User talk:KhiLanTzi

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Ahom

Hello! Great work! Please see my edit here: , and change it if you don't agree. THANKS! --Geographyinitiative (talk) 13:34, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Geographyinitiative Agree with your edit. There are many Ahom words that are related to Chinese derived words like yin-yang and Tian. I'll try to add them. KhiLanTzi (talk) 13:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Excellent! Thank you. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 13:46, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Geographyinitiative Welcome KhiLanTzi (talk) 14:01, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Minor edits

Hi - please stop marking all of your edits as minor. You should only mark edits which make tiny changes as minor. Thanks. Theknightwho (talk) 14:56, 26 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Theknightwho I edit using a mobile web browser , I haven't seen any option to mark it as minor or unmark it, I edit the Assamese Wikipedia too and there is an option in Assamese Wikipedia in mobile web browser. KhiLanTzi (talk) 17:32, 26 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wrong glyph in Ahom entries

I saw you create Ahom entries with π‘œ° (U+11730) in place of circle wa; it is the zero, not wa. (As you see 0 in the transcription.) The right glyph is π‘œš (U+1171A), or Unicode calls the alternate ba. Please consider using the right glyph in your entries.

Also, you may notice π‘œˆ (ba) at the end of a syllable representing wa. That's because ba and wa share the same letter, as you can see a lot in http://sealang.net/ahom/ . The circle π‘œš (wa) was invented in the later time, making a word look like Shan or Phake. I firstly regard sealang's spelling as the main entry, because it came directly from palm books, and then the circle wa will be alternative spellings. I will write this way. Phake, Shan and Ahom spell different in some words, due to sealang. Please be careful. Octahedron80 (talk) 09:59, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Octahedron80 Sorry for late reply. We the Ahom guys who already know or newly learning Ahom language generally use (π‘œ° U+11730 + π‘œ« U+1172B) for π‘œ°π‘œ« in the ending in words like π‘œ‹π‘œ°π‘œ« on digital platforms. You can search π‘œ‹π‘œ°π‘œ« in Google and check the Non wiki usage of π‘œ°π‘œ« including Social Media; we use (π‘œ° U+11730 + π‘œ« U+1172B) widely for now. The π‘œ°π‘œ« we use is not new and very historical you can check it on Barua 1930 page 52 which is based on original Ahom manuscript. My device don't support "Alternate Ba π‘œš (U+1171A)" it's showing a box and I don't have much information about it. Alternate Ba π‘œš (U+1171A) as you said "...invented in the later time making a word look like Shan or Phake...". If you think we need to use Alternate Ba π‘œš (U+1171A) instead of π‘œ°π‘œ« (π‘œ° U+11730 + π‘œ« U+1172B) please show some available online usage; till then let's use the commonly used π‘œ°π‘œ« and rely on available usage. You can check Template:R:Borua1920 page 176 for π‘œ‰π‘œ’π‘œ°π‘œ« which I added earlier for cat. Do you have any dictionary reference that stated π‘œˆπ‘œ’π‘œˆπ‘œ« is cat. If we need to write Bib I'll write it as π‘œˆπ‘œ’π‘œˆπ‘œ«! I haven't seen Alternate Ba π‘œš (U+1171A) being used widely on digital platforms and I entered with widely used (π‘œ° U+11730 + π‘œ« U+1172B). KhiLanTzi (talk) 04:04, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Since the alternate ba is added in Unicode version 11.0 (June 2018)†, media that are released before that used the zero just because it is similar β€œcircle” to the alternate ba. They are not the same type of glyph; ba is a letter but zero is a number and they should not be mixed up, in other word, wrong usage. (We can make redirects then.) About π‘œˆπ‘œ’π‘œˆπ‘œ«, you can just look for β€œcat” in http://sealang.net/ahom/ ‑ (I can't make direct entry of it). The entry show π‘œˆπ‘œ’π‘œˆπ‘œ« (bib) but it reads as /biu/, that means π‘œˆ represent both ba and wa, at least in that period. Modern Ahom (now-using Ahom) might spell different from palm books so I have the option to put in the alternative forms, like 'miu' you have. Additionally, If you want to have newer version of font with full glyphs, go to download Noto Serif Ahom. (Wiktionary already supports the font.) BabelMap is also useful to see what glyphs are in the font. --Octahedron80 (talk) 05:44, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
†There are also new letters 𑝀𑝁𑝂𑝃𑝄𑝅𑝆 (U+11740-U+11746) that are added in Unicode version 14.0 (September 2021). These are meant to fill up Indian loanwords or to write mantras I guess.
‑References to the 18th Century Ahom-Assamese Lexicon known as the Bar Amra.
By the way, if you have some Modern Ahom dictionaries more than sealang or Borua, I might consider make the modern forms as main entry instead (?). --Octahedron80 (talk) 06:03, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply