User talk:KarikaSlayer

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Olá. Ti piacerebbe attualizzare questa entrata? Merci beaucoup, --Romanophile ♞ (contributions) 04:26, 7 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for creating these! But please see this and fix the other tables accordingly. Thanks! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 00:17, 10 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello. I'm here to ask if you would like to modify the templates at Category:Icelandic adjective inflection-table templates so they could have the function to make links. Thank you. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 02:01, 17 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Lo Ximiendo  Done. KarikaSlayer (talk) 03:04, 17 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Now how about the templates at Category:Faroese noun inflection-table templates? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 17:21, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Lo Ximiendo 174 different declension templates? That looks like a good candidate for Lua conversion. KarikaSlayer (talk) 17:42, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Don't forget to consult Mulder1982 (talk • contribs) for any changes. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 18:45, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

I dunno why I need to be consulted but yes, please, if you can make the Faroese noun inflection-table templates into ones with links... that'd be great. Mulder1982 (talk) 19:23, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

How is the term inherited from PIE? —CodeCat 16:49, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

• @CodeCat It isn't, I just got the templates mixed up. Thanks for catching that! KarikaSlayer (talk) 16:52, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

(@CodeCat) Having sent a quick thanks, I am having second thoughts! Is it possible for transliterations to appear as a popup/hint (if they're the words)? Some inflection tables are liable to become exceeding cluttered! (I seem to remember popup-transliteration being discussed some years ago.)   — Saltmarsh^{συζήτηση-talk} 05:45, 6 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Not that I'm aware of, unfortunately. {{tooltip}} and <span title=""></span> don't override the MW-provided link tooltips. KarikaSlayer (talk) 13:54, 6 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

I know that we usually aim to show translits. for all non-Roman entries. There is a problem (which I didn't initially realise) that some tables, particularly those with multiple forms and long words, will be too bus - leading to more confusion than we want (users can always look at the headword or follow the link to get a translit.). The amended layout will be a problem with small screens on mobile phones. I would therefore like to remove your changes.   — Saltmarsh^{συζήτηση-talk} 05:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Saltmarsh Feel free. I'll try to find some way to do link tooltip translits. KarikaSlayer (talk) 11:27, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thank you!   — Saltmarsh^{συζήτηση-talk} 04:40, 11 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

{{el-decl-noun}}: thanks again - sorry, but I'm afraid that the tooltip is showing the Greek characters not Roman.   — Saltmarsh^{συζήτηση-talk} 05:05, 15 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Saltmarsh For some reason, templates don't work with {{tooltip}}. I suspect it's a Mediawiki bug. KarikaSlayer (talk) 12:37, 15 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Well thanks for trying  — Saltmarsh^{συζήτηση-talk} 20:14, 15 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Given the amount of time you spent on this, I can understand how you might not want to look at anything VL-related ever again, but there are still three VL entries in CAT:E with module errors. Would you please fix them? Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 22:25, 30 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Chuck Entz All Fixed. Thanks! KarikaSlayer (talk) 00:40, 1 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:58, 1 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Here's another one: Reconstruction:Latin/visaticum. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 04:17, 6 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Chuck Entz Fixed! KarikaSlayer (talk) 18:42, 6 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 03:27, 7 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello. I see you have added a few Westrobothnian words. I am wondering where from you get them, and which spelling convention they follow? — This unsigned comment was added by Vatterholm (talk • contribs) at 23:48, 22 October 2016 (UTC).Reply

@Vatterholm I don't remember adding any Westrobothnian words (just fixing the links in Proto-Germanic entries). I believe @87.63.114.210 has been adding most of them. KarikaSlayer (talk) 02:58, 23 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

This has had a module error for a couple of days, so it's probably due to your edits at Module:vec-conj. Would you be so kind as to fix it? Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 05:28, 9 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Fixed by @Kc kennylau. KarikaSlayer (talk) 01:13, 10 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

There are a couple of VL-adj templates in CAT:E, apparently because the module isn't getting the parameter it's expecting when it's invoked from the template namespace. Please fix. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 03:49, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Chuck Entz Fixed. KarikaSlayer (talk) 04:53, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! Chuck Entz (talk) 04:56, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. I love your work on this category, and as someone interested in the same topic I have a number of ideas for it:

