Thanks. Keyboard troubles. DCDuring TALK 11:21, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
We seem to be losing ground; in the last 3 weeks, the number has gone from 3962 to 4020, excluding things that AF will fix. I haven't changed the flag rules in that time.
One thing may be entries that AF could partly fix, so were not counted; now that it has done what it can, the remainder shows in the count. I'm not sure how many of these there are, but certainly some.
I'm wondering how many are new entries? Or newly added pronunciation information with problems? Robert Ullmann 14:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, re Asia: I think we need more parameters in the template? then it can do 'or' or comma Robert Ullmann 14:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
What do you think of removing lines like:
* ]: //
as the don't add anything? Yes, they say "SAMPA not provided (yet)", but then the absence of the line does the same. Ditto IPA, AHD, and a couple of very odd cases of enPR. At some point I can do some version of the rhymes-but-no-IPA report to list entries with non-blank pronunciation sections that lack IPA. In the meantime lines like the above are pretty useless.
I could either have AF remove them from the entries, or simply leave them out of the this report. Robert Ullmann 10:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
{{rfp|<type>}}
, where <type> is whichever of IPA, SAMPA and enPR was being requested. If there is an obvious region statement (e.g. an {{a}}
template, or something AF would convert to such) then put that as a comment in the rfp. I watch Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Requests_for_pronunciation so I'll add the ones I can as they appear.* ]: //
replace with {{rfp|lang=xx}}
Where is the current list of articles neding pronunciation attention? I have some time this week (unless I get a call for a job I'm waiting to hear about), and could help reduce the number of problem entries. I took a wiki-break for most of October, but now feel rejuvenated. --EncycloPetey 20:26, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I can't say I've ever heard the alternative pronunciation in the US, except in specific urban and African-American dialects. --EncycloPetey 23:41, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Conversation continues at Wiktionary:Tea room#fifth. Thryduulf 14:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
If that's what the IPA chart says, I suggest it should be changed. As it is, the pronunciation given doesn't even match the rhyme template (Rhymes:English:-eə(r) is a redirect to Rhymes:English:-ɛə(r))! As for the diphthong...it is true that RP used to be given as /eə/ for this vowel. However, as the Wikipedia entry notes, "/eə/ as in square is sometimes written /ɛə/, and is also sometimes treated as a long monophthong /ɛː/". This is the format used by Oxford for all their dictionaries, and also by Chambers (they don't use IPA, but they denote the same sound). This is also how we write the diphthong at Wiktionary:IPA_pronunciation_key. The other advantage is that it's much closer to actual pronunciation. Ƿidsiþ 19:29, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't know which more accurately represents the sound, but we should use whatever does - with one caveat we must use the same transcription as the pronunciation key we link to uses, to do otherwise would be unfair (imho) to users who are not familiar with IPA. What other dictionaries use is an argument that could be used in support of changing the pronunciation key, but are not relevant to what appears in our entries. It is the same with /a/ vs /æ/, changing the pronunciation key must come before changing entries. Thryduulf 20:08, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
{{IPA}}
template makes it possible to direct users to an appropriate chart for the language concerned. This is a Beer Parlour type discussion though. Thryduulf 23:44, 11 November 2008 (UTC)You had tagged this in March. Was this ever discussed in TR? The pronunciation section is messy. DCDuring TALK 19:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
I was wondering why AF seemed to not find these cases; it was only adding the hyphenation template when it looked at an entry for some other reason. Found it, a missing flag on a call that was causing the prescreen to miss them. So now it is finding them directly, and fixing a bunch. Just FYI. Robert Ullmann 11:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Thryduulf! Prin fyth ydw i’n dy weld yma mwyach… (Ond gwelaf dy fod yn dal i gyfrannu o adeg i adeg.) Sut mae pethau? Ac sut wyt ti? † ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 03:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
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Hello mate. Would you like to go the Last Post? — This unsigned comment was added by 86.141.220.30 (talk).
