Wiktionary:Feedback

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September 2024

desert (Serbocroatian)

https://kakosepise.com/rec/desert-ili-dezert/


There may be an alternate pravopis added: dezert. Also the Croatian Language portal knows a link for dezert, linking to desert.

--Rasmusklump (talk) 10:59, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

are izneveriti and iznevjeriti the same words?

vrt

Serbocroatian: The entry rat as synonym for vrt (garden), I couldnt verfy it by several dicionaries or Links by google. Should it mean rt?


--Rasmusklump (talk) 13:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

amenable

Hello, I would like to suggest that in seeking the correct spelling and usage of words, that there also should be correct and fluent examples of said usage grammaticlly expressed; e.g. I before E, a or an, etc. It would be a further help to everyone. — This unsigned comment was added by 2603:7080:553a:733e:6480:1aef:8528:d0cb (talk).

We have entry for I before E, except after C. Denazz (talk) 18:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Results

No, I don't want to "See also the other search results found."! You are driving me mad with that feature!!--Manfariel (talk) 02:09, 15 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I like the feature Denazz (talk) 18:44, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

razočarati has an entry razočarano, in the wordlist

http://www.vokabeln.de/v3/vorschau/Kroatisch_Alltag.htm

there is an entry razočarno without fleeing a. Is this form also possible? — This unsigned comment was added by Rasmusklump (talkcontribs).

adverse

I think that you guys should title morphology on these words so that people like me can find the exact section of where the morphology of the word is. Thank you! — This unsigned comment was added by 108.48.85.75 (talk).

Information about morphology of a word belongs in ===Etymology=== or ===Derived terms=== sections. Denazz (talk) 18:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

What's the origin or etymology of the Tagalog word "liham"? Explain in detail - thank you

gubernator

Perhaps a dark mode, similar to that of Wikipedia. I was taken here through a hyperlink on a Wikipedia page regarding a latin word and it was a rather unpleasantly sudden flash of white background. "Chase"

Dark mode is being rolled out, but I'm not sure when it will be enabled here: https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/07/17/dark-modes-bright-future-how-dark-mode-will-transform-wikipedias-accessibility/. In the short term, users can create their own CSS and apply it to this site. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:49, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

The following verbs should also be taken into consideration in this respect: - The door blew open/blew shut. - One of the tigers broke loose. - I'm ready to cut loose and enjoy the weekend. - They hung tough despite the hardships. - This simple idea holds true. - They married young. - Their jokes have worn thin.

October 2024

Special:Contributions/3_teens_in_a_trench_coat

Wiktionary is a super cool project, and as a student I am going to recommend to my english teacher that as a fun project/extra credit assignment each member of the class make an account here, find a requested article on that tab, and make the article for that word to contribute. We shall see how it goes3 teens in a trench coat (talk) 18:50, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, @3 teens in a trench coat. May I suggest that instead of editing entries directly, you create "sandboxes" in your userspace and edit those instead? For example, instead of editing dictionary, create a page called "User:3 teens in a trench coat/dictionary" and edit that instead. The reason is that we have quite strict rules about the content of entries and how they must be formatted, and if you don't follow then you may find your edits reverted even before your teacher has had a chance to look at what you've done and given credit for it. Once you have finished editing your sandboxed entries, you can leave a message at "Wiktionary:Tea room" requesting for help to see if your changes can be incorporated into the actual entries. — Sgconlaw (talk) 21:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

post-

I have written this elsewhere and shall keep writing it until it is fixed. One of the what appears to me ever-deepening problems with Wiktionary which also feeds into Wikipedia is the use of:

(Curly Brackets changed a bit so they don't automatically get wiki-formated)

   "{.{lang|???|someword}.}" type links that do not seem to land properly on pages and show as BLUE/(LINKED) even when the language "ABC" (for example, Old English, "ang") used in the "{.{lang|ABC|commonwordinmultiplelanguages}.}" is not on that page, so the link should show in RED/(UNLINKED/BROKEN/NOT THERE). 

These links are very troubling as it is suggesting that they are correct in what they land upon when clicked, when they most definitely ARE NOT many times when I look at them. I have a fairly good understanding of languages and etymologies, but there are plenty out there coming to Wiktionary who will not know that the destination landing of the link shows wrong information, and if and when they wise up to the fact, they will think Wiktionary is not a very reliable source of information.

These new-ish links are being used instead of the old way of linking using square brackets:

  ".]" type links that land EXACTLY IN THE RIGHT PLACE when they are there, and show as RED/(UNLINKED/BROKEN/NOT THERE) when they are not!

It seems a perfectly good and working system has been replaced over the last couple of years with one that does not work properly even when the correct information is present, and suggests that it is there even when it is not. And this new-ish format has been used thousands upon thousands of times and so there is an ever-growing pile of rubbish links to fix building up.

I use Wiktionary a lot for its excellent etymology information that goes right back into Proto-Indo-European and similar, but all the hard work of all those good people who have contributed their free time to making Wiktionary a valuable resource are being let down by this rubbish format design. And now when I edit Wiktionary entries I feel loathe to use this newer format and add to the mess it is causing.