For reference, let's take this entry: https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Reconstruction:Latin/excadeo

- The name of the language. It's currently marked Latin/Vulgar Latin, which I don't think is quite what we need. The words reconstructed here are unattested in Classical Latin and may not have existed yet in (Early-Mid) Vulgar Latin, after all. Since they are reconstructed from comparisons of modern and medieval Romance Languages, what they really reflect is Proto-Romance (alternately, Late Vulgar Latin), their last common stage. So why don't we name the category Proto-Romance ?

- Macrons. In keeping with the Proto-Romance theme, they are misleading since the Classical Latin vowel length system was gone by that point. In P-R it's word stress and syllable structure that determine vowel length (https://en.wikipedia.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Romance_languages#Stressed_vowels). For distinguishing lax vowels from tense ones, < ę ǫ > and analogous < į ų > could do.

- Spelling. Instead of e.g. excadeo, we could instead have escadio, reflecting the P-R pronunciation.

In the long-term, I don't see why we couldn't expand this category to cover most Latin-derived Romance words. E.g. the ancestors of French mois would show as OFr meis < PR mese < CL mensem.

I say 'we' because I'd like to help as well. But before I start anything, please let me know what you think. --Excelsius (talk) 08:34, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

A couple more things:

https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Reconstruction:Latin/festizo As can be seen from the deriv's, intervocalic < z > indicates a , which later develops into , which becomes in Italian and stays as-is in French. The palatalization of the t is unlikely, as none of the derivatives show the expected outcomes for It. and for Fr., as in titionem > tizzone, tison and rationem > ragione, raison. The first e was long in the Classical Latin word, so it should be not . The second < e >, if we're going by Proto-Romance pronunciation instead of later Italo-Western or Eastern Romance, should still be .

https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Reconstruction:Latin/desidium PR didn't have nasalized vowels. Intervocalic consonants weren't lenited yet ( ð definitely did not exist yet, and vita still had its ). Also the auto-generated pronunciation for desidium didn't palatalize the second d, for some reason. The PR pronunciation would be .

@Excelsius Hello! In response to your points:

• As for Proto-Romance, there is at least one comprehensive reconstruction of Proto-Romance that I'm aware of, but as far as I know, the idea that Proto-Romance represents a discrete entity from Latin or Vulgar Latin is a minority position in Romance linguistics. If we did decide to implement it (by consensus), it would probably have a new orthography like you said, as well as a new language code. (The conjugation templates are a good example for the former.)

• The IPA thing uses Module:la-pronunc as its backend, and I definitely agree that it needs to be reworked some (palatalization, like you said, has always worked funny). A general pre-vowel lowering state would probably work.KarikaSlayer (talk) 16:46, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

@KarikaSlayer

Hi, thanks for the reply.

So it may not have been clear why I was suggesting Proto-Romance as the name. Vulgar Latin is a fairly unspecific term, it's often used to cover anything from Plautus' speech to that of some lower-class romans in the Satyricon, to Pompeii inscriptions, etc. It's just a very broad term. Proto-Romance does fit into the category of Vulgar Latin, but it specifically covers the period right before languages like Proto-Sardinian and Proto-Romanian split off. So the comparative method when applied to all/most rom-langs reveals words (e.g. the ones you've been posting) and phonological characteristics reflecting the last time they were all one language. Which was Proto-Romance, by definition. So that's what we're working with here (as far as I can tell).

This gives us a specific period in time to work with, which lets us know what sort of pronunciation we should use, e.g. we know that at that stage there were no consonants yet like ð, and Latin's had yet to merge into , considering that it went on to become in Romanian/Sardinian. (Btw, I'm very interested in seeing the comprehensive reconstruction of PR that you mentioned.)

I think a nice idea would be having each Proto-Romance 'umbrella' entry contain the various Italo-Western, Sardinian, and Eastern Romance versions that spun off later. You already seem to have something similar going on here: https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Reconstruction:Latin/mulgo although it doesn't work perfectly IMO because the 'vulgar' pronunciation given there reflects only the of Italo-Western, not the of Sardinian/Eastern Rom. Wouldn't it make sense to have the main pronunciation reflect the last common ancestor  ?

