on this tagging, but did my best... considering my mind was more engaged on the wikipedia side and finishing such, this was a good start. Thanks for the fix ups. Linguistics was and will never be my thing.
Wiktionary is supposed to be free, not censored. --85.156.132.203 11:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Should this be removed too: Hogwarts? --85.156.132.203 11:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Ciao! Wow, that's great! A question for you: how do we create entries for verbs which are reflexive and not reflexive at the same time (i.e. cacciare/cacciarsi, fermare/fermarsi)? Do we need two separate entries or a single one is sufficient? and what about conjugation? Tnx, Barbara.
Thanks for telling me this. I'm making the requests for you guys' sake, not my own: I was under the impression the general userbase wants the wiktionary to be as extensive as possible, so when I (very frequently) find entries missing (often very basic ones, like "reload"), I add the request as a way to point it out (and if people think the request is invalid and want to delete it, that's fine with me). Is this behavior inappropriate??
... knows too much to be a newbie? Robert Ullmann 00:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
My home IP has been blocked for no reason that I can see - could you please unblock it or at least enable me to log in from my home IP?
Thanks, Mrbowtie 15:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I thought that's what I pasted in, but I just got a rectangle with a title written in it. Perhaps I hadn't copied it correctly. --Enginear 23:16, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, you reverted my edits on zonal without any explanation. Could you elaborate? 142.58.206.114 00:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure of the etymology. I couldn't find any reference to them containing halogen atoms. SemperBlotto 12:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Owing to my being denied the right to talk, which in itself seems unreasonable for anyone, denying the right to a defence, I am forced to resort to contact your Wikipedia user through mine. However, it seems that you do not watch that account's talk page a zealously as this, so, by means of a third party, I have sent you this message. Due to extreme laziness I will not repeat what I said on your other talk page, but simply request that you review it. Written by 86.138.152.171 ( w:User:The_Fish) 10:25, 8 January 2007 (UTC) on behalf of Mrbowtie 10:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC).
That was me. I forgot to sign in as Mrbowtie as I was somewhat confused by this procedure - the denial of a right to defence is indeed puzzling especially from an apparently-experienced Wikipedian such as yourself.
That was me again. I forgot to sign the thing. Mrbowtie 10:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand your definition...Care to explain, "the title deeds were a copy of the manorial roll"?zigzig20s 23:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't know how to do that. zigzig20s 20:27, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Too much info. zigzig20s 20:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
You're the man!! Thanks!! Thanks to you I've learned the meaning of some awesome new words!
Thanks Jeff, your work on actionee is fantastic. Much appreciated. --Lbussell68 03:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I can understand deleting twistification based on the empty content that was left after Eean moved the actual contents to the talk page, especially since I had forgotten to log in before entering it. However, it would have been better to check the talk page first (and I'll mention to Eean that it would have been better to leave "see talk page" or something in the main article).
I'm a bit touchy on the subject, having been through several wars over articles being removed for no good reason, losing useful work in the process. In this case, I'd made an effort to preserve what information I had found already and was unhappy to see it blown away. This is why I disagree (to at least some extent) with Connel's "you can always re-create it" argument. However, now that I've looked up "which trigger-happy admin" it was, I'm more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt.
Clearly the problem of keeping out garbage and vandalism while still encouraging new entries has not magically gone away in my absence. I'm thinking I might start (yet another) thread on the Beer Parlour about it. Anyway, keep up the good work -dmh 16:11, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I think that if I can add Javascript patrolling features that you use, the current patrolling system might actually stand a chance of not being overwhelmed.
Currently, you don't mark anything that you clean up as "patrolled." I sincerely wish you would.
Are there any other patrol features you think I should pursue, from the Javascript side? Which features, in your mind, have the highest precedence? Which features would make you inclined to turn on the WT:PREFS advanced patrolling stuff and start using it?
Thanks in advance,
--Connel MacKenzie 20:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
P.S. In my mind, once something has been wikified, or tagged with RFV, the "patrolling" of that edit has been completed, and therefore it should be marked as patrolled. --Connel MacKenzie 20:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Wikking... What was so wrong about it?
It's in the protologisms.
Do you have a copy of the SOED handy, to check this over? --Connel MacKenzie 06:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you both! --Connel MacKenzie 20:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that rollback was quite right. I know that when I've generated frequency counts, it has been a pain to get the capitalization correct. If someone manually fixes the auto-generated wikilinks, that is generally a Good Thing.
--Connel MacKenzie 22:33, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Sometime between when the entry it's all Greek to me was nominated, and now (when it actually is WOTD), someone added a plethora of wonderful, excellent Quotations.
But the focus of the entry (for the WOTD) is the translations. The translations section is not only hidden by default from the trans-top/trans-bottom thing, it is also several pages/screens down, hidden from anything but the most dedicated searching.
Do we have a hide-section thing for long quotations sections like that? --Connel MacKenzie 00:38, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
{{top}}
/mid/bottom. --Connel MacKenzie 01:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)Perhaps we should consider protecting WOTDs. Or have a hell of a lot more sysops watching them closely. --Connel MacKenzie 08:56, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I really can't tell if I'm being objective with regard to illiteracy/WT:BP#illiteracy. Can you (or someone) please review this, and roll back Dmh's changes if you agree with me, or correct me if I'm out to lunch? --Connel MacKenzie 17:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I put the blog links with words as appropriate, at requested entries, so that people trying to define the word can see it in context. Also, it could be the case that the word has two senses, and when I see it in one sense, and put it on the list out-of-context, someone defines it with another sense. Thanks for all your hard work responding to the requested articles page, everybody really appreciates it :-)
The ELE advocates the header "Quotations", not "Citations". This is of course at odds with the practice of having "Citations" pages, so it might be worth opening a discussion to standardize one way or the other. Technically speaking, I think a shift to Citations would be easier, though it would require a larger number of editorial changes. --EncycloPetey 17:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Spam one you just blocked also created the same page on Books & Commons, blocked on books for the second time and I've put a note on the Admin board on commons (curiosity made me check!). Regards --Herbythyme 09:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
See w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trickyness. Uncle G 18:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Please be more careful not to repeat spam/personal info in the deletion log (via tha deletion log comments.) --Connel MacKenzie 15:04, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Your cleanup of this article added a link to the article on Wikipedia; which doesn't exist. The original version of the entry should be transwikied. --EncycloPetey 01:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure sukiyaki has to be made with beef as the meat or that it needs to be cooked at the table (I think you can get it to go). Instead of cooked quickly at the table maybe it should say stir fried and instead of beef say meat. RJFJR 17:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
See User talk:Connel MacKenzie#Protecting titles against creation. Uncle G 14:09, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Buongiorno! Which is the right category for adverbial phrases such as in anticipo, in orario, in ritardo? Category:Italian adverbs, Category:Italian phrasebook or both of them? Tnx. --Barmar 11:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Please see my entry on the RfD page. I may not have appropriately linked it, been a while since I used RfD. Paul Willocx 22:35, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Ah, good to know! I must admit I had't seen it..
But in this case it doesn't work, we'd need a {{it-conj-iarsi|}}
instead. The right conjugation doesn't have that double i "ii" in the indicative present, subjunctive present and imperative tenses, but a single "i" (annoi, annoiamo etc.). Buona giornata. --Barmar 10:21, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
OK - fixed I have generated one. SemperBlotto 16:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the definition. I was just trying to compose one when I noticed that you had added one much more precise than I would have achieved! Dbfirs 17:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, you've been invited to IRC. To get there, click the little IRC link to the right of . (That signs you in to irc://irc.freenode.net/wiktionary with your Wiktionary username.) At this point, it is still an experimental proof of concept. It uses Javascript to call a CGI-IRC page, which loads a Java client in a new window of your browser. If demand increases I'll put it on toolserver properly. Hope to see you there soon. --Connel MacKenzie 00:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello Jeff. I would have thought the great value of wiktionary, without the page constraints of traditional printed dictionaries, is to give a fuller description of the English Language in it's richness. If words like pfaffing are deleted, I begin to understand why so many words which form part of my London English are not described in wiktionary. Are you aware of an alternative wiktionary I can use instead, which may be more useful?
With a bit of nuclear magic—if it meets with your approval—no more nuclide-2 and -3 ... ? Robert Ullmann 16:49, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
There is a need for this chemical engineering term, but the explanations I can find are a bit complicated for me to attempt to summarize. --EncycloPetey 20:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC) OK - done. Ah, chemical engineering - I must see if we have a definition for bucket chemistry! SemperBlotto 22:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I didn't know about the It/Wikipedia thing, thanks! As to deltaplanista, the singular and the masculine plural forms are both correct, the feminine plural instead is deltaplaniste.--Barmar 06:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
You are welcome to check the rest of my contributes, too... I'm new in here, so it's possible that I have done some silly mistakes... Thank! Peleg
Didn't even know said template existed, thanks. -E. abu Filumena 08:50, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Y'all done did come up with a heap a them there newfangled-like contraptions whiles I was away... thanks again. :) -E. abu Filumena 09:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I see you've been busy weeding out the chaff. Good stuff.
I've just added a note ("PLEASE READ") to RFD about why we should avoid "sum of parts" as a reason for deletion or for a RFD. I'm on a bit of a campaign - if enough of us stop using it, hopefully its use will die out. — Paul G 15:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks for that instructive pice of edit / cleanup on my first foray into Wiktionary. Regards Chris
I'm not familiar with this term in the sense of "time trial". Apparently it is indeed feminine - a Google search of "la cronometro" gives 21,900 hits. Do you know if it is short for something that is clearly feminine, like "la corsa cronometro"? There are no Google hits for that phrase. — Paul G 18:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey :-) Thanks for all your great work lately deleting tosh entries. As well as your tireless inspiring work on the English requested entries page.
