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Can you please fix any mistakes you spot? FinalCeiling (talk) 13:04, 5 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hey, it seems to me to be mistaken to conflate the suffix -e as in archeologe, assistente etc. with the ending -e as seen in Hollandse, Duitse, Amerikaanse and so forth. While the former suffix is probably from French in most cases, as you correctly indicated in your edit, instances of the latter surely just represent nominalized instances of the inflected form of the adjectives to which they belong? — Mnemosientje (t · c) 13:12, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Hey, yes, I think you're right in saying that these are two different usages of the suffix. I think the reason they were conflated is because of the "female" aspect. I will move this part of the sense at Etymology 1 to a new sense under Etymology 4.
- On the same topic, I suppose words like wiskundige should also be analyzed as formed with this suffixed. Some of these are currently analysed as formed with a suffix -ige (see Category:Dutch terms suffixed with -ige).
- Stujul (talk) 10:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
- I am unsure about -ige: I think -ig + -e also makes sense here, perhaps more so than viewing it as a single suffix, but on the other hand it was added by an experienced editor, @Rua -- maybe she can give her view on the matter? — Mnemosientje (t · c) 07:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hello Stujul! Mnemosientje recommended your help to me to add the separable verbs function in the Frisian module, I would like to know if you can help me :) Augustijn Bakker (talk) 13:18, 19 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Hello Augustijn! I will be happy to help, but in order to do so, I will need some input from you.
- Firstly, do separable verbs function exactly the same as in Dutch? Can you give an example of a Frisian separable verb and its conjugation?
- Secondly, How do you want to display the new forms in the table? Would it be the same as in Dutch (e.g. like the table in opeten)?
- Stujul (talk) 14:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
- 1 You can see how separable verb conjugations work here.
- 2 I think it can be like in Dutch, it's good enough. Augustijn Bakker (talk) 18:57, 20 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
- I've added the functionality in a test module at MOD:User:Stujul/fy-verbs. If I understand correctly how the separable verbs function, then it should work correctly. You can test it using the template
{{t:User:Stujul/fy-infl-verb-wk1}} with the parameter |sep= for the separable part, as I've done on my testing page User:Stujul/test-fy-infl-verb.
- I have a few further questions:
- Firstly, what are the rules for adding a hyphen between the separable part and the main verb? In the Dutch verb module, a hyphen is added between when the separable part ends in a vowel and the main verb begins with that same vowel (e.g. mee-eten). I've just copied this functionality over, but I would not be surprised if there are other rules.
- Secondly, how should the separable verbs be categorised? For the Dutch verbs, they are categorised by the separable part, such as Category:Dutch separable verbs with mee. Should I do the same for West Frisian?
- Lastly, would you mind if I changed the colour scheme to match that of the Dutch table, so that it works correctly in dark mode?
- Stujul (talk) 17:35, 21 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Hello Stujul! I am very grateful for your help, thank you very much; about conjugations, you can see the complete paradigm here, the site is in Dutch so I think you will be able to use it, I'm not very good at explaining these aspects yet.
- Regarding the color scheme, do whatever you think is best, I'm already very grateful for your work :) Augustijn Bakker (talk) 13:29, 22 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
- You're very welcome! I've looked at that website, but it doesn't really give all the conjugations in a clear way. But looking at other sources on the web, it seems that they work as in Dutch.
- I've changed the colours to work in dark mode and added rules on when there should be a hyphen, based on AP:pron:fy and what I found on the website you sent.
- I will make sure the categorisation works correctly, and publish the updated module tonight. Please let me know if there is something wrong, or if you'd like help with anything else :)
- Stujul (talk) 21:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Wow! Your work was excellent, I am very grateful and happy for your help, you don't know how happy I am :); I will test the module in its entirety tomorrow, if I notice anything I will let you know, thank you very much for your help!
( Augustijn Bakker (talk) 02:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)Reply