Speaking of consensus, is there some place we could take this discussion ? Excelsius (talk) 05:28, 3 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

• @Excelsius That reconstruction of Proto-Romance is Proto-Romance Morphology by Robert A. Hall Jr. There's a similar Proto-Romance Phonology, but I can't find much info about it on the web. If you want to try to get consensus, the beer parlour would be your best bet. KarikaSlayer (talk) 20:44, 3 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

@KarikaSlayer So I've ordered and received Hall's Proto-Romance Phonology. No luck with the Beer Parlour, though- maybe the topic's too esoteric ? Anyway, the Vulgar Latin about page states that we're considering the "latest common ancestor of the Romance languages" so yeah, it's Proto-Rom. If I come up with an orthography, etc. based on Hall, would you implement it all or alternately not stop me from implementing it ?

Wintry greetings from Idaho, Karika.

In case you have decided to return to updating the Faroese noun inflection tables, I made myself this module for Template:fo-decl-noun-m1 and its pluralia tanta and singularia tanta, just for you with copying—of course. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 07:45, 3 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Now I added data for Template:fo-decl-noun-m2. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 09:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Having created a prototype module for neuter nouns, how can I add information for Template:fo-decl-noun-n4 in regards to Template:fo-decl-noun-n3? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 06:28, 4 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Lo Ximiendo For patterns with parentheses, I usually split it into two table entries (otherwise, making it link properly is a big pain). Thanks for doing all this, by the way. KarikaSlayer (talk) 16:35, 4 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

I wish to see a demonstration of that. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 17:43, 4 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

P.S. You may, however, add to the module for neuter nouns the information for the declension pattern "n4" to show what you mean. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 17:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

I added it to your sandbox module (hope you don't mind). KarikaSlayer (talk) 19:05, 4 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, now I would like to know how the information for Template:fo-decl-noun-n4-s is added. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 23:42, 4 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

How can Module:fo-noun be updated to include information from Module:fo-noun/data-n? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 09:40, 11 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Lo Ximiendo I rewrote a few lines to let it auto-detect the data modules. KarikaSlayer (talk) 15:12, 11 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, now I can move the mentioned neuter noun declension templates over to Lua. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 02:42, 12 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Now I need help with Template:fo-decl-noun-n4-s. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 07:03, 12 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Lo Ximiendo Should be fixed (n4-s was calling a function n4.singular that didn't exist). KarikaSlayer (talk) 00:58, 13 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hi ! It might be less confusing having the declension of folma at folma rather than at folm Leasnam (talk) 22:13, 17 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Fixed. Thanks! KarikaSlayer (talk) 18:05, 18 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hi, when you have time, can you please cleanup this category and other categories related to this language? Thank you — AWESOME meeos ！ * () 00:52, 4 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

BTW, I've fixed some as well! — AWESOME meeos ！ * () 00:52, 4 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hey, thanks for cleaning up those Vulgar Latin entries for me. --Victar (talk) 13:33, 15 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Check CAT:E. You need to handle onsets like wr-, wl-, and codas like -hw. Benwing2 (talk) 21:11, 29 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

I fixed most of the onset and coda errors, but you still need to special-case suffixes to handle the errors in -ndz and -niz. Thanks! Benwing2 (talk) 21:19, 29 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Can you fix the inflection please? —CodeCat 11:48, 3 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

@CodeCat: Fixed! KarikaSlayer (talk) 12:28, 3 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

How should this be used, particularly in regards to |j=? Thank you. --kc_kennylau (talk) 18:10, 24 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

• @Kc kennylau It's intended to be used with some edge cases with Sievers' law (polysyllables with a suffix *-jaz, for example). It's not really necessary most of the time; {{gem-decl-noun}} can figure it out automatically. KarikaSlayer (talk) 21:59, 24 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

  But could you tell me how that parameter is used? What are the possible values? When to use which value? --kc_kennylau (talk) 22:23, 24 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