When I saw sex-date (which you just deleted), I also wanted to flag it as {{rfsd}}
, but something told me I should check b.g.c. first. To my surprise, "sex date" ( without the hyphen) actually seems to meet inclusion criteria. Hehe, you learn something new every day :-)
Hi. Thanks for the welcome. I'm only a junior at Latin and also formatting so I don't know everything. Hopefully I'll pick it up as I work. I did look at the model examples you left. :D They seem quite complicated... I'll just try and get my head round it.Alakazam138 12:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, pretty sure that when these are used as headers, we want them at L4 under the L3 POS. (mind you, we don't list these headers anywhere ;-) Robert Ullmann 12:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I.e. what is the adjective for contamination? I.e. This is a ... substance. Thanks in advance --193.144.127.231 14:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it reasonable to alter Template:third-person singular of so if lang is not specified it adds a category for category:third-person singular with unspecified lang? So ones without lang (because I didn't know it needed it) can be fixed. RJFJR 05:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering why you reverted my edit to review back on 3 Dec? It's a legitimate definition which was otherwise missing from the page. --DrGaellon | Talk 04:39, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I hadn't used the template as I don't beleive it is countable. Even in English it seems awkward.-E. abu Filumena 17:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a ton for all the adverbs you've been making. I'm always trying to find new adverbs since it seems that is the type of word of which English has the relative fewest. We definitely appreciate your terrific adverb hunting!!! By the way, I made a new template, {{Template:en-adv-lacks-inflect}}, so if you can't figure out the comparability stuff, you can use that and it will automatically put the entry in both Category:English adverbs and Category:English adverbs that lack inflection template. The former is really great since Category:English adverbs has less than a thousand entries :) Hope this is useful to you :-) Signed, Language Lover
Hi Houston, we have a problem! Please give a look at europei and europee (or italiani and italiane). The masculine form also includes the category English plurals. What's happening? -- (added: the plural of meretricio is meretrici, the same as meretrice. Only a few Italian nouns are invariable and most of them are foreign words). Barmar 14:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Since you're not running the competition this time, I hope you have lots of fun participating! --EncycloPetey 02:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
When you're back from your holiday, could you have a look at vinyl please? I've changed the hyphen in the chemical formula to a minus sign - is this correct? Is this meant to be minus sign or a single bond/simple bond (?) as opposed to a double bond? You're the chemistry pro, so please make any changes necessary if I've got it wrong. Thanks. — Paul G 12:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
It is a single covalent bond. I don't mind what character you use to symbolise it.
I have given definitions to your vinyl words that were lacking them, and will get round to the red links eventually. SemperBlotto 22:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I saw you just deleted shakey. Don't we have redirects for common misspellings? --MathiasRav 22:28, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I am new to this branch of wiki so can you please tell me why you removed the meaning (music) choir or orchestra or both together; (as opposed to a cappella) from the word capella? VirtualSteve 04:04, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
It didn't seem to make sense. I will add something similar - but it is not "as opposed to a cappella". SemperBlotto 08:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I am thinking - verb to finger as in on a guitar, adverb fingering as in he was fingering the piece on his guitar? But your thoughts are very welcome... --VS talk 10:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
You need to know what English parts of speech mean if you are going to edit Wiktionary. In "he was fingering", fingering is the present participle of the verb to finger. In "he was fingering fluently", fluently is an adverb. I shall delete fingersatz unless you can prove it is real. SemperBlotto 10:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you again I appreciate supportive administrators and clearly you are attempting to be just that - however you are confusing me a little by writing to both my page and to your own page. Perhaps it is my fault because I tend to respond at the initial entry and then copy to other pages as necessary so as to keep the flow of any particular message string fluent. Perhaps it will better for you if I adjust this entry to a Noun - but then a question - is it written (in wiktionary) with a capital or not? --VS talk 11:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, German nouns HAVE to start with a capital letter. And yes, it is much simpler if we reply ONLY in one place. SemperBlotto 11:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Also, for inflected languages, we like to add the gender and the plural forms. I have done that for Fingersatz and linked it to German Wikipedia. SemperBlotto 11:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
That's a lovely expansion on this word (and also I note for Fingersatz just now) - you clearly have a good dictionary or two at your disposal - I will be happy to commence words and leave editors such as yourself with a better grasp on this game to expand (well at least for the time being). But a question if I may (I promise I have other friends to write to (smile)) - are Italian nouns not in capitals or just not in capitals in this entry because it is more than just a noun listing? --VS talk 11:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
No, Italian nouns don't usually start in capital letters. Only Italian proper nouns. SemperBlotto 11:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Cheers! --VS talk 11:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
...you were sorely missed.
On another note, please reconsider turning on the WT:PREFS sysop-only section "Patrolling enhancements." and "Patrol in "expert mode" with no alerts." items, and checking off items you've patrolled as you clear them. Turning these two items on adds "(Mark)" links on Special:Recentchanges, that don't do an extra page load to check off.
--Connel MacKenzie 13:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for deleting the misspelling/redirect. I would have requested it, but I am much, much less familiar with wiktionary than wikipedia. Could you point me to a few pages that would help me with sush topics? Scoutersig 12:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
The data comes from Social Security Administration, and concerns the years 1880-2005. The periods listed refer to the decades when at least 0.5 per cent of the gender group bore the name. I will specify it in the article when I get the data written down, Glad to know somebody is interested.--Makaokalani 08:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I am Nino, Italian from Venice, and I am one of the sysops of the German Wiktionary. I am making here occasionally some contributions (not very much) in Italian and German. Will you please watch them and tell me if some time the syntax is not correct? You can be sure that the words are OK.
Excuse my bad English, it was very good forty years ago, now I am speaking only German all the time and I forgot half of it. Ciao --Nino Barbieri 15:32, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Difficile is an obsolete English word meaning "difficult" (see here). I will add the English form to its entry. Tim w. 16:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
You frequently edit my edits and you know what my edits are like. Do you have an opinion on the problem described here?
No. SemperBlotto 18:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Why you deleted my stub for любовь? :-O --Jaroslavleff 06:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I added a second sense, as I didn't think that the initial sense really conveyed my own understanding of the word. If you have a problem with this, please feel free to let me know. Otherwise, I apologize for wasting your time. Atelaes 08:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I checked up on it, and it's a real Latin word. I'll add a reference. Galanskov 23:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I prefer that Patriot missile have its own page, and not a redirect, as you have done. But, how do we handle Patriot? Should it remain a separate page? Link to Patriot missile? Thanks Ben 19:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I've just had a go at a thorough revision of early. The important part of which is that it didn't have an adjective definition! I have added three adjectival senses, though the defnitions I wrote might need some tweaking. Also, could you provide the appropriate Italian translations for the adjectival senses and verify that presto is the correct translation for the Adverb? Thanks. --EncycloPetey 20:06, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
The second adjective sense feels like the adverb to me. Arriving a time before expected; sooner than on-time. In the example ("You're early today!"), doesn't early modify an implied verb? Ben 23:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I've added a chemistry sense for this suffix, but am not sure I trust my memory that it's used principally to form the names of proteins. Is its use more specific? More general? --EncycloPetey 21:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
What is the (Wiktionary-specific?) meaning of bgc - I keep coming across it. --Keene 10:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
It means books.Google.com - but the Google book search function is now at - but the initialism seems to have stuck. SemperBlotto 10:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! Please can you delete this category http://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Category:it:Bovines I've created by mistake? Poor me, I definitely need a pair of glasses. Thanks! --Barmar 13:15, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Exactly what was stupid about this user (other than the user name)? All the edits I see look fine. Robert Ullmann 08:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thanks--Ghaly 17:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm besides my self that I made edits to penultimate and added comments on the topic on the talk page and you did an rv without commenting on the talk page. From Wiktionary:Dispute resolution:
"First resort: talk to the other parties involved "The first resort in resolving almost any conflict is to discuss the issue on a talk page. Either contact the other party on that user's talk page, or use the talk page associated with the article in question. If the latter, since the article Talk pages are little used, it is wise to add a <!--Hidden Note--> on the article page alongside your edit, in case the other editor fails to notice. Never carry on a dispute on the article page itself. When discussing an issue, stay cool and don't mount personal attacks. Take the other person's perspective into account and try to reach a compromise. Assume that the other person is acting in good faith unless you have clear evidence to the contrary.
"Both at this stage and throughout the dispute resolution process, talking to other parties is not simply a formality to be satisfied before moving on to the next forum. Failure to pursue discussion in good faith shows that you are trying to escalate the dispute instead of resolving it. This will make people less sympathetic to your position and may prevent you from effectively using later stages in dispute resolution. In contrast, sustained discussion and serious negotiation between the parties, even if not immediately successful, shows that you are interested in finding a solution that fits within Wiktionary policies."
please rv your rv and move it to the talk page.
