User talk:ProjectDialex

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! — Womtelo (talk) 15:13, 25 October 2022 (UTC).Reply

As I said yesterday, welcome to Wiktionary!

Following your creation of the *dwi- entry, I've proposed a few improvements. My aim is to attract your attention to some peculiarities of Templates. In particular, if you want to cite the Gavruni language, I've found the code xme-kaf, and suggest this sort of syntax:

{{desc|xme-kaf|به|tr=''be''|t=otherwise, other|pos=speech particle}} for "descendant";

or {{m|xme-kaf|به|tr=''be''|t=otherwise, other|pos=speech particle}} for a mere "mention"; etc.

The former string would yield this result:

Kafroni: به (be, “otherwise, other”, speech particle)

In case "xme-kaf" does not work properly (it might be restricted to etymological fields?), then an alternative would be to refer to Kermanic (code: xme-ker) as a whole, and specify "Kafroni" (which seems to be the accepted spelling??) in a subtag:

{{m|xme-ker|به<q:Kafroni>|tr=''be''|t=otherwise, other|pos=speech particle}}

The latter would yield this:

Kermanic: (Kafroni) به (be, “otherwise, other”, speech particle)

— Hope this helps, Womtelo (talk) 15:07, 26 October 2022 (UTC).Reply

Dear Womtelo,

thank you very much! Out of the languages that are mentioned among "Kermanic" (whatever that means), Gavruni corresponds to these ones: Zoroastrian Dari, Behdināni, Behdinani, Gabri, Gavrŭni, Gavruni, Gabrōni, Gabroni, Kermani, Yazdi, but not to Kafroni. Do you think it would be possible to have it as an individual language in Wiktionary, especially since there is no decisive argument for a "Kermanic" group of languages (besides their geographical proximity, this is based on a work by Lecoq, les Parlers kermaniens, iirc)? In fact, I have noticed quite a lot of problems with Iranian classification, for example yesterday I made a comment on here https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Wiktionary_talk:List_of_languages because one of the intermediary branches does not exist/is not proven/includes languages that are unrelated)... Thank you in advance for your answer! ProjectDialex (talk) 15:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

hi ProjectDialex,

I have found a partial solution: namely, the code gbz which displays "Zoroastrian Dari". See here for example.

My worry is that I can only find gbz used on etymology pages, like *Háyas or *wafrah or *cárguš (search for "Zoro").

Notice the code:

* {{desc|xme-ker}}

** Kermani, {{desc|gbz|شیر|tr=šīr}}

which yields

* Kermanic:

** Kermani, Zoroastrian Dari: شیر (šīr)

I said "my worry", because I can only find Zoroastrian Dari mentioned in those Reconstruction pages (cf. Google search results) but I haven't found any Gavruni entry in Wiktionary (yet). Maybe you could try and create a new entry? using the code gbz instead of xme-ker? (you could start from the red link for وفره for example) Let's see how it goes.

In theory you could propose the creation of a new "language" for Gavruni, but this would take a lot of time and discussion, and I'm not even sure where (on Wikt) you could ask the question.

So, have a go at creating an entry for Gavruni (using the abbrev gbz in templates), and let's see if it works.

— Womtelo (talk) 15:51, 26 October 2022 (UTC).Reply

Hi Dialex,

I just tried to create an entry for "gbz" = Zoroastrian Dari, but the lg code gbz was not accepted → I had to write the entry at the higher level of Kermanic. (see my code) If you think this behaviour should be changed, then you could make a public request in the forum called Tea room?

best - Womtelo (talk) 12:39, 27 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello ProjectDialex, nice to see you again here. FYI, today I made this edit to the entry on *wahūnī. -- Womtelo (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2022 (UTC).Reply

Hello,

When you make a change like this one, don't forget to explain/justify it in the "Edit summary" box (or in the Talk page, if a longer explanation is necessary). Otherwise it looks like vandalism.

In this case, was the Akkadian example not a reflex of the root? or did you delete it just because it was a red link? (but redlinks are good). -- Womtelo (talk) 09:33, 16 February 2023 (UTC)Reply