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It's good to see some of that code taken out of the entries and placed in templates. Thanks. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 01:39, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
{{infl}}
template and inflection/conjugation tables on entry pages instead of {{fi-noun}}
etc. templates. In that way, it is easier to see how a word is inflected, plus the Finnish entries follow more closely the standard. But please use those templates when you are not adding a inflection/conjugation table so we can see which entries are incomplete.--Jyril 21:45, 4 March 2009 (UTC)Hi, if we use numbering in inflection types, I think we should stick to the KOTUS numbering system (1-52 for declension and 53-78 for conjugation types)... The NSK version is very confusing and isn't even up to date. --Jyril 08:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
{{fi-decl}}
template. Please let me know when you're finished editing it.--Jyril 06:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC)I deleted the three user pages you asked to be deleted. Do you also want me to delete any of the redirects left behind by the pages and templates you've moved? — Carolina wren discussió 20:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
* 11:48, 6 April 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Template:fi-decl-autio to Template:fi-decl-valtio (revert) * 11:08, 6 April 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Template:fi-decl-kohtalo to Template:fi-decl-palvelu (revert) * 09:41, 3 April 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/verbs/17 to Appendix:Finnish conjugation types/toimia (revert) * 18:15, 31 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Appendix:Finnish conjugation types/voida to Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/verbs/voida over redirect * 13:14, 31 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/nouns/28 to Appendix:Finnish declension types/maa (revert) * 13:11, 31 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/nouns/29 to Appendix:Finnish declension types/puu (revert) * 10:27, 31 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/verbs/31 to Appendix:Finnish conjugation types/valita (revert) * 09:59, 31 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/verbs/27 to Appendix:Finnish conjugation types/mennä (revert) * 09:50, 31 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/verbs/25 to Appendix:Finnish conjugation types/tulla (revert) * 08:27, 31 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Appendix:Finnish conjugation types/verbs/erota to Appendix:Finnish conjugation types/erota (revert) * 08:12, 31 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/verbs/38 to Appendix:Finnish conjugation types/verbs/erota (revert) * 06:35, 31 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/verbs/1 to Appendix:Finnish conjugation types/sanoa (Start to transition verb conjugations following noun model) (revert) * 13:12, 30 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/nouns/22 to Appendix:Finnish declension types/isompi (revert) * 12:39, 27 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/nouns/41 to Appendix:Finnish declension types/tosi (revert) * 12:37, 27 March 2009 KJBracey (Talk | contribs | block) moved Wiktionary:Finnish inflection types/nouns/40 to Appendix:Finnish declension types/susi (revert)
Hi, I want to thank you for your improvements on the inflection templates, highly appreciated... I noticed that you have set possessive suffix on by default in the case of comitative plural in {{fi-decl-vanhempi}}
, {{fi-decl-sisin}}
, and {{fi-decl-onneton}}
. However, as you know these forms are almost exclusively for adjectives which are not assigned with possessive suffixes, so the parameter should have an empty default value instead of en. Also, I added -i- to the {{fi-decl-sisin}}
template, because every word of that class have it. --Jyril 17:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't really like the idea of what you're doing with these e.g. {{fi-decl-paperi}}
. While I do think that all those redlinks make the tables look bad I think the best solution is to make it so that the Finnish tables give their links like the the ones at fa#Hungarian. 50 Xylophone Players talk 22:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
{{fi-conj}}
were using #ifexist before I ever touched them. Possibly Jyril's work? Nominals weren't. I resolved the inconsistency by changing the nominals to match the verbs.{{fi-decl}}
and {{fi-conj}}
. If you want to remove the #ifexists, or remove links altogether, do it there, not in the 75 subtemplates. --KJBracey 13:03, 25 April 2009 (UTC){{fi-decl}}
is using #ifexist. I've not removed all linking; it links if the entry exists. Apparently lots of #ifexist can be a bit stressful on server load, but like I said, when I did fi-decl, I was just following the example of fi-conj, and that had more ifexists than fi-decl ended up with. --KJBracey 13:10, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
P.S. would you mind taking it out? (I can't seem to wrap my head around programming languages very well )
{{#ifexist|foo|]|foo}}
(which means "if the page 'foo' exists, put a link to foo here, else just put the word foo in"), and replace them with ]
, in the fi-decl and fi-conj templates. Of course, in most cases foo
is more complicated - at least something like {{{33}}}
, leading to a lot of curly brackets you have to keep track of. At least you'd be simplifying it. --KJBracey 10:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)KJ, Thank you for your hard work on the Finnish inflection templates. They have helped me a lot; I moved to Finland recently and I'm trying to learn the language. Presently, I'm trying to make a list of words that have a vanishing K. Trouble is, I can't figure out how to perform a clean search. I'm thinking along the lines of querying a dump of the index of Finnish words, but I'm not real hot with scripting, and I don't know how to get the list on one page. Can you recommend a good strategy? Heyzeuss 20:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Welcome back! I thought we had lost you for good. Thank you for fixing taitaa and tietää. ~ heyzeuss 14:04, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I moved tuntea from the Wiktionary to the Appendix namespace because it is no longer in use in its old place. I updated it and added some notes. I still haven't added the consonant gradation tables though. ~ heyzeuss 15:08, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, it might be in your interest to note this. :) 50 Xylophone Players talk 12:48, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
{{fi-decl-see}}
. For something that's essentially a phrase, like that, I would suggest a declension section isn't worthwhile at all - you would need each word declined, and there should be links to the separate words already, so you don't need another link.I'm trying to make consonant gradation categories that are fed automatically by {{fi-conj}}
. My parser functions aren't quite working though. Can you take a look? This is the part that I put in the noinclude section.
{{#ifeq:{{{3}}}|d|{{#ifeq:{{{2}}}|t|]}}}}
It should categorize huuhtoa. ~ heyzeuss 15:35, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
"help|p||o"
or "hel|pp|p|o"
. --KJBracey 11:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)You may want to provide input in a conversation regarding the Finnish part of speech templates. ~ heyzeuss 14:25, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi! I would like to understand why you changed d's and t's in the declension formula Template:fi-decl-käsi to {{{d|d}}} and {{{t|t}}} (Revision as of 18:11, 8 April 2009). If I understand correctly, this does not affect the output in any way. --Hekaheka 10:04, 1 March 2011 (UTC)