I've requested your comments back at penultimate 70.17.109.5 22:57, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I've offered evidence for penultimate=best back at the penultimate discussion. Care to comment? 70.17.109.5 02:28, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Is the empty set countable or uncountable? (just a thought) SemperBlotto 13:48, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm new to Wiktionary, so I'm just wondering why you reverted my edit to DNA. "DNA" really is the stock ticker symbol for Genentech. My contribution seemed to be consistent with other entries like BLS. I don't work for Genentech nor do I own their stock, I just know sometimes stock market commentators refer to the company as "DNA". --Georgeryp 17:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to disturb you! Would you just tell me if the example sentence in swan on the Polish Wiktionary is correct to you? There are a lot of similar sentences there, and we somehow can't come to any agreement on this matter. Some people say it's American English, but I can't find any sources that confirm this. Thank you! :) Pomarancza (PL) 14:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot!!! Pomarancza (PL) 15:45, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jeff, could you please give a look at this to see if it's correct, so that I could create other similar entries? (i.e. giallorosso ->As Roma, bianconero-> Juventus, rossonero->Milan) Tnx! --Barmar 14:11, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. I didn't know the meaning of that phrase and, searching through Google books, I haven't yet found a usage outside of the US. I wonder why that is? SemperBlotto 08:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Is this really only applied to terrorists? And is this phrase used outside Oz? Widsith 19:13, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Ta. Widsith 06:53, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
You might know this already, but I came across a curious fact over the weekend.
In brushing up my (Modern) Greek, I looked up "masculine" (and "feminine" and "neuter") in my Greek-English dictionary, and found that "masculine" (in both the sense of "male" and as the grammatical term) is (transliterated) arsenikós. I then looked up the etymology of "arsenic" and it is indeed this word (or, rather, the Ancient Greek equivalent). Apparently in ancient times (when alchemy was popular, I suppose) metals were considered to be male or female, and arsenic was thought to be male.
"Feminine" is thilykós and "neuter" is "oudéteros" but I don't think any elements are derived from these; as you probably know, "lithium" comes from lithos, stone, and deuterium comes from deuteros, second. The Wikipedia page of etymologies of the names of chemical elements does not mention the "male" part of the etymology of "arsenic". — Paul G 11:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Why do you request verification of pigin? Don’t you trust Wikipedia?
Of course not. It is a secondary source, written by people like you and me. SemperBlotto 16:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jeff - would you like to check out the Tub frock entry and talk page? You flagged it originally and I believe it has been cited sufficiently and should not be deleted. Your opinion will be respected. I would like the flag to be removed. Gekritzl 00:35, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, you are probably right. I have moved it - you will probably want to check I've done it right as I'm not yet familiar with all the style/formatting conventions here. Thryduulf 13:55, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I've got an answer that gives us an answer to your original question. See my talk page. — Paul G 16:04, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I seem to remember you did something like this with Italian recently. Is there an easy way of wikifying every word in a given Word document? Bear in mind I have no programming skills and basically don't understand words like bot or applet.... Widsith 11:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Great. Post it up, that'd be fab! Widsith 11:15, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Sub Wikify() ' ' Wikify Macro ' Wikify text by removing strange characters and putting double square brackets around words ' Selection.Find.ClearFormatting Selection.Find.Replacement.ClearFormatting ' ' Remove punctuation marks ' Punct = ".,;:?!%=/\()" For I = 1 To 14 With Selection.Find .Text = Mid(Punct, I, 1) .Replacement.Text = " " .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = False .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False End With Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Next I For I = 0 To 9 With Selection.Find .Text = I .Replacement.Text = "" .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = False .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False End With Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Next I With Selection.Find .Text = """" .Replacement.Text = " " .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = True .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False End With Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll ' ' Replace double spaces with single (cheap and nasty method) ' For I = 1 To 5 With Selection.Find .Text = " " .Replacement.Text = " " .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = False .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False End With Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll Next I ' ' Put wikifying brackets each side of the spaces ' With Selection.Find .Text = " " .Replacement.Text = "]] [[" .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = False .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False End With Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll ' ' Put wikifying brackets each side of a new line ' With Selection.Find .Text = vbCr .Replacement.Text = "]] [[" .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = False .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False End With Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll ' ' Put wikifying brackets at the end and beginning of the text ' Selection.WholeStory Selection.Range.Case = wdLowerCase Selection.EndKey Unit:=wdStory Selection.TypeText Text:="]]" Selection.HomeKey Unit:=wdStory Selection.TypeText Text:="[[" ' ' Remove any null entries ' With Selection.Find .Text = "]" .Replacement.Text = "" .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = False .MatchWholeWord = False .MatchWildcards = False .MatchSoundsLike = False .MatchAllWordForms = False End With Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll End Sub
Fantastic. Works perfectly. You can delete all this if it's clogging up your talkpage. Widsith 12:20, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if it would be useful to others - but where to document it? SemperBlotto 13:20, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! And what we do now with the It past participle forms (feminine, f plural, m plural)? We simply put them in http://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Category:Italian_past_participles or it's better to create a category Category:Italian past participles forms like http://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/Category:Italian_adjective_forms? Last but not the least: how can I include a link here to a category without that http://en.. thing? thank you --Barmar 05:44, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Is this the correct Italian term used for "parrot"? If so, would you mind creating a nice entry for it? If not, would you mind correcting the translation on the page for parrot? --EncycloPetey 22:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jeff,
These entries really need a little more formatting. Compare these invented examples:
will foo
bar
No difference in the formatting makes these ambiguous - "foo" in the first is a reference to the word, not a usage of the word.
Could you italicise or embolden (my preferred method) the words linked to, please? Linking is not enough to distinguish reference from usage. Thanks. — Paul G 09:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
PS: I'm not sure whether duplicating the definition is a good idea - it's redundant and can lead to inconsistencies... a gloss is good however if there is more than one meaning of the word linked to.
{{apocopic form of}}
and you can edit it if you don't like the format - give me 5 mins. SemperBlotto 10:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
{{past participle of}}
- see voler SemperBlotto 10:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
A few other thoughts...
Why is the meaning of vertex for a polytopy not suitable for inclusion in the wiktionary? Taemyr ((Talk)) from Wikipedia. 85.166.73.139 12:44, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
None of these belong in a dictionary - but in some sort of encyclopedia (probably Wikipedia). SemperBlotto 14:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
That has been used by something else (Connel's) for a while, is it left over from the Webster process? ;-)
Maybe it could say "auto-generated from word" or something like that? Robert Ullmann 14:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
http://books.google.com/books?q=intrapreneurial&as_brr=0&hl=en --Connel MacKenzie 15:31, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Ehi! great job Jeff! I really hope that your Spaghetti Bot will become soon an effective member of the Italian crew. (Shhh.. after your 'population' (?) Italian will probably reach the second position here.. or even the first one) --Barmar 21:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
{{plural of}}
should only be used for nouns. Yes, that is what the text at the top of Category:Italian nouns says. I shall try to rectify that. Please correct any that you come across. SemperBlotto 14:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)What is the plan to keep track of pages that already exist? (How many of these might there be?) Either they should be carefully tracked, or something else run later to check that they all exist.
If you'd like to add the section to an existing page, it is pretty easy; under if page.exists() in pagefromfile, lose the existing code that checks the options (append, force, etc) and do:
old_text = page.get() if not re.search(r'==\s*Italian\s*==', old_text): contents = old_text + '\n\n' +contents + '\n{{rfc-auto}}\n' commenttext_add = commenttext + " - appended" wikipedia.output(u"Page %s already exists, adding to entry!"%title) page.put(contents, comment = commenttext_add, minorEdit = False) else: wikipedia.output(u"Page %s already exists with Italian section, not adding!"%title)
which will just add it on the end, AF will then sort the language section and iwikis correctly. Robert Ullmann 15:44, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jeff! A little thing: affogare takes the -care conjugation not the standard -are one (i.e. it is affogherei not affogerei). You're really doing a stunning job! /Italian will reach Japanese very soon :-) --Barmar 09:15, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
...welcome to our visitors from Tel Aviv, Israel"
LOL. That would probably be me :) Thanks! Shai 10:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Finger-wagging time again, I'm afraid...
"Foul-up" is not an alternative spelling of "foul up". The latter is a phrasal verb, and the former is the noun derived from it. Phrasal verbs are never hyphenated, and the nouns derived from them are either hyphenated (eg, "slip-up") or single words (eg, "slipup", US spelling). — Paul G 14:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
. . . I'm glad it wasn't a wrist-slapping. SemperBlotto 14:11, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
You are quite correct. However, the OED describes these creatures as "gastropod molluscs" and there are 578 Google book hits for the phrase. I shall leave it as it is though. Cheers. SemperBlotto 16:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
A mollusc can be "a member of the phylum Mollusca" - this definition would include then both. SemperBlotto 16:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I seem to have missed the discussion on this one. The verb sense (police attributing a verbal statement to a suspect) is well-known in the UK. This is from the OED -
trans. To attribute a damaging statement to (an accused or suspected person). Also const. up.
1963 Times 22 Feb. 6/5 Those chaps were about and they won't be able to verbal me. 1970 P. LAURIE Scotland Yard vi. 146 The aggravation of it. He verbals up my villain and then says he'll let him off. 1973 Courier-Mail (Brisbane) 17 Oct. 10/4 Finch has claimed that detectives ‘verballed’ himfabricated a confession to arrest him. 1981 C. ROSS Scaffold 145 ‘He's made no statement yet either.’ ‘But you verballed him?’.. The police officer said nothing.
Hence verballing vbl. n.
1973 Observer 11 Nov. 15/2 ‘Verballing’putting damaging remarks or ‘verbals’ into suspects' mouthshas existed as long as detectives have been dealing with criminals. 1977 ‘C. AIRD’ Parting Breath iv. 47 It wasn't, the policeman consoled himself, really and truly verballing. Verballing was putting words into a man's mouthand statement.
