading name for the modules handling the labels: some of the labels have to do with sound changes or morphological variants instead of dialects.) So, using a blank parameter to separate terms and labels is odd, but more convenient than having to type out a parameter name for each label. That is our justification. — Eru·tuon 05:58, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
{{alter|nrf|couôsîn|cousin|d1=jer|d2=gue}}
and get couôsîn (Jèrriais), cousin (Guernésiais)
.{{alter|nrf|couôsîn|cousin|q1=dialectical|q2=archaic}}
for couôsîn (dialectical), cousin (archaic)
.|dialn=
parameters worked. They worked exactly like the current dialect parameters do: labeling every term in the template. That way, when a term belongs to two dialects, or a term has an additional sound change that we would like to note, we can put two labels after it. And when two or more terms belong to the same dialect or dialects, we can use a single set of labels for all. That frequently happens in Ancient Greek. See ἐγώ (egṓ) and ἡμεῖς (hēmeîs) for some examples. — Eru·tuon 17:54, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
@Victar: What I would like to see before we remove the old parameter system is a set of examples showing the various current possibilities and their equivalents in the new parameter system. That will test whether the new system will work, allow editors to give a more informed opinion on it, and show editors how to use it. As of yet, the illustrations of the proposed change have been diffused over several pages and posts, and it's hard to get a picture of them.
But I think there is no opposition to adding the new parameters |aN=
and |qN=
. That can be done soon.
I wonder why so few have commented on this in the Beer Parlour post. Perhaps because the labeled alternative forms are used in so few languages. I don't know though. — Eru·tuon 20:07, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
I've been thinking of creating a module for the dialects of Romansch (Module:rm:Dialects). Any suggestions? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 13:23, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
@Erutuon, could you look into why entries with only |tr=
and no |t=
don't work? Please see 𐭪𐭫𐭲 (klt). Thanks! --Victar (talk) 16:08, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
{{alter}}
talk page :p, but specifically, {{alter|pal|tr=-krt'|ts=-kirt, -gird||Book Pahlavi}}
→ (-krt' /-kirt, -gird/), Book Pahlavi. --Victar (talk) 22:34, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
elseif args then
). I suppose I can make it check all the relevant parameters instead. Isn't there a weird Latin-alphabet representation of Book Pahlavi that you can use though? — Eru·tuon 23:17, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
|2=
@Erutuon, could you make this module work so you can have null |2=
in cases here you only have |tr=
or |ts=
? --{{victar|talk}}
05:39, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
{{alter|pal|tr=dʾl|ts=dār}}
. --{{victar|talk}}
08:01, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
{{alter}}
templates to figure out if my changes will cause errors and make any necessary edits before updating Module:alternative forms. — Eru·tuon 19:08, 21 March 2019 (UTC)