  @Kc kennylau Sorry about that. |j= should be either ij or j depending on which comes before the nom. sg. ending, with |1= being the rest of the stem before it (e.g. {{gem-decl-noun-a-m|har|j=ij}} = *harjaz). For {{gem-decl-noun-a-m}} it can be safely ignored or removed (e.g. {{gem-decl-noun-a-m|harj}}; substring functions have made it obsolete. KarikaSlayer (talk) 22:52, 24 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

  That would not work. If |1=har, then no matter what the value of |j=, the stem is still "har", and the lemma would become haraz. --kc_kennylau (talk) 23:01, 24 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

  @Kc kennylau Right. That's now it works now, at least for that template. KarikaSlayer (talk) 23:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

  So...? --kc_kennylau (talk) 23:23, 24 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

  @Kc kennylau |j= doesn't do anything for {{gem-decl-noun-a-m}} anymore. It's deprecated. |1=harj gives *harjaz, and inflects it like it should. KarikaSlayer (talk) 23:38, 24 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Should I convert all usages of T:gem-decl-noun-a-m etc. to T:gem-decl-noun? --kc_kennylau (talk) 05:57, 25 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Kc kennylau If you can, yes please. KarikaSlayer (talk) 18:36, 25 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Also, Category:Proto-Germanic a-stems with Sievers' Law needs some cleanup. --kc_kennylau (talk) 06:00, 25 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Done. KarikaSlayer (talk) 18:36, 25 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Are you sure that the vocative singular of *dawwaz is *daww? --kc_kennylau (talk) 01:22, 26 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Kc kennylau Same with *klajjaz. Purely historically, I'd expect *dau and *klai, because penultimate resonants were lost with word-final vowels (i.e. voc sg -e) if another consonant preceded the whole thing. KarikaSlayer (talk) 13:34, 26 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Is a geminate consonant at the end of a word phonotactically legal? --kc_kennylau (talk) 09:21, 27 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Kc kennylau No idea. Gothic allowed it apparently, though: 𐍃𐌺𐌰𐍄𐍄 (skatt), acc sg of 𐍃𐌺𐌰𐍄𐍄𐍃 (skatts), is attested in the Gothic Bible. KarikaSlayer (talk) 22:52, 28 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

What should be the correct template usage for the declension? --kc_kennylau (talk) 04:21, 26 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

That was a bug, which should be fixed now. KarikaSlayer (talk) 13:34, 26 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Why is this parameter not implemented in the Luacized version? --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:24, 29 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Kc kennylau Huh, thought I'd implemented that. Either way, it's now in Module:gem-decl-noun/data/irreg. KarikaSlayer (talk) 12:47, 30 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

In Module:gem-pronunc are the following lines:

	for i, syll in ipairs(syllables) do
		for j=1, #syll-1 do
			if syll==syll then
				syll = ""
			end
		end
		syllables = table.concat(syll)
	end

which causes the nom_sg to display as *ingangaz instead of *inngangaz. Is this intended? --kc_kennylau (talk) 13:15, 2 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Kc kennylau, No, and I have no idea what that code is there for. Either way, it's been removed. KarikaSlayer (talk) 14:20, 2 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Penultimate light syllable should indicate |j=j? --kc_kennylau (talk) 21:15, 2 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Kc kennylau Yes, or preferably just leave it off; Module:gem-pronunc can figure it out. KarikaSlayer (talk) 22:25, 2 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

I asked because I did not discount the possibility of this being an exception. Are *-skapiz and *frijōndiskapiz exceptions? --kc_kennylau (talk) 05:45, 3 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Kc kennylau *frijōndiskapiz isn't, but *-skapiz is. KarikaSlayer (talk) 14:11, 3 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Why is *frijōndiskapiz not? --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:16, 3 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Kc kennylau Actually, you're right, *frijōndiskapiz is an exception, because it's morphologically two words, and the stem of the suffix (actually another word) is a light syllable. KarikaSlayer (talk) 14:22, 3 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