Am I allowed to add it? SemperBlotto 16:41, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, would you like a bot flag for this batch? Somebody is complaining (on IRC) that you're cluttering up RecentChanges. --Dvortygirl 16:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes please. Vote ended today - no objections. SemperBlotto 16:35, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
I think I've overwritten your edit... what did you change? — Paul G 08:43, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I removed a second definition (anon) that seemed to be incorrect. See the history. SemperBlotto 08:44, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello Semper, thanks for filling in those stubs for me, I was going to get round to them but this is a wiki and unexpected good things happen here! Anyway, I've also noticed that a lot of the chemistry terms were entered by yourself orginally. I just wanted to let you know, as if you hadn't guessed already, that I'm currently have a bash at tidying up category:Chemistry to make it slightly more useful (easier to browse) and to update the format standard of articles also. I have created a few context labels to help with this:
{{analytical chemistry}}
{{organic chemistry}}
{{organic compound}}
{{fatty acid}}
{{chemical compound}}
- Should this be {{inorganic compound}}
?
There are a few more but you'll probably come across them sooner or later.
They all display a tag (chemistry) or (organic chemistry) etc but correctly autocategorise.--Williamsayers79 21:39, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Do you mind explaining why you summarily deleted debouches? --Evrik 16:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
We don't do redirects here (much). Every word gets a definition. SemperBlotto 16:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
the een prime minister otter if 暉 社 moonset wat underline crack supremacy -en maturity deadstick landing cut in chockablock double play double switch near death experience brainfart when the chips are down 女大不中留 backlist 心靜自然涼 心静自然凉 out of sight, out of mind there's no accounting for taste absence makes the heart grow fonder Microsoft moment 鷸蚌相爭,漁人得利 病急乱投医 病急亂投醫 hattrick 斩草不除根,春风吹又生 斬草不除根,春風吹又生 习惯成自然 習慣成自然 话不投机半句多 話不投機半句多 树倒猢狲散 樹倒猢猻散 love is blind Tappee higher being When you're up to your neck in alligators, it's easy to forget that the initial objective was to drain the swamp
come ir moonrise SHTF deployment homotypic 夕陽西下 夕阳西下 上來 上来 仇人相見,分外眼紅 仇人相见,分外眼红 先礼后兵 先禮後兵 起來 beggars can't be choosers 起来 khí-lâi qǐlái qilai shànglái shanglai
Roman numeral 鹬蚌相争,渔人得利 glamour waking blumpkin 언제 röijeli -lla hit one's stride
I think that there is no need to put links into any of these tables, the pages that are at the other ends of these links will almost invariably read. ""The particular part of ]"" or words to that effect. It would be a very time consuming process to add these links, because of the WT:AL policy of using diatrical marks in the page, but not the page names. Each link would have to be of the form ]. I think it is more important to create templates for the other conjugations - and to start adding this template to articles. Conrad.Irwin 21:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
In taxonomic nomenclature one has to be careful of labelling a term as a "synonym". That means something very specific in nomenclature, namely that the circumscription of membership is the same and the taxon names are of equal rank. As a result Cyanobacteria can be a synonym of Cyanophyta, because they are both of divisional/phylum rank. Cyanobacteria cannot be a synonym of Cyanophyceae because the latter is a class-rank taxon that was included within the Cyanophyta. --EncycloPetey 07:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
A very evocative definition.
I assume that this comes from the German (Bavarian?) Schuhplattler, rather than directly from the German for "shoe" and "to slap", in which case the etymology needs to point this out. — Paul G 07:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
I'll leave that to you - my German is minimal. SemperBlotto 07:33, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
hi ... by default the pybot framework uses a put_throttle of 10 seconds (put_throttle = 10 in user_config.py). this is for the 'pedia itself, with 91 (last I looked) servers; it limits edits to 6/minute
I was going to suggest you change it to 20 or so, the wikt has much less server capacity, and you are causing periodic browser timeouts and sometimes DB sync lockouts, where no-one can edit until it catches up. But I also see you are running two at once?! Presumably because one was too slow? ;-) The total edit rate shouldn't exceed 3/minute or so. (And page creates have more overhead, a simple bot replace operation can go somewhat faster.) Robert Ullmann 11:12, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
OK - I did ask, and Connel said two at once was probably OK - I'll slow down now. SemperBlotto 11:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
I've changed the throttle to 15. SemperBlotto 11:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! I've seen you have wikified lavabo but actually this word has 2 plurals: lavabo and lavabi. Maybe some day we would need a thing somewhat like that: {{en-noun|pl=bureaux|pl2=bureaus}}. (That said, I'm very curious to see the Italian position in next statistics update ;-) Buona domenica --Barmar 17:53, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Would you like to edit the page (without templates) so as to explain the difference. Is there a religious use of this word? SemperBlotto 18:41, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much, I had never seen that template, bad luck! Sorry for the non-standard edits. Haragg 19:59, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Gerard mentioned on IRC last night that it.wikt: is restructuring their content. I don't read Italian; could you read their equivalent of WT:BP, and let me know what is going on there? Are they removing ====Translations==== sections, but keeping foreign entries? Are they removing foreign entries, but keeping ===Translations==== sections? Or are they planning to remove both foreign entries and ====Translations==== sections? Or is it all just a nasty rumor? --Connel MacKenzie 15:30, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
removed, no plural form for sotto Robert Ullmann 12:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
other minor note: I found one entry where the bot had appended text with a {{see}}
template at the top; this doesn't end up in the right place, should be rechecked Robert Ullmann 13:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jeff. I've just discovered this sooooo-nice thing viola da gamba -> {{it-noun| |f|] da ]|viole da gamba}} instead of the usual manual thing '''] ] ]''' (''plural'' ] etc etc. Is this - as it seems - a correct template? If so, is it possible to automatically add it to all the Italian compound nouns? If is not, I'm voluntereeng to manually add it (I've created so many nouns without using that useful template..). Cheers. --Barmar 06:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
The template doc should probably point out that form of usage explicitly. (Else someone might make some useful enhancement, but break that usage).
One think I like about this project is that the Italian lemmata are getting systematically reviewed. Robert Ullmann 13:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
param = param.strip()
But wikipedia.page strips out spaces and underscores: t = re.sub('+', ' ', t).strip()
so you don't have to worry about it, unless you are using the title somewhere else. Robert Ullmann 13:50, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Tonight, or tomorrow? :-) --Connel MacKenzie 07:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
My plan was to stop bot activities when we get close, so that a human can get the credit. SemperBlotto 08:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm curious by what process you deleted Winchell? Did you read the talk page first? Thanks. Mathiastck 18:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
You do remember that Wiktionary:Wanted entries is there just to teast NEWBIES into making their first edit, right? --Connel MacKenzie 08:55, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's some new verbs for the Bot: centrare, cooperare (I've added the It entry to the Spanish ones). Cheers.--Barmar 05:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! Can you please fix this? tipographica ->tipografica tipographiche ->tipografiche tipographici->tipografici (Too long for me not being an admin :-) Thank u --Barmar 08:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
The OED and Brewer's both say it's for 2 people, not 2 couples. Widsith 08:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
OK. Grove (online) says "It was popular as a social dance for individual couples at balls, as a virtuoso theatre dance and, in simplified form for several couples at once, as one of the many kinds of contredanse." SemperBlotto 10:49, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
hey! if you go to złoty youll se a declension table, my question is, do these kinds of tables belong inside of article, or should they be rather somewhere else? Frizabela 10:30, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
That's fine. The words in the table should be wikified though. See any Italian verb (e.g. mangiare) for an example. SemperBlotto 10:32, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
That is correct. Also can you proof read my entries and leave comments for me as Im new at this, only if you have time. Thankyou Enlil Ninlil 21:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Why did you undo the RFV? It is an uncommon (technically incorrect) acronym, it should be NSAPA. See (e.g.) rfc:1707. Robert Ullmann 14:12, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
You appear to have reverted 26 separate edits that I made. I don't doubt you had a good reason, but it would be nice if you shared it. Meddlin' Pedant 19:25, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the cleanup.--SarekOfVulcan 12:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's something needing to be conjugated: Verbs: eradicare Adjectives: semplificato Adj + Noun: sloveno, prematuro, preventivo, mafioso Buona domenica! --Barmar 09:58, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
OK. There is a restriction with the bot - if a word already exists with an Italian section, then it leaves it alone. Otherwise the programming would be rather tricky. So if a noun already exists, it won't add an adjective etc. These need to be done by a human. SemperBlotto 10:32, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Re better method: maybe a SemperBlottoBot tag? BTW here's the list: Nouns: genocidio carneficina congresso moratoria laurea laureando acclamazione giacca distanza gesto melodia espresso; Adjectives: breve regio abusivo; Verbs laureare, Past participles: espresso. Cheers. --Barmar 13:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I checked up on Wiktionary's articles on pope and Pope respectively before entering that phrase, and according to our articles it is supposed to be pope, with a minuscule "p". __meco 09:01, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
The table has a number of red links for Italian names of European languages. Thought you might be interested in creating the articles. --EncycloPetey 07:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
OK - I'll have a look at it soon (but see also too many irons in the fire!) SemperBlotto 08:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
No, I'm not using a bot software--these entries are so simple that it takes only seconds to complete. I'll do as you asked.--Jyril 09:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
I want to make it clear that I did not mean anything personal about you. I hope there is no misunderstanding about that. See you around! Dart evader 16:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm keen on making a bot that does exactly what your bot does, but for French verbs/nouns instead of Italian ones. I know little about bots, but wonder if you could point me in the right direction for creating my Keenebot - do I need specialist software, and could I steal your Semperblottobot code and fiddle with it to make it French? --Keene 18:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Jeff, since you are sharing code (a very good thing) would you please change in your bot:
contents = old_text + '\n\n' +contents + '\n{{rfc-auto}}\n'
to
contents = old_text + '\n\n----\n' + contents + '\n{{rfc-auto}}\n'
This puts the horizontal rule in between. Which means that AutoFormat won't keep saying "fixed ----'s", and if the languages happen to be in order, will just say "rm tag" (e.g. "all okay"), while doing the minor spacing. Just a bit more aesthetic. Robert Ullmann 15:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Actually, it does have a plural form. If you google "cacciaviti" you'll find 143,000 results – is that not enough? --Emc2 09:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Well, not according to both my paper dictionaries and to a good online one. I shall ask User:Barmar - she is Italian. SemperBlotto 09:57, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The problem is that the part of the word being pluralized is "screw" - so the proposed plural sounds like "screwsdriver" SemperBlotto 10:05, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Those are spambots - originally designed for forums, they don't work quite right on wiki's.. (eg: no links).. they are probably open proxies or zombies. I suggest blocking for 3-6 months, anon-only, account creation allowed. fwiw.. --Versageek 14:20, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
OK. I was wondering if we could automagically prevent the creation of such entries. Who would know? SemperBlotto 14:22, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
I've downloaded all that Python software, had a bit of a read and a bit of a play, but still have absolutely no idea what I'm doing. Could you send that bot code to me, as I've now set up a Wiktionary email. Maybe things will click. And perhaps a step-by-step how-to would be nice. Sorry for giving you more things to worry about! --Keene 14:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
The easiest thing is for you to send me a Wiki email, then I can reply with attachments - I don't think you can add attachments to a Wiki email. I will include instructions in the email. Cheers. SemperBlotto 14:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Also - you need to get a vote started - it takes a while to get permission. SemperBlotto 14:49, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
And an error message comes up:
What are string indices, and how does one make them integers? --Keenesbot 11:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Please unblock this account. I've placed contact info on its page and left a request in Beer parlour. --Volkov 21:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Say SB, are you interested in putting your thoughts in on this proposal to (slightly) expand inclusion of brand names? Cheers! bd2412 T 19:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I cannot see any justification for your deletion of this talk page. It was a thoughtful and legitimate question. DAVilla 19:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
AFAIK, the term for the hypothetical acid H2FeO4 is ferric acid, and its salts are called ferrates. What is the term for the hypothetical H2FeO2? And what for its salts, such as Na2FeO2? Dart evader 13:26, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes, if it existed it would be ferrous acid. However, as far as I can tell, all attempts to make it yield the isomeric ferrous hydroxide Fe(OH)2. The anion and its salts are ferrites, and sodium ferrite Na2FeO2 is commercially available (though I haven't investigated its use). SemperBlotto 16:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi
Some time ago you added a definition of "candid" as being "without prejudice". I know dictionary.com has this definition but in practice I have never seen the word candid used in this way. Can you give an example of how candid is used in this way without the alternative and more usual interpretation of being open or frank?--Hauskalainen 08:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Don't cha' just love edit conflicts? The dollar amount is relevant, though - I'm not sure how to tag it as specific to US Federal/IRS accounting nor how to indicate the date (range) for which it applies. Heck, I don't even know for certain where to check the accuracy of it. As I recall, it wasn't too long ago that limit was $2,000.00. --Connel MacKenzie 18:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
OK. I've added a more general definition first. SemperBlotto 19:01, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
This page doesn't explain to me why the page was removed, can you explain to me why it was removed? TheBlazikenMaster 17:33, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
If you haven't seen this comment, you may be flattered by it (since you've worked so hard on our Italian verbs). --EncycloPetey 11:11, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I saw the comment (I can concur that it.wiktionary is not really very good). However, the sono verb is an old one, not in the current format (I may get around to fixing these some time). SemperBlotto 11:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! I’ve just returned from a week of holidays, sorry I forgot to post a message before leaving. Any news in Wiktionary apart from the grrreat stats? --Barmar 16:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
I wondered where you were. In September we (my wife and I) are off to Le Marche for a few days - we haven't neen to Italy for a few years now, and not in that region for quite a while. Not much other news - just plodding along. SemperBlotto 16:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
You used their to mean his / her when you wrote the definition for the nounal sense of buttonholing. Though this is not laid down in policy or anything, I would strongly advise against using the third-person plural pronouns as epicene singulars — it’s horribly ungrammatical. Thanks. † Raifʻhār Doremítzwr 17:12, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the welcome. I wasn't aware of the policy against the use of templates in the translation table. Thanks for letting me know. --Saforrest 16:00, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Not idiomatic, bad capitalization, definition copy/pasted from external source. SemperBlotto 07:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer. It doesn't seem in the spirit of wiki to delete an entry bc it's not perfect. It's a start. Entry was lightly edited from the external source. "Not idiomatic"? "Backstop technology" is increasingly used in climate policy discussions. Not used much in ordinary conversation, to be sure, but ... I'm left scratching my head. What's the value in excluding it from the dictionary?
I followed koran, which redirects to Qur'an in redirecting quranic and koranic to qur'anic. It seems that choosing some of these to be redirects and others not may not be uniform. Could I have discovered an old error in koran or perhaps not comprehended your intent? Thecurran 18:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
None of those should be redirects. Fixed. SemperBlotto 18:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
. Thecurran 09:05, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
(thread copied from my talk page)
Was that a mistake? We already have syntactic sugar (lowercase). SemperBlotto 16:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Which I normally don't do, but have a few. They're tagged for speedy deletion ...
brainbench Ancient rome doctors Geroge bernad shaw jllyz32248391350
Thanks much. Neskaya 07:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
{{speedy}}
then somebody will review and probably delete them soon. You don't need to do anything else SemperBlotto 07:18, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Sorry, but why delete the page? And even without RFV, at that. Although it does not appear to be in wide use, the term definitely exists and needs defining. The explanation of its origin and usage was quite interesting for me. Dart evader 17:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, thanks for your one line observation on WT:BP. You'll note that only generated more kilobytes of the same. :-( Anyhow, that should have been Wiktionary:Please don't feed the trolls / WT:TROLL, right? :-) --Connel MacKenzie 16:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, we also need keep one's head down ;=( (and I'm too old to do smilies) SemperBlotto 16:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
I wasn't sure whether "the sun" (when it has no caps but the meaning of the Sun) should be placed with proper nouns or nouns. Could you still have a look at the pages moon, sun and earth and give me some further advice please. Thank you. :) Rhanyeia 18:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I was too hasty. When people say, e.g. "Look at the moon" they mean "Look at the Moon" - there are very many Google book hits for this usage - we should allow it. SemperBlotto 18:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I know you've recently turned down the CheckUser nomination, but I was wondering if you would be more receptive to one of bureaucrat. I don't think you would be tempted to ignore any policies with regard to user flags, and even so there aren't legal privacy implications. Given that universal login is about to kick in, it may be wise to have more people on deck in the coming weeks, especially ones who are very active. I would only want to know if you think you could be diplomatic with those who run bots, which are very useful here since a lot of work that is done can be paralleled on so many pages. DAVilla 23:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
You deleted presto chango (which I had not made). Why? See User:Msh210/Sandbox. I plan to re-create presto chango and presto change-o with cites if the only reason you deleted the former was because you thought it was unattestable. Please let me know (here) why you deleted it, so I can know whether I should refrain from re-creating it.—msh210 00:39, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
You are right, of course. I saw a prefix under mal and wondered why there was not one under mis ;-) 85.22.17.225 09:26, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, about the 'mata hari' page, yes it is spelt in Malay as matahari. I am still checking whether the Malayalam word for 'sun' is really not 'mata hari', but there isnt any online Malayalam-English dictionary. But that's not what you were asking, is it? yes matahari is how it is written in Malay. So I would appreciate that to be changed. Thanks SemperBlotto :)
--Danazach 14:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I just re-created this page that you apparently eliminated on 10 April. I don't know why it was eliminated. I trust my present entry is OK. If not, please could you let me know on my talk page? Thanks. -- Algrif 09:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
I believe you were right to remove the vandlism on the Filipina page but I disagree with entirely deleting the page. It seems to be the appropriate term for females ethnically attached to the Philippines. Please, explain your reasoning. Thecurran 02:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jeff, I am little concerned about definitions as the one on this page. In fact I think it is less than informative, does not reflect the meaning of the word as it is actually used but rather what a certain user thinks it should mean. I think your original one was much better. (Brya tried to do the same thing on nl.wikti and after some sleuthing at en.wikpedia about this (banned-suckpuppeteer) user, I gave her a first and final warning no to try and redefine words according to what she thinks they should mean. She got very angry and was clearly not going to change her ways so I blocked her. Swift and hard I know but we have very few users at nl. and cannot afford long legal procedures or users like this. Thought you should know nl:gebruiker:Jcwf
Hi,
Thanks for adding the sense I requested to make — but are you sure that's the right definition? It doesn't seem to fit the Numb3rs quote, and I'm not sure that it really fits the Ocean's Twelve quote, either.
