Wiktionary:Information desk/2024/December

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Assistance with an etymology update

Hi all,

New to Wiktionary - I've been learning some Woiwurring (language of my mob). I made an update to the Woiwurrung etymology, but I'm not confident I've referenced correctly/followed the correct formatting etc. I was hoping someone could take a look and let me know how to fix it up/make any required edits so I can learn from there before I make any further edits. TIA all. JakeEwings (talk) 10:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

How do I edit https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Template:auto_cat#top

The page https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Category:en:Chess has the 'English terms related to x' redirect to https://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/ches in the link which is supposed to redirect to chess, not ches, and I don't know how to change it 2804:14C:124:A20F:599:D76:1C3B:F89E 18:29, 4 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

The term for a word used to refer to itself

Have been searching in vain for the grammatical term for "a word used as a name for itself", such as "cheese" in "Cheese is derived from the Old English ċēse". Should be simple to track down, but I'm flummoxed.

  • So, to Google, of course. It immediately suggested autology, which is an interesting phenomenon but definitely not what I'm looking for (it refers to a word or phrase that describes itself, not one that names itself).
  • A second search recommended autonymous, one of whose senses is "(of a symbol, word, term, etc) Exhibiting autonymy; used as a name for itself", which sounds exactly like the correct definition. Unfortunately, however, I could not easily find attestation of that particular sense elsewhere on Wiktionary or on another site, and the meanings that I could find on Wiktionary for that family of words are still not what I'm after.
  • One of those entries links to a Wikipedia article on use–mention distinction, which definitely does address my question, and employs the term signifier (3rd paragraph of the article). Signifier, though, appears to be too broad: Lots of different entities can serve as signifiers, and they don't have to signify themselves.
  • From the Wiki article on italics, we get an excellent description ("entioning a word as an example of a word rather than for its semantic content"). Conspicuously absent, however, is an actual single term for this.
  • Same with the article on quotation marks: An "instance of a word refers to the word itself rather than its associated concept". Another good description, but still no official name for such a thing.

So it seems not even Wikipedia provides the answer. Normally, if some arcane word has ever been used for a particular concept, it can readily be found there, even if not on any other quickly accessible source. Thus I wonder whether the term I want exists at all. — HelpMyUnbelief (talk) 19:20, 4 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Isn't what you're referring to just a mention? As seen in use-mention distinction. 115.188.72.131 09:17, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Of course such an occurrence is a mention as opposed to a use. But again, I'm looking for the generally recognized, unambiguous grammatical term for a mentioned word, on the same par of specificity with, say, "phrase", "noun", "postpositive", or "copula". Surely "mention" is not the name that linguists would use; it looks like a far worse candidate than "signifier". — HelpMyUnbelief (talk) 22:33, 5 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

"Buzzword" label

IP tried to request a "buzzword" label but that discussion went silent with no action nor consensus. So, i'm going to re-request that label here, and here's what the code would look like:

labels = {
	display = "]",
	pos_categories = "buzzwords"
}

Examples of entries that would be labelled as buzzwords, as copied directly from IP: big data, AI, artificial intelligence, cloud computing, metaverse, internet of things, extended reality, XR (in the extended reality sense), and spatial computing.

Sincerely, 67.209.129.129 05:34, 11 December 2024 (UTC)Reply