I've noticed quite a number of errors in your recent IPA edits, particularly when it comes to marking stress. As a good example, I have never heard the primary stress in (deprecated template usage) chimpanzee places on the first syllable. Neither do the several dictionaries I've checked place the primary stress on the first syllable, although they place a secondary strsss there. Likewise (deprecated template usage) beheld is stressed on the second syllable, not the first. Also, in (deprecated template usage) orangutan, you eliminated the second US IPA calling it a duplicate, when in fact it was a different pronunciation. Further, in (deprecated template usage) marigold and (deprecated template usage) boozer you marked the syllable breaks according to hyphenation standards rather than according to pronunciation. Finally, in (deprecated template usage) carnage you added a Chinese tone symbol when you meant to add an inverted ɹ. All this suggests you're not quite familiar enough with IPA to be making those kinds of edits. --EncycloPetey 15:02, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
On w:User:Thryduulf/Contact U imply that we may correct spellings on your pages. i just decided to w:WP:Be bold and fix what were probably URL errors on commons:User:Thryduulf and commons:User talk:Thryduulf. Before i did so though, someone followed one those "broken" links. As such, U may want to react to the page linked to in this section title.
On a side topic, could U please read the latest version of m:Wiktionary/logo/refresh#nl.wiktionary_vote? Warmest Regards, :)--thecurran Speak your mind my past 06:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Thryduulf. In banker you changed the Danish entry to use {{inflection of}}
instead of {{form of}}
, with the comment "to match Norwegian and Swedish entries on this page". I see your point, but on the other side it doesn't match with the other Danish noun forms. If it is decided that Danish, Norwegian and Swedish must be coordinated, and a form is decided, then a bot can make the changes. For now I'm going to revert your edit, because I feel that the consistency of Danish noun forms has preference. – Leo Laursen – (talk · contribs) 18:08, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Top notch cleanup work, well done! Mglovesfun (talk) 16:48, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
I moved back the Russian translation where it belongs - it is correct, no need for further checking, my comment refers to the false friend - бурка (búrka) in Russian means a different type of male clothing, described in sense 2. --Anatoli 23:25, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't understand why you're using {{hyphenation}}
like this. This is not what it's to be used for. You now have a lot of cleanup to fix those edits. --EncycloPetey 15:58, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
ɵ is a vowel - θ is a consonant. Just a mix up? — opiaterein — 18:12, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
The pronunciation was as per the OED (and several other modern phonetics books). /aɪ/ is kind of old-fashioned now; many authorities feel /ʌɪ/ is closer to what people in Britain actually say. Since the OED adopted it, it's been appearing here too, and it's what I always use. Ƿidsiþ 14:18, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I take your point, although arguably it's no less useful than transcribing a sound which no one actually uses outside of the Queen's Speech. I have tried to thrash this out before (Wiktionary_talk:Pronunciation#UK_pronunciations), but so far there doesn't seem to be much consensus...about anything... Ƿidsiþ 15:15, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
That seems a good idea. I'll do that, thanks. Ƿidsiþ 16:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately {{charactercat}}
is designed for English terms spelled with on the grounds that multi-word phrases are also allowed. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:21, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi! Shoudn't be there /r/ instead of /ɹ/? I can clearly hear /r/ in the audio file.
Appendix:Welsh pronunciation is confusing. In the table I can read that English equivalent of Welsh r is "r in right but trilled", but below in the "Consonants" section: "R is the same as English R as in right". So if it's trilled it cannot be the same as English alveolar approximant. Maro 18:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello. Please do not change the etymology formatting for Mandarin entries as they are completely different to other languages for a variety of complex reasons. Thank you. ---> Tooironic 00:11, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Thryduulf, recently User:EncycloPetey deleted my anon edits because they weren't cited. Usenet was suggested as a good source to find quotations for txtspk. Do you know of a good search engine for Usenet? I'm trying with Google Groups atm, but I don't think all of them are Usenet pages - is this a problem? --Mat200 07:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry that you've had to pick up stuff from my dirt tray - I resolve to try much harder in future :) —Saltmarshαπάντηση 14:35, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if French uses /ɛː/. FWIW we prefer ʁ over ʀ, but that's a norm not a rule. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, you voted in support of this proposal, but new information has come up (see the vote page, in the "Oppose" section) that might make you want to reconsider.—msh210℠ (talk) 15:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi Thryduulf. Thank you for the advice and the corrections in lolspeak. --ColdWind 20:24, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I explored that template a bit and came to the (wrong) conclusion that it was only for English. My bad... Is there a list somewhere of all the valid codes? Neither the documentation nor the sourcecode are any help... — ˈzɪzɨvə 00:34, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Hullo. Yesterday I added the alternative forms of brush-off. I think you must have been Saturday-night drunk when you brushed my edit off and deleted these alternative forms while claiming "restore alternative forms".
Good thing I'm back on this word to check the status of its plural (one alternative gives a plural when this one pretends to be uncountable) and noticed the puddle of vomit.
I think it's okay to edit wiki on a Saturday evening. I think it's okay to get drunk on a Saturday night. But I don't, I say, I don't think it's okay that you do both at the same time, son. 62.147.9.42 09:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't, but you may, wish to be bold. (See the rfv-pronunciation tag.)—msh210℠ (talk) 16:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Huh? I've corrected the IPA. What we had wasn't even close to correct. --EncycloPetey 22:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
FWIW, Here's the list of current pages with Trivia sections. --Bequw → τ 17:10, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I re-ran both this morning, with the existing code. I didn't review and revise the rules as usual, no time today. I will have limited access to the net for a little while (maybe 10 days) so can't do anything else for a bit. If you see this and want something, I might have time tonight, but probably not; do ask and I will see when I can get to it. Cheers, Robert Ullmann 12:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
At Wiktionary talk:About English#Placement of Gutenberg rankings, do you think Usage notes fits the bill? I was going to request a FF to make the change but I wasn't sure if you approved of that header. Cheers --Bequw → τ 21:58, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
No, really? You put the stress on the wrong syllable (the original was right) and changed the pronunciation to an incorrect one. --EncycloPetey 17:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
See User:Robert Ullmann/IPAchars. Robert Ullmann 08:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Something you might want to add is technical differences between the two sites; for example, I've never seen a Wikipedia user talk page that works like Yair rand's, which works on LiquidThreads. Nyttend 03:58, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
here User:Robert Ullmann/Pronunciation exceptions as usual. I can now run it fairly routinely, on a dump < 8 hours old. Robert Ullmann 14:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
? --Yair rand (talk) 23:00, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
{{etyl}}
when the "don't categorise" parameter is set breaks very horribly. I think I've now fixed all the crap it left in the entry. It'll be worth noting at the template talk and/or grease pit though to see if anyone can stop it breaking in that manner (I haven't time currently). Thryduulf (talk) 01:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)Hello - just wanted to say that I like your panoramic photos of Stratford station. Will you be doing another when the new low-level platforms are open? That would be cool! Cheers, -- Earle Martin 03:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC) (best place for a reply is my en.wp user talk, same name)
Hello Thryduulf -- I just came across this entry that you created in February. Very nice work! Regards -- Ghost of WikiPedant 22:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I see you added the RP pronunciation for incongruous, but the pronunciations given were /ˈɪn.cɒn.ɡɹʊu.ʌs/ and /ˈɪn.cɒŋ.ɹʊu.ʌs/. I changed this to /ˈɪn.kɒn.ɡɹʊu.ʌs/ and /ˈɪn.kɒŋ.ɹʊu.ʌs/, because I don't think it's pronounced with a in any type of English. I'm putting this message here because, looking through the history, you said that the IPA was correct. CntRational 13:57, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Changed to Afrikaans. DCDuring TALK 03:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Newsflash! The location of this weekend's Manchester meetup has been moved back to Wetherspoons on Princess Street - the Ducie Arms isn't open on Sundays! Can you believe that?! Bazonka (talk) 18:02, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Can these be deleted? We have the WT:ACCEL script for these, which is more accurate and up to date anyway, so you probably don't really need them. —CodeCat 18:43, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello, can the word ticket be pronounced /ˈtɪkɛt/ ? 162.246.52.108 16:40, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
Could you semi-protect my talk page. I've got WhenDatHotlineBling/possibly the dog and rapper vandal being a nuisance at my talk page on various projects. Hopefully he'll be run down and caught this year, but meanwhile the pings are annoying. Thanks. Interesting about Alex, eh? Doug Weller (talk) 13:41, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi,
I see you added the pronunciations at acapnotic. What was your source for these, so that we can verify them? — Paul G (talk) 06:33, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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