It feels to me like Wiktionary has been hijacked to provide some sort of languages research tool for some unknown parties behind the scenes, rather than a simple but accurate dictionary for the public that does exactly what it should do, and clearly show when the correct info is missing for the user (and thus editing additions are needed by editors) by showing dead RED links.

If my moaning needs further explaining please contact me for some clarification as I would love to help fix this. I am generally against over-complicating Wikipedia, but suffer it when it at least works in a way someone might find useful - this is over-complicating Wiktionary AND doesn't work, which is a double crime!

Rgds

Nobbo69 (talk) 03:16, 11 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have no perspective on the main point you're making, but please do use the nowiki tag for these code examples instead of curly brackets. Just start with "<nowiki>" and end with "</nowiki>" and the text in between will not be converted into links. E.g. To insert a link, put in ]. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:24, 11 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

gell

Good morning everyone,

In the German section of this page, Etymology 2 paragraph, "Alsace" doesn't have a link. I have tried to edit the relevant template sections to fix this, but I'm not allowed, so the work falls back to you. What I have found out is that Alsace does not appear in the German section of the Template:label/list page. My guess is that adding the Alsatian template from the Alemannic German section, to the German section, should solve this problem.

Disclaimer : I'm Alsatian and I'm a little bit sad that Alsace doesn't have a link while everyone else does :)

Thank you, have a nice weekend.

Yours sincerely 2A02:8428:6E68:3D01:A50B:1E19:883D:5860 07:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wiktionary:Thesaurus

I have not found a thesaurus that I am satisfied with. I switch back and forth between thesaurus.com and Wikisaurus (this place), and while these two are the top contenders, neither is perfect. Thesaurus.com has way more narrow entries, but the bombardment of ads deters me. Wikisarus is more comprehensive and lacks ads, but I often can't find a page for the specific word I'm looking for.

That is why, whenever I can, I intend to add entries to Wikisaurus. The UI and the format of this place is unlike any other, and I believe it could become my №1 choice for a thesaurus. --Diriector Doc (talk) 21:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your work. If you have any other suggestions on how we can improve the thesaurus, please let us know. —Justin (koavf)TCM 00:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

To the wikipedia editors who have made this article; I love you. Yours sincerely, random reader.

A category with "nounses" in the title? This looks like a typo to me. --2001:9E8:D4A5:4A00:ED2:92FF:FED1:D909 18:37, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Benwing2:, as you created this. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Koavf: he didn't, his bot did, as part of its routine patrolling of Special:WantedCategories. It looks like the category was added to some entry by mistake, and Wingerbot found the redlink in WantedCategories before the error was corrected. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:25, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Word of the day: embarrassingly parallel

How do we call it the 'Word' of the Day when it is a 2 word 'phrase'? (Referring to 10/25: "embarrassing parallel") Faunamferenbach (talk) 18:08, 25 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Faunamferenbach: "Term of the day" isn't really that catchy … — Sgconlaw (talk) 21:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Prim as in prim and proper was originally an insult referring to Primitive Methodists (a radical break away from mainstream Methoedism) and later was used to describe anyone who was straight laced, anti-drink etc. rather than just members of that sect

Yay Ft

Good article

Special:Search

HI, DERECT ME IN THE BOX — This unsigned comment was added by 216.124.161.130 (talk).

YOU ARE IN IT NOW. HOW CAN WE HELP? —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
YOU WERE IN MY BOX! I HOPE YOU LIKED IT. P. Sovjunk (talk) 20:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

mam (Serbocroatian)

There is another definition for mam at https://hjp.znanje.hr/index.php?show=search_by_id&id=e1xlWhk%3D

1. ono što mami, mamljenje, velika privlačnost čega, neodoljivost koja privlači 2. čin, radnja, zvuk itd. koji mami


As far as I understand the 2nd meaning is "siren song".

Maybe someone knows and can add the 2nd meaning...?

November 2024

Special:Search

It's "Bannerghatta Biological Park" instead of Bannerughatta National Park. — This unsigned comment was added by Prisharma11 (talkcontribs) at 00:14, 3 November 2024.

@Prisharma11: I think you meant to post this comment at the English Wikipedia, not here at the English Wiktionary. Anyway, according to the article "w:Bannerghatta National Park", the Bannerghatta Biological Park is a "small portion" of the National Park. — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:37, 2 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

evil

Also used to describe particular problems "the evil complained of", "the social evil" (sex work/prostitution), others I'm not recalling now. 69.202.207.228 00:56, 8 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Already there as sense 2 of the noun. Arafsymudwr (talk) 07:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

bombachas

This entry states the origin of the English word is the identical Spanish word but the definition given is Baggy knee-breeches worn for horseriding in Brazil. Can someone confirm the Brazil part? It seems to me that if such pants were worn only in Brazil, we wouldn't use a Spanish word for them. (I found this entry by following an interwiki link to bombacha in the Wikipedia article Gaucho. —⁠71.105.243.101 08:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)Reply