Of course, if I could figure out a definition that did fit, I'd have added it myself, rather than just requesting it, so …
—RuakhTALK 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, it was my understanding of the intended meaning. I'll see if I can come up with something better - in the meantime you are welcome to improve it. SemperBlotto 21:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, yhank u for warning me:) I'ce corrected it:) Sinek 16:33, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Did you not notice I cleaned up I like pie while you were patrolling? --Connel MacKenzie 17:39, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! First of all, as you can see I'm finally back (the situation has improved a bit.. crossing fingers ;-). Regarding sopraffare, it has not a regular -are conjugation, but follows the fare pattern (io sopraffaccio or sopraffò, tu sopraffai, egli sopraffa.. past participle sopraffatto etc. etc). Last but not the least I've answered to your questions on my talk page. Buona domenica. --Barmar 07:29, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Could you tell me who is the birds expert here? I notice that golden oriole is not included, but oriole is. The golden oriole is the basic bird (Oriolus oriolus) but there is a long list of varieties. I would like to know the policy about these kind of entries before I start making a heap of entries that later will just be deleted ;-) -- Algrif 10:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't think we have a bird expert. I shall create golden oriole and, if you agree with that entry, you could use it as a base, or improve it first. Cheers SemperBlotto 10:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
p.s. Wikipedia capitalizes it, but I think that is probably wrong. SemperBlotto 10:43, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Thx a mil. Looks good. Birders tend to capitalise all birds, but I think that if blackbird (for instance) is not capitalised, then none of them should be. Furthermore, we don't capitalise any animals, so why should birds be different? Cheers. -- Algrif 10:57, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Salve! Following your example, I've just created an Italian sandbox where I've started copying the zillions of tiny pieces of paper where I've been writing Italian missing words until now. These words come from the news, books, newspapers and magazines and all of them are pretty common. Please feel free to make them blue whenever you want, they're all but my pet words, on the contrary I'd be glad if they become blue soon. --Barmar 13:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
OK - And you can do the same to any of mine that I have difficulty with! SemperBlotto 13:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
What did you use to find all of those derived terms for -eous? Nadando 18:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
The online version of the OED using *eous as search word. SemperBlotto 18:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for correcting my errors. Sorry, just a little bit inattentive. I'll pay more attention. Sentinella 13:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm positive it is spelled dogfight, if you'd like to contact me I am JetLover on Wikipedia. The wikipedia article is spelled dogfight, every spelling I've seen of it is spelled dogfight. 67.150.170.194 21:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
No, not you. Should slatternliness be listed as a derived term of slattern? –Wouldn’t it be better listed as a derived term of slatternly? Or should it be listed at both entries? Opinions please… † Raifʻhār Doremítzwr 13:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Why did you remove my contribution:
Its true, isn't it? --124.188.230.12 08:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Please unblock asap as the bot got the flag now --Volkov 06:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Not comparative? More tuppenny-ha'penny = cheaper. (Clumsy, and probably difficult to find examples. But even so....) (BTW tuppenny... 2xp and 2xn ;-)) -- Algrif 14:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I saw you deleted lombardo twice in 2006. I created again that page, but I think the content is very different from what you deleted. Is there anything wrong with it? Thank you for the attention! Sentinella 22:00, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
That's fine. By the way - don't bother creating plurals for nouns or adjectives. We have a bot that does it automatically (if the base form uses the standard templates). SemperBlotto 22:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
How come you have blocked a lot of people (with no contribs) with the reason "stupidity?" What were they doing? Cheers, JetLover 22:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Why is Incase an obsolete of "Enclose" and not "Encase"? Encase is quite obviously the closer of the two.
{{alternative spelling of}}
enclose. By the way "quite obviously" doesn't mean anything - we need proper evidence. SemperBlotto 21:24, 14 September 2007 (UTC)you deleted imbetween? what kind of dialect elitism is this? every southerner uses this word.75.57.98.66 21:15, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about that.I could have sworn last time I checked, it was in header. Circeus 15:04, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Back again ... maybe we should range-block Tiscali again for a while? Robert Ullmann 09:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm in two minds about him. These days I only block him when he changes account name even though the previous one has not been blocked - and give the reason as "multiple account abuse" rather than WF. The problem is that even though 99% of his edits are fine (even useful), they ALL have to be checked, and he can never go into our whitelist. I'll go along with whatever you think best. SemperBlotto 09:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Can you take a look at cum. It doesn't actually say 'with' though the etymology points to the Latin section which does. RJFJR 16:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
OK, I've expanded it a bit. SemperBlotto 16:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering how to structure the noun form entries. Every noun forms has 3 properties which differ from other forms; "2 numbers, 4 cases and (indefinite)/Template:def", and all those properties give different meanings in the English translations (except perhaps the Lua error: Parameter 1 is required. and Template:acc). Now I would like to ask you what would be the best way to set this up.
'''manns''' {{m}} # a ], the {{context|indef|lang=und}} the genitive singular of '']'' (meaning "]")
'''manns''' {{m}} # the {{context|indef|lang=und}} the genitive singular of '']'' (meaning "]"), meaning " a ]"
What do you think? --BiT 18:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Good morning, and here, have some extra buttons. The good news is, it isn't really that much extra. You'll see a couple new links in Special pages. They're pretty self-explanatory. The one thing you have to look out for is that while you can easily make a user into a sysop, you cannot simply do the reverse. It takes a steward or developer to do that. You can also rename a user. Do read WT:MV before doing so, and watch for impersonators, etc. --Dvortygirl 04:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Given edits like this, you seem to have an opinion about whether certain types of information belongs in non-lemma entries. You may want to express your opinion at WT:BP#Noting lemma forms in WT:ELE. Rod (A. Smith) 01:07, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
While randomly checking the work my bot is doing adding iwikis, I noted a large number of your entries getting +it edits; I assumed that was because you had created them since RobotGMwikt stopped running (yes), and that of course the it.wikt already had them (no, it turns out). In fact, the it.wikt is importing your work (and Barmar's), creating lots of new enties; (that still need work to complete translating them). Did you know about this? (;-) Robert Ullmann 17:13, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes. It seems to be User:Filnik who is importing the words. Some other people are making a half-hearted attempt to convert them to it.Wiktionary format, but nobody is converting English translations into Italian definitions. Most of the needed templates are missing. But what the Italian wiktionary team do is no real concern of mine - I am not a contributor there. (The motive is probably to bump up the abysmally small number of Italian words there.) SemperBlotto 08:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
This needs both an adjective and a noun definition - currently one with a definition of the other. SemperBlotto 15:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
How does it look now? RJFJR 16:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry. I keep on expecting the templates to do more than they do. I've been spoiled by the power of the WP templates. On the one hand, Wiktionary has more rules and structure; but on the other hand the templates don't seem to help with/exploit the structure. I'm still learning Wiktionary and unlearning WP. DCDuring 09:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
nell is most certainly nell' as I have converted apostrophes to space before counting. There are also still some typos which are typically due to faulty OCR software, the most common example being i instead of l as ii, as well as proper noun and single letters coming from formating instructions. Matthias Buchmeier 08:48, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
How are translinguals to be handled? DCDuring 19:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I have entered a entry for Nortel, to complete the bottom links to the other sister sites on the Nortal Portal on Wikipedia Why did you delete it without asking to on a talk page?
68.49.138.47 07:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
It is just the name of a company - this is a dictionary. SemperBlotto 08:49, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
It follows the format of the other companies: IBM, Microsoft, Windows, Macintosh, Apple Computer, Apple Computers, Kellogg Company, Benedict Arnold company, LEGO, DuPont, Netscape, Linux...... Jack12 08:55, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
If you want to delete this entry just because it is a company then you need to delete ALL other companies from this system, otherwise explain what I have done incorrect and I will gladly add, change, edit or explain it. Jack12 08:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC) Jack12 09:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Google, British East India Company, Rice Krispies, GCI, JCB, DJ Company, xerox, AOL, CRO, CBC, NBC, SABC, PLC, Hyundai, Samsung, Pepsi, KIA, AT&T, NEC, SAS, Mobil, MSNBC, General Mills, AMD, SGK, IRT, DIS, Sony, Lamborghini, Daewoo, Jell-O, ABC, etc, etc, etc,....
69.140.189.5 11:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
You should have explained that before you blocked me. 68.49.138.28 11:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
As you pointed out All the information on the IBM page is just about a company. As stated here we are deleting company entries. 69.140.184.148 19:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The Netscape page is identical to what was on the Nortel page that was deleted. 69.140.184.148 19:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Why delete this instead of having it properly defined? sewnmouthsecret 21:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Capitalisation was an abberation.
Yes, the definition was of a noun - corrected. Could be said to be attributive but if someone looked it up and just saw the noun sense it wouldn't help much. Not quite sure how to format it (related term?) as attributive.
On a general point, I note that you have mentioned 'pudding-basin'. How did you come to a decision to use a hyphenated form? This has often puzzled me. I added the entry to satisfy a link from 'pudding', so I didn't actually make a specific decision myself. House 16:35, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
What was wrong with the changes? They reflect consensus over at Wikipedia? -- 98.193.26.175 20:45, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, it looked wrong to me. How can the Eastern Orthodox Church be part of the Catholic Church? Isn't that difference what the Great Schism was all about? SemperBlotto 21:09, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm the one whom you just sent a message to (wasnt logged on). Sorry about the spelling, I thought I knew the words. The GCC are the "Gulf Cooperation Council", I should have checked whether GCC might mean another thing in English before just typing it, anyway, I corrected the satement.
--Maha Odeh 10:38, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for "making" me fix single-point urban interchange. Laziness (to write a proper definition) is not a good thing. :-)
—msh210℠ 16:52, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I put the collective noun for ravens as an alternate definition of "storytelling." I'm not necessarily refuting your decision to delete my entry, but please explain. (Note that Wikipedia has the definition of "storytelling" that I added in its article on collective nouns.) --Reallybored999 18:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Zero hits for the phrase "storytelling of ravens" in Google books. Can you find an example of use? SemperBlotto 18:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC) - I notice that you have not cited your source in w:List of collective nouns for birds
I found some blog hits here and here, though I am unsure if this is durably archived.
I found other odd sites here and here. If you let me know if these will work, I will add cites. sewnmouthsecret 19:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I did not cite the source, but nonetheless, the page "w:List of collective nouns for birds" does confirm what i had written. I intend to change it back and i would appreciate your not reverting it as this definition, however obscure, is legitimate.--Reallybored999 22:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Dear SemperBlotto, alias Sir Geoffrey Jeffery Knaggs, do you realize you are currently holding this Wiki-world record by becoming the most edited Wiktionarian in the world? You had recently surpassed the 100 000 edit mark! My goodness gracious! Just wanted to say that particularly with the title of "Sir" on behalf of your honour and respect for such achievement! Congrats! :) On Wheezier Plot of the Malay Wiktionary11:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, i just created Prekariat, a neologism from sociology thats been used frequently in german media recently. Its related to Proletariat, but not quite the same. Have you heard of precariat being used as en english translation? Can you clarify? See: babelfish, .
From our discussion on IRC:
<mutante> do you understand Prekariat or is the term not used in english yet ... <Connel> I suppose we could /invent/ a neologism for it in English * Connel thinks it might be invented as "precariousization" in GenAm <linkyW> http://en.wiktionary.orghttps://dictious.com/en/precariousization <Connel> "precariousizationist"? <Connel> "precariat" just doesn't have a memorable ring to it
Also, in that context, are you sure lumpenproletariat is English and not German but starting with capital L? Greetings, Mutante 08:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jeff,
Could you put some quotes in "snarfle", please? It's just that this isn't in either of my dictionaries (OED 2nd ed, Chambers 1998) and Wiktionary is the only dictionary on onelook that features the word. Is it an Americanised form of "snuffle", I wonder? — Paul G 08:58, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Paul - This is what the online OED has -
1. intr. To sniff or snort; to make any of various snuffling and slobbering noises like those of an animal eating greedily. Hence: to eat greedily (also fig.).
1985 Playboy Apr. 176/2 A man called Danny, a grinning, shambling Irishman..who snarfled and hing-honged incomprehensibly. 1989 R. HANSEN Nebraska Stories 86 The kid snarfled at his hot dogs. 1996 Star Tribune (Minneapolis) (Nexis) 12 Feb. 10A, New Mexican ranchers who overgraze public lands is no more seemly than Californians snarfling at the Defense Department trough. 2004 E. FREDERICKS Fatal Distraction 180 Norm was snarfling through donut boxes.
2. trans. To consume or use rapidly or in large amounts; to eat greedily; to grab or snatch. Also with up. Cf. SNARF v.
1990 J. MORROW Only Begotten Daughter (1991) II. x. 174 Where was Phoebe now? Hollywood, Julie speculated, nailing down her dreams of cinéma-vérité eroticism, snarfling up lines of cocaine from her desk on the paramount lot. 1990 Phoenix (Arizona) New Times (Nexis) 27 June 99 Let me tell you, these boys laugh a lot when not snarfling all-you-can-eat grub. 1999 Antigonish Rev. Winter 68 Fringe benefits include free rejects, which you'd snarfle without compunction, knowing they'd otherwise just be used to..clean screens.
I'll try to find some independent quotes. SemperBlotto 10:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
The register of the translation is wrong: it means "queer", "faggot" (as it is derogatory) rather than just "homosexual" (which is neutral). I'll change this. — Paul G 17:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Is there an Italian descendant of Latin quaerō? I can find Spanish, Portuguese, and Romanian descendants, but not French or Italian, possibly because of a more significant spelling change. --EncycloPetey 22:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
what does it mean
What does what mean? SemperBlotto 10:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Usernames do not have to mean anything. However, you could always look up semper and blotto. SemperBlotto 11:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Some part of your setup generates uses of {mf}, which we are changing to {m|f} (if you haven't looked at WT:GP, this handles a number of the combinations, e.g. {{m|f|n|p}}
produces m pl or f pl or n pl) Could you change it? Don't worry about the existing ones, they will all get fixed. Robert Ullmann 12:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I was checking on AF's change to the template in this entry, and grinned when I saw the inflection line :-) Robert Ullmann 15:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Is it OK if I put in a correct entry? Algrif 13:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes please. I was going to ask for it to be wikified - but it got cleared so I just deleted it. SemperBlotto 13:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Why did you delete Get on up???
No definition. SemperBlotto 16:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Do you have a definition, do you know the meaning of "Get on UP", can you tell me it??
Thank you very much friend, mmm but there is a problem.... can you add more details, can you add more details about definition of Get on up??? Please, then i'm going to add more songs where we find the sentente Get on up, ok???? Let me know. Thank you again.
Maybe it means to make love????? Do you confirm it??? Let me know.
Thanks so much for adding definitions for a number of words I added {{rfdef}}
to. But why did you delete Cardinal Nephew?—msh210℠ 20:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I think your description of the meaning of infall is way too specific. Seems to me it's anything extraterrestrial that falls due to gravity.
Also, whilst I agree it can be a noun, surely it can also be a verb.
I've posted this to people at Wordweb: Surely this is a verb as much as it is a noun - like rain - 'It's going to rain'(verb), 'there's going to be rain'(noun). 'The broken satellite began to infall'(verb), 'the broken satellite became infall'(noun). Regards, Mannafredo 08:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I have expanded the definition of the noun, and added the adjective infalling. Usage as a verb seems to be reasonable, but can you find actual usage? SemperBlotto 09:13, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
The votes to grant administrator privileges to Goldenrowley, RJFJR, and Jyril have all passed, if you could do the honors. :-)
Thanks,
—RuakhTALK 02:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
{{welcomesysop}}
template) SemperBlotto 08:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Wiktionary:Changing_username#Edmundkh_-.3E_EdmundEzekielMahmudIsa. Thanks a lot! --Edmund the King of the Woods! 09:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Why do you call yourself "Edmund the King of the Woods!"? It looks like you are just trying to confuse people. Denied SemperBlotto 09:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
That's just my signature. But now I revert back. Okay? Thanks! --Edmundkh 19:10, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes. Keep an eye. Thanks for correcting Büchner funnel Algrif 16:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I've had someone ask me about the Christmas contest this year. Will you be running it? I've an idea related to the Easter contest from earlier this year, but it could just as easily wait for Easter. --EncycloPetey 20:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Is the best way to place plant genera and species in italics, and families, orders etc. not in italics? The sources I use vary with this. Best regards Rhanyeia♥♫ 18:20, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but i think my add about vista(ویستا) in persian, must be here! why? If somebody want to know what the sound "vista" means in another languages, he/she can search vista in wiktionary. Did you know meaning of vista in persian, befor? I thonk now! I believe, sound of a word is not least important than writing a word! — This unsigned comment was added by Ghafarkhani (talk • contribs) at 12:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC).
That was fun. The Sloane Ranger etymology(?) has the derivation. When a word is of such recent manufacture, it almost doesn't seem right to use the linguistic notion of "derived". I was thinking of adding some "proper adjectives", like Chaucerian and Runyonesque, both of which have some currency. We do have a few other secular ones, like Shakespearean, Elizabethan, Georgian or Georgean, Victorian, Edwardian. Any others come to mind? Interesting how proper nouns become ordinary words over time ("raglan", "pants", "cashmere"). DCDuring 18:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
"The OED lists humourous as an alternative spelling used especially in the 1700s to 1900s. That's good enough for me. SemperBlotto 17:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)"
Ok, so firstly I don't have access to a copy of the oed to hand at the moment, but their site lists no results for "humourously":
http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50109260?nearest_to=humourously
Secondly, should a spelling that MAY have been used in the 18th/19th centuries be listed as a modern british English spelling? If archaic spellings should be listed, where would the cut-off point be? Would you put middle or even old english words in a modern english dictionary?
— This unsigned comment was added by 137.222.215.52 (talk) at 17:18, 17 November 2007 (UTC).
{{dated}}
, {{archaic}}
, and {{obsolete}}
to indicate varying degrees of such disuse. Rod (A. Smith) 22:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)No-one has a riderect page. It redirects to no one. Expand Noöne if you want, but please do not delete it. — This unsigned comment was added by 71.237.244.5 (talk) at 19:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC).
What is the Italian translation for Central Europe? Would you please add the translation and create the entry? The word Central Europe (and its translations in the languages of Central Europe and neighboring areas) is one of my pet projects. Thanks. --EncycloPetey 18:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
PS - There are several users up for admin on WT:VOTE, if you care to vote. --EncycloPetey 18:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
We need a bureaucrat to act on this. (Presumably one not beset with silly American holidays this week.) Thanks. --EncycloPetey 05:46, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Google it. You'll find it at least merits a common misspelling. M-W even lists it as a correct word. - Algrif 17:09, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Since the rest of the definitions were in English and linked to English pages, I assumed that this was canon. This is my first attempt at Wiki editing, so I'm sorry if I've misstepped. MidnightGeranium 18:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
It's been marked as passed but no one's flipped the switch; would you be willing to make it happen? I guess DVG is still unavailable. Thanks! ArielGlenn 01:55, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi- My first entry was deleted.. I posted an information request at the information desk... please explain. Please google it also. --96.232.188.7 19:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I shouldn't have edit warring. Can you unblock my IP? I know that I didn't get discussion the right way, can you also please tell me the proper way to give a discussion more attention?
