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At ܡܘܫܟܠܐ you have it set up to look like there are three different words:
You have these showing all on the same line.
If you were really trying to show a masculine noun that has two different plurals, you should have used a single {{head}}
template with the first plural in a |g=
parameter and the second in a |g2=
parameter
If you were trying to show three separate items, you should have had each of the {{head}}
templates with an empty line and a definition line after it and an empty line between those and the next {{head}}
template.
If plurals have singular forms, they should have had "noun form" instead of "noun" in the {{head}}
template, and the definition should be something like "plural of" with a link to the singular. The best way to do this is with templates such as {{plural of}}
or {{inflection of}}
. The fact that the vowels aren't part of the entry name complicates things, but the same is true of many of the other Semitic languages.
I don't know the language, so I'm sure I'm missing something. Perhaps @Fenakhay or @Metaknowledge can help. Chuck Entz (talk) 15:37, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
I think you've gone wrong somewhere here. You seem to have put the word for England here in both Syriac and Latin script instead of the one for Wales. Copy-paste error or the like I'm assuming? 37.110.218.43 14:13, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
@Chuck Entz You're the first reasonably active admin I thought of...any idea what the hell is going on here for me? When I preview this page in edit mode the section title functions as a link as normal, but on the actual page it's showing up as merely plain text. 37.110.218.43 14:17, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Do you know anything about Garshuni Arabic? --Apisite (talk) 06:52, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
If so, then how much? --Apisite (talk) 07:02, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
What do you think of this new fairy tale in several languages, including Arabic?
Would you like it translated into Assyrian Neo-Aramaic?
That could be an interesting way to introduce anyone to the Syriac abjad. --Apisite (talk) 06:55, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
How could the term "International Dark Sky Week" be into Assyrian Neo-Aramaic translated?
How about the phrase "discover the night" being into Assyrian Neo-Aramaic translated? --Apisite (talk) 04:15, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
International Dark Sky Week: "ܫܲܒ݂ܘܼܥܵܐ ܬܹܒ݂ܹܝܠܵܝܵܐ ܕܫܡܲܝܵܐ ܚܸܫܟܵܢܵܐ" (šawuʿā tewēlāyā d-šmayyā ḵiškānā)
Discover the night: "ܚܒܘܿܪܹܗ ܠܲܝܠܹܐ" (ḵboreh layle) --Antonklroberts (talk) 13:56, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi! We're discussing how to best deal with Assyrian Neo-Aramaic romanizations on Wiktionary_talk:About_Assyrian_Neo-Aramaic. Since you're one of the most active editors, it would be great if you could join the discussion! Thank you! Sartma (talk) 11:19, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
What has your local community thought about your work on Assyrian Neo-Aramaic here in Wiktionary, if at all? --Apisite (talk) 02:57, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi Anton, are you able to help us out by contributing at Wiktionary:Requests for deletion/Non-English#ܐܬܘܪܝ to explain why you believe this entry should be deleted? Thanks! This, that and the other (talk) 10:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Hey Anton - thanks so much for all the work you're doing on wiktionary and your awesome tiktoks as well. I was taking a look at the IPA and noticed sometimes it's off. For example shouldn't
instead be ? https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/%DC%AB%DC%9A%DC%A0%DC%A6
instead be ? https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/%DC%A2%DC%9D%DC%A2%DC%98%DC%90?
I don't know how you're proofreading the IPA but you can test what it sounds like by plugging it into here http://ipa-reader.xyz/. It uses AWS Polly under the hood. It doesn't seem to care whether you include stress marks like the period, colon, etc... I recommend using Joanna's voice because that's the default most people use for Polly implementations.
Idk how "correct" this is but I've also used dictionary.com to look for english words that have similar sounds to assyrian words then I click "SHOW IPA" to get an idea of where to go.
Additionally if you wanted to test what the IPA should look like you can use this webapp which transliterates from assyrian to IPA and also latin https://assyrianphonetics.github.io/. It too is inaccurate but in different spots from yours which is why it can be useful for your proofing. I'd ignore the "Read Aloud" feature since it's mostly for test purposes and not as good as Polly's. This webapp is by Sargis Yonan who did the native iOS/macOS assyrian keyboard and Assyiran wordle https://mamlal.com. The code for the transliterator is here https://github.com/assyrian-Corpus-Project/syr2ipa/blob/main/syr2ipa.js.
I'm building some software using the wiktionary API which might make use of some of your work. I'm hyped for all the new lemmas you're adding and for the improved accuracy of the IPA. I'll be sure to drop you a note once I've fine tuned everything. 2600:1010:B028:C2F4:F96D:1C15:258C:9E1A 07:27, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Shlama, Anton
I've reverted this edit because you didn't explain the reasonings for it. Since:
Can you please provide summaries in the future for any such changes? --334a (talk) 16:14, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi, Anton!
active
participle |
passive
participle |
gerund
(always masculine) | |
---|---|---|---|
m | ܣܵܩܸܕ݂ | ܣܩܝܼܕ݂ܵܐ | ܣܩܵܕ݂ܵܐ |
f | ܣܵܩܕ݂ܵܐ | ܣܩܝܼܕ݂ܬܵܐ | |
p | (ܢ)ܼܣܵܩܕ݂ܝ | ܣܩܝܼܕܹ̈ܐ |
Cheers! --334a (talk) 06:35, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi, @Antonklroberts! I am a native English speaker who has (of late) developed an interest in the multiform varieties of Aramaic language. I have a couple of questions which I would like to address to yourself.