How do we know that the genitive plural of *frijōndiskapiz is *frijōndiskapijǫ̂ but not *frijōndiskapjǫ̂? --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:34, 31 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Kc kennylau That was my fault. I thought I'd fixed that. It's fixed now. KarikaSlayer (talk) 16:42, 31 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Lua module? What in the world is this "Lua module"? Now I can't edit or look at any of the templates here, the declensions of many Proto-Germanic nouns are locked in a brocken position e.g. I had to manually mark the nom. sg. of magaþs beause the s-wasn't appearing. And now nor can I or any casual visitor look at the inflection tables just for casual reverence. What is this so-called "Lua Module"? Why are the inflections for many Proto-Germanic nouns locked with the template "gem-decl-noun" so that nobody can edit the data through the regular edit page, and why are the inflections for so many of these nouns damaged from the transfer over to this so-called "Lua-Module" I'm getting frustrated and am having a herd time cleaning up the mess created by this ridiculous switch. Whoever is responsible for this confusing switch so that I cannot edit inflection tables normally please speak to me on my talk page Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 18:31, 1 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

The Template for *akwisī Has "ij" frozen from the previous edit before the switch over to "Lua Module" Where Don Ringe on Page-270 has "j" variant for Sievers' Law. There are other annoying cases frozen from the switch over to "Lua Module", but I cannot think of any other examples right now.

@Nayrb Rellimer I was under the impression that Sievers' Law gave -ij- for polysyllables, but maybe not. KarikaSlayer (talk) 19:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Another example is where before the Proto-Germanic templates were switched over to "Lua Module", I could easily edit the data in them and look at the template themselves for references, but now, after the switch over to "Lua Module", the templates are hidden and now nobody can edit the data normally or use the templates as a basis reference for grammar.Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 18:55, 1 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

The idea behind the Lua module is that for most cases, entry creators can just use {{gem-decl-noun}} by itself and have the Lua module fill in the inflection automatically. It can also figure out i-mutation. KarikaSlayer (talk) 19:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

That all sounds nice and I wish that had been visible somewhere on the documentation page for the templates, but now none of the templates for gem-pro-decl are visible for reference like they were prior to your May 28, 2017 edits.

Also, I have no idea how the new "Lua Module" could possibly automatically fill in the data for irregular nouns as the current edit pages suggest for *abô, *akwisī, *alu, *arô, *asunz, *berô etc. Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 15:07, 2 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Nayrb Rellimer: Could you please list all the changes that need to be made to the module. For irregular nouns, we have a module that gives the irregular declension. Please do not go around changing them back to the old declensions. —JohnC5 16:21, 2 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

The following are the main changes needed for the new "Lua Module" template for the Proto-Germanic conjugation tables in descending priority:

1. Allow the templates to be visible like they were prior to the may 28, 2017 edits and as the conjugation template for Proto-Germanic still are
2. Fix Template:gem-decl-ijo-f so that Sievers' Variant "j" appears after all instances of light syllables "VC" as Don Ringe has on page 270 of his book for *akwisī unless counter- references can be explicitly provided and cited.
3. Allow the new "Lua Module" parameters to be manually overridden lest it make another stupid mistake like it did for *magaþs (The new "Lua module" thought the stem for the word was "magaþs" and it declined it like magaþsiz, magaþsi, magaþsų etc. Even after I changed the noun back to the old template, the noun would not show the final-s for the nominative singular unless I manually specified nomsg=magaþs.)
4. Alow the new "Lua Module" template to show transclusions like it used to prior to the May 28, 2017 edits and as the conjugation templates for Proto-Germanic still do.
5. Include instructions for the new "Lua Module" templates so that editors unfamiliar with the template cam use it.

These are the main changes that I am aware of that are needed for the new "Lua Module" templates for Proto-Germanic declension, but if I notice any further errors with the current declension templates, I will post them here on this talk page.Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 17:28, 2 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

It's awfully strange the way you keep putting the term Lua module in quotes. Are you doing it out of disgust for the concept, or are you just unclear what it is? It is a module (a modular piece of code) written in the programming language Lua. As for the requests:

1. Are you asking for the old templates to be restored? If so, I would say no. We can make an appendix for people to reference, but having two sets of templates causes confusion.
2. You are right that Karika has coded Siever's law wrong. Polysyllables do not matter. That needs to be changed.
3. Manual overrides are not necessary at this point. This is just an error with *magaþs that needs to be fixed.
4. No (see 1)
5. The template has instructions at {{gem-decl-noun}}.