I know I did a huge mistake, you will probably not forgive me, I won't edit warring again. I was wondering, could you unblock my IP so I can pay for my mistakes? I promise, I will be more careful next time. I'm truly sorry about the edit warring. And I find a week being too harsh personally. I don't know if you will forgive me, but it's worth a try. TheBlazikenMaster 18:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I am an admin at Wikipedia. A user with an account there has requested help with the block of his ip account on Wiktionary. We explained to him that we have no control over procedures here. He has expressed his desire to apologize and seeks unblocking. I am relaying the text he posted and take no position whatever with respect to the propriety of the block. His message is "I wanna apologize to SemperBlotto to the way I spoke to him/her. On Nevermind, I really wanna discuss. All I was trying to do was getting discussion, I wanna apologize for the edit warring. But I get no chance since I'm blocked. Can someone please unblock me, I promise I will calm down. But please get my IP there unblocked somehow, I need another chance, this was just a mistake I did."--71.247.35.138 18:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm Alberto (Almit39) Marini and my not updated homepage is http://www.mi.imati.cnr.it/~alberto. In these days I'm adding to Wiktionary and Wikizionario (secondarily) lexical materials concerning geometry and math in English and Italian. My present objeactive is a good set of terminological items to offer to Italian speaking students of a new engineering course in San Marino (I'll teach geometry). In my opinion additions to en.wiktionary presently are more convenient than additions to poor it.wiktionary. My knowledge of English language isn't very good (as you can see), but I can manage a pretty extended set of math related terms: hence now I'm working on quantity rather than on quality, relying on indulgent collaboration of English speaking users. In general I'm strongly interested in Indices and your message brought me to discover Index:Italian and Index:All languages. Thanks. And best wishes. Almit39 18:51, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I am perplexed because the definitions were blocked on grounds of "silliness". Doesn't every protologism look silly to someone? I think the proposed listings were less silly than the next one, "Coyotus interruptus" and tried harder than 90% of all listings on the paqe to live up to the banner at the top, "Help Wiktionary change the world!" (Just a few inches up your talk page, someone referred to November 22 as a "silly American holiday". Can't win!)
1. Perhaps there was a dissonance between the silliness of the words themselves and the seriousness (I thought) of the program detailed throughout the definitions. Why not try restoring them and see if someone responds productively-- isn't that the reason for protologisms in the first place?
2. A bigger objection might be the length of the definitions which threatened to crawl beyond the parameters of a dictionary listing. Do you have time to take another look and try to edit them down yourself?
3. Concerning the proposed ideas--
a. John Pfeiffer in The Emergence of Man (about 1965) reports an observation of chimpanzees entering a large tree as a troup, breaking off many dead branches, and throwing them down. (Trying to make the tree safe for inexperienced youngsters who might trust the wrong branch to swing on?)
b. Anne Russon (1997) observed orangutans at Camp Leakey, Borneo, figuring out the lock mechanism on the food storage shed door, sucking on hoses humans had used to siphon gasoline, and attempting other human technological stuff.
c. Birute Galdikas (2003) reported orangutans in trees, reaching down to shake loose tall "snags" (sorry for the pun-- it means tall dead stumps) and throwing them down in an attempt to scare away intruding humans.
d. The challenge is to train apes, who can access tall trees more efficiently than humans, to recognize the distinction between live and dead branches, and reward them in some way which motivates them to do the work. A robot or human-computer-robot-combination which can do this might now be the proverbial 18 months away. In my judgment all four ape species have brain and hand capacity to operate an anvil pruner etc.
e. Clearing hazardous biofuels is no small business (or minor edit). The 2003 fires in southern California cost 6 billion dollars; the recent round may come close, they are still counting. It is worth spending big money to devise a solution, however "silly".
3. Maybe someone would object to the possible political reference in "bushfire" in which case edit it out. However, in the Chicago Tribune in July 2001 there was a wirephoto of the Chief Executive with a hatchet in his hand and the headline, "Bush Takes a Whack at Forest Fires". The President has repeatedly spoken out forcefully about this problem. My concern is that he is proposing to give it to the big established profit-driven companies who might use it as a pretext to kill lots of big healthy trees which are an easy source of trade lumber.
4. I am sorry that a dispute would have to the be means of my encountering someone named Knaggs. Growing up in Cincinnati, my next(?)-door neighbor was Mr. Nelson S. "Ted" Knaggs Sr. (1907-92) who l;ived at 3130 Ferguson Road. Ted was the Vice President of Hilton Davis Chemical Corp. and published a book, Adventures in Man's First Plastic: the Romance of Natural Waxes, about his travels around the world (including Nepal as early as 1946) in pursuit of raw materials his firm could use. I mowed his lawn many times. He had a greenish 2-ft.-high cement cast of a Peruvian moon god on his property and several genuine Japanese stone lanterns which he had flown to the U.S. His youngest son Dave was a little older than me.
I haven't read all that (life's too short). But yes, I shouldn't have blocked you - this list is, after all, meant to be somewhere where people can put silly words (I don't think it is ever cleaned out). Very interesting about your neighbour - I have been trying to find a copy of his book for some time, but it doesn't seem to be available in the UK (outside of the British Library). SemperBlotto 20:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Personally I would RFD Incredible Hulk before Hulk, but I don't feel inclined to do so. If you object to the latter, perhaps you would be more persuaded to RFD the former? DAVilla 02:44, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, SemperBlotto. Actually I ran the bot for a single article to check if it's doing ok. I intended to ask for permission afterwards. But by blocking my bot and including the IP address block too, you prevented me from editing pages with my normal user account on that IP and thus I couldn't ask for anything... I mean, shouldn't good faith be assumed? Am I supposed to be a vandal (remember you also explicitly blocked my normal user account by blocking the IP too) just because I tried a bot run against a single article while monitoring it? It really cuts the joy of contributing here.
Don't get me wrong. I can understand the bot account block. Just I don't understand why blocking the IP address too. Basically I was kicked out without doing any harm.
I'll start the bot voting now. Cheers, Malafaya 20:46, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
While long ago authorized, this was not flagged as a number of people liked seeing it in RC (then). There are now a number of request to flag it. (Particularly I think because it is munching its way through all the Han entries at present ;-) So may it have its flag now? Tx, Robert Ullmann 14:51, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Concerning week, what is the meaning of "Saturday week"? As an American born when I was, I have never heard it: I've only seen it in (I think British) books. I've always assumed it was an adverb; hence, my addition of it as that POS. If it's not, then what is it? (And if it's not, then we need a usage note ad loc. indicating what the phrase "Saturday week" means.)—msh210℠ 20:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Some cake has been eaten on your behalf. :)
--Dvortygirl 06:13, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Shurely shome mishtake? Widsith 12:03, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Could you use your bot to add entries for some regular Italian verbal (and adjectival) suffixes? I imagine it wouldn't be too much to change the and add the {DEFAULTSORT} and change the category to Category:Italian suffixes. That would save me a lot of time too. --Keene 14:07, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi again. Before I put my foot in it (easily done !); are these two terms identical? Can I make a copy paste entry? Or is there a subtle difference that my basic knowledge of chemistry is missing? Ciao - Algrif 18:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi again. Well, I ummed and ahhed about this too. But finally, looking at quotes such as the one I used; to wit
FYI: template {{inv}}
is a number template, so you can do {{m|inv}}: (removed) and so on Robert Ullmann 10:31, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Dear SemperBlotto, it seems you deleted the page on zooagglutinin due to a copyviolation. The information was available on Transwiki:Zoo- Could you help me with your decision? Thanks. Phantommine 11:52, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't know, the transwiki web page and on google both have it simply as "a plant found growing on beaches or strandlines". Phantommine 17:19, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
okie-dokie! Phantommine 17:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
How long have you blocked this user for? I've cc'd you my reply to his vituperative email. — Paul G 20:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
User:Matthias Buchmeier, User:Opiaterein, User:Algrif, and shortly User:Arne List. Thanks, and Merry Christmas! DAVilla 16:27, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm trying to gauge the value of various things I can do for Wiktionary. Among the things I've been doing is using pos templates and infl to do the things they do, including standardizing the appearance of entries, adding pos categories, doing inflections on the assumption that these were all good things. Are they? The reason I am asking you is a recent change you made on quid. You added the missing verb PoS. I noted that you did not use either the infl or en-verb template. I am interested in understanding why you did not. Are they bad in some way that I don't understand? Is it your expectation or hope that there will be an automated process that will clean up regularize the entries? Do you add categories manually? Do you not like the inflection line clutter? Please understand that I am in no way objecting to whatever you choose to do (within policy, of course). I only wanted to take advantage of this concrete case to check my own assumptions and priorities. Thanks in advance. DCDuring 16:34, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
This entry was listed on the Category:Requests for translation table cleanup list that's why I modified it. I noticed that you reverted my changes and simplified this entry which is great. In the new version, the translation table does not have a gloss. If I understand the rules, this is accepted in Wiktionary if there is only one sense. However, I still would like to add the gloss because one never knows when a new sense will be added. Would you agree with this practice? Panda10 23:29, 28 December 2007 (UTC)