Since you created the page for ܐܗܐ, I wanted to confer with you regarding these words, about which I have been curious for some time, and have several questions. the first of these pertains to etymology. Have you any sense what the origin of these terms might be, in terms of a possible etymology? One Arabic speaking fellow indicated to me that ܐܘܐ and ܐܝܐ might derive respectively from the Arabic expressions ها هو hā hwa ("here he is") or ها هي hā hiya ("here she is"), or connative expressions to these within Aramaic itself. What is your opinion of this idea? If not , what might you conceive the origin to be? i am of the understanding that the various NENA dialects have done alot of borrowing from the Iranic languages (the western ones...Farsi and Kurdish, in particular, certainly not including Dari or Pashto!) Secondly, I am wondering how wide the distribution of these is across the field of Aramaic dialects. Is there any cognate terms to these in any variety of Western Aramaic, or are they only used within Eastern Aramaic dialects? Are there connate terms within Hebrew, or Arabic? I am under the assumption that by the term "Assyrian Neo-Aramaic", you mean "Suret" (ܣܘܪܝܬ), am I correct in so thinking?
Thank you for your efforts towards preserving the knowledge of Aramaic. These languages are so very endangered within the current political climate of the Middle East, that I feel it to be of tremendous importance that such preservation be achieved without too much delay. Cheers! 144.121.24.154 16:52, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
i added some less common words from the bible to https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/User:ColumbaBush/sandbox in case you wanted to check them out. i left these out of https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Module_talk:aii-translit to reduce the loading time of the talk page ColumbaBush (talk) 08:03, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
i spent a few mins today to teach myself a bit of lua so i can tweak some stuff here and there... i added these tests cases https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Module:Syrc-entryname/testcases and the counterpart logic here https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Module:Syrc-entryname
lmk if i went overboard, we can always remove stuff
also i went mainly off richard ishida's work here https://r12a.github.io/scripts/syrc/aii.html (this is legit) ColumbaBush (talk) 09:11, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Hey Anton - Our language is rapidly making it's way up to the top of this chart https://kaikki.org/dictionary/index.html thanks to all the awesome work you're doing 🎉
Using these two as an example:
In the 1st example you're saying that the lack of initial khwasa affects the pronunciation of the preceding word? I'm new to our language and wanted to better understand the concept, do you mind going into a bit of detail to explain it to me like I'm five? ColumbaBush (talk) 09:16, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Hey Anton - I just saw your tiktok abt unvocalized spelling where you said to leave out all markers but to use siyameh. Is that the only one, or are there any others from these 16 markers https://r12a.github.io/scripts/syrc/aii.html#index_cchars_other that should be included? ColumbaBush (talk) 10:14, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
hey anton i was trying to understand what this edit would do https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Module%3Aaii-translit&diff=71667281&oldid=71660877 but since the replacements are padded with "#" i don't think it would really have any effect
i took a leap of faith and think you were trying to fix this issue - if a yudh+khwasa is sandwiched between two voweless atutas then it should be an i not an ī UNLESS it's a "to be" like ܗܲܡܸܢܝܼܬܘܿܢ (hamminītōn)
if you see something is off you can always create a failing test case and explain in the edit summary why it shouldn't fail. im happy to help where i can, i just need the ask to be crystal clear in order to fix it ColumbaBush (talk) 21:44, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
(Also @ColumbaBush, Shuraya) How could the word ܥܕܬܐ be in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic pronounced? -- Apisite (talk) 10:44, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
(Also @ColumbaBush, Kristian Lahdo, Shuraya, 334a) Do the Arabic term قدير and its root have any cognates in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic? -- Apisite (talk) 03:50, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
(Also @ColumbaBush, Kristian Lahdo, Shuraya, 334a) I added {{aii-noun}}
to the entry ܛܝܡܐ. -- Apisite (talk) 04:29, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
(Also @ColumbaBush, Kristian Lahdo, Shuraya, 334a) How would the phrase happy New Year be translated into Assyrian Neo-Aramaic? -- Apisite (talk) 22:17, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
Are there any Assyrian Neo-Aramaic terms based on the Classical Syriac term ܢܝܙܟܐ?
Otherwise, could any Assyrian Neo-Aramaic translations be added in the English entries through that Classical Syriac entry? -- Apisite (talk) 21:48, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Also, what about ܣܲܪܢܵܐ (sarnā)? --Apisite (talk) 09:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Speaking of the entry ܛܠܘܡܐ, could the following sentence be added there? It's as follows:
"Those who can make you absurd can make you unjust."
Thanks for reading. -- Apisite (talk) 07:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
shlama anton - awesome work splitting up the verb templates into the respective g-stem, c-stem, d-stem conjugations - this has been so helpful for me in better understanding our language
i wasnt sure if you were aware but you can verify if the deleted templates are still used anywhere via https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?search=hastemplate%3Aaii-conj-verb%2FB4i ColumbaBush (talk) 02:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
I keep finding your entries in Category:Assyrian Neo-Aramaic entries with incorrect language header. Notice that it's "Aramaic", not "Aramiac". It's an easy mistake to make, but this is a dictionary- so correct spelling matters. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 05:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I've deleted the subpages of aii-conj-verb that you nominated for deletion except Template:aii-conj-verb/B4i because a few pages still use it. Can you please fix the links? Also, in the future, use {{d}}
for obsolete and orphaned templates rather than {{rfd}}
. Ultimateria (talk) 06:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)