—JohnC5 17:51, 2 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Nayrb Rellimer, JohnC5 The Sievers' law thing and the error with *magaþs have been fixed. There's also an existing (now out of date) reference page at Appendix:Proto-Germanic nouns that I've been meaning to work on. KarikaSlayer (talk) 23:18, 2 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

I apologize for any confusions caused by putting Lua Module in quotations. I was not sure what had been changed with the new Proto-Germanic conjugation templates. All that I know is that after May 20, 2017, all the original noun inflection templates say "Now uses Lua module" in the edit description. I am not sure what is Lua module so I put it in quotationsNayrb Rellimer (talk) 00:04, 3 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

I'm still having problems with this new template though. I tried using it for the entry for *andawlitją and the Lua Module keeps changing the stem to "andaulitja-" even though the entry headword is "andawlitją" and since it is a compound word, the initial-w from the second member shouldn't have formed a diphthong (The force of analogy would have restored the "w").Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 00:44, 3 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

I recently just now tried looking at the code for "Module:gem-decl-noun". I have no idea what most of it means. I find it odd that there is no "local endings_reverse =" parameter for "cons-mf" since there are a handful of regular consonant stem nouns that might benefit from such a parameter (If I am understanding this foreign computer language correctly). I cannot either find any setting in the code that looks like it controls Sievers' variants for "j" or "ij", nor can I find any setting that automatically changes all instances of "aw" or "Vw" to "au" that would need to be changed to make an exception between the components of compound words.Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 15:34, 3 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Another issue recently I had with the new Proto-Germanic declension template was with the paradigm for *gans (“goose”). It had the reverse problem with *magaþs. The template apparently thought that the stem for the word was gan- and so declined it ganiz, gani, ganų etc. I had to manually specify nomsg=gans and use the older template. I don't know how this could be fixed with the newer template.Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 15:59, 3 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Nayrb Rellimer *gans and *andawlitją should be working normally now. KarikaSlayer (talk) 18:56, 3 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

I am reporting further issues. Apparently the changes you made to the template generalized all closing diphthongs in all positions to "aw", "aj" etc. I tried using the template on *bairaz (“boar”) and it gave me "coda error "Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 14:22, 4 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Just now I checked the declension for *stainaz and it seems to be working fine. *airō (“oar, paddle”) also is working fine.Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 14:27, 4 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Nayrb Rellimer It was a problem with the sequence -jr- specifically. Should be fixed. KarikaSlayer (talk) 01:04, 5 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I just want to check if you could still fix the issues with Sievers' Law in the template.Nayrb Rellimer (talk) 19:18, 10 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Nayrb Rellimer What specific errors do you mean? I fixed polysyllables if that's what you're asking. KarikaSlayer (talk) 19:43, 14 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

How in the world do you use the new template on neuter þ-stems? I'm trying to create an inflection table for *aigin with a stem *aiginþ- but the template won't work rightNayrb Rellimer (talk) 19:48, 10 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

For now, I have to add an exception manually to Module:gem-decl-noun/data/irreg. Should be fixed now. KarikaSlayer (talk) 19:43, 14 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hello KarikaSlayer,

Can you please add jō- stem to the noun declension module please?

Thanks. Leornendeealdenglisc (talk) 16:21, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi KarikaSlayer ! Now that template osx-conj-wk3 is using a Lua module, how can it be edited ? I need to make a change to this template for the 2nd and 3rd person singular indicative forms Leasnam (talk) 03:38, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Leasnam The individual forms are in Module:osx-conj/data. It's set up pretty much the same as the template was IIRC, with args and args corresponding to the arguments for the template if that's any help. KarikaSlayer (talk) 17:18, 29 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hello KarikaSlayer,

I hope you're doing well. I have changed the feminine n-stem to reflect the weak feminine declension of tunge. I had trouble putting the strong feminine o-stem in the module. Could you please help put it in?

Thank you, Cefin Leornendeealdenglisc (